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Arda Xi

00:01

:86511 MT?

alexanderpas

:86513 multi-thread

FallenAngelEyes

think I've finally managed to fix my sleep sched, night all!

tzenes

04:50

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Q: Anyone know the tools/process used by Starcraft 2 commentators to create the screen recordings of games?

I tried FRAPS which makes great (albeit HUGE) avi files however there tends to be random times (ever 3-6 minutes or so) that the audio will skip/blup or the whole video will freeze for a second or two during playback. I was thinking about maybe going into windowed mode and using CamStudio but it ...

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Q: Best way to post a Starcraft 2 replay to youtube?

Since the starcraft2 replays are in their own replay format, but I think the SC 2 replays are pretty well watched on youtube, whats the best way using a camtasia like software to record the entire game?

starcraft-2 replay

Which is the dup?

alexanderpas

technically not duplicate, low voted question states he can't use high voted questions answer.

altrough we might want to merge those later on.

McKay

05:05

Those seem quite different to me.

Maybe not "quite"

The high voted one just wants to post a replay. The low voted one, wants to add audio

Do we merge if one question is later obsoleted by a different question?

alexanderpas

we close the obsoleted question as duplicate of the better question.

McKay

even though it didn't exist at the time? And I don't know if I like the term better, as the more specific question can cover more detail particular to the specific case?

"How do I flirt with asian girls", then later "how do I flirt with girls?"

alexanderpas

in the end, it all depends on the question, and the answers

If the "how do I flirt with girls?" question had an answer including details for asian girls, the "how do I flirt with asian girls?" would be duplicate.

McKay

yeah. That makes sense.

Jarrod Dixon

05:25

yeah, those two questions aren't really duplicates - hopefully Shogun will clarify his rig for more input on his issues with FRAPS

Jeff Atwood

07:01

I am going to finally play some Just Cause 2. I have no time for anything any more..

Ivo Flipse

08:16

:86262 ask @MarcGravell

Ivo Flipse

08:38

hola this question got some attention!

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Q: What exactly is a "cheese" in Starcraft 2?

I seem to see commentators mention "cheese" with regards to Starcraft 2, but I'm not quite sure what they mean. If a particular build/tactic is called a "cheese", does that mean it is a considered to be uncounterable? Or does it just mean that it is considered to be a tactic that is "too easy"...

starcraft-2 terminology cheese-build

Arda Xi

10:54

@IvoFlipse Hmm, that's a good one, I think it depends on the game

Ivo Flipse

what's a good one @ArdaXi? :)

Arda Xi

your question

Ivo Flipse

ahh, well my cousin actually wanted to know it

but I might just buy a bunch of second hand games while im in the US myself

Arda Xi

as the question is console specific, might help to add 360 and ps3 tags

Ivo Flipse

there you go :)

well I was planning on asking it for the Xbox

but then I thought, might as well ask it for the PS3 too

Arda Xi

10:59

answered for both

Ivo Flipse

and since I don't give a shit about the wii, I don't care :P

Arda Xi

apparently the PS3 isn't region-locked, but for the 360 it depends on the game

bottom-line, you should be alright with US games on a PAL PS3, but the other way around might cause problems

Ivo Flipse

yeah, so it seems, but your wiki list doens't seem 100% up to date

Arda Xi

best I could find

Ivo Flipse

no problem :)

Arda Xi

11:01

you can just buy ones with a question mark and fill in the list a bit ;-)

or just stick to PS3 games

Ivo Flipse

well the PS3 did have a bunch of great games the past Christmas season

but going back to Xbox gaming when Kinect comes out

and I get the Rock Band 3 guitar

I have all my instruments for Guitar Hero on the Xbox

Arda Xi

Kinect kinda reminds me of that PlayToy technology back for the PS2

Ivo Flipse

so not going to buy it for the PS3

Eyetoy?

Arda Xi

heh

Ivo Flipse

oh man, this is soooo much better

Arda Xi

11:06

That's it

same thing, just more modern :P

Ivo Flipse

it's too bad they crippled the camera, but I know how expensive the research is

Arda Xi

meh, I'll just wait till they port Kinect to the computer, which they will

Microsoft sucks at research

Ivo Flipse

no, it's not, the Eyetoy didn't do 3D measurements

it doesn't suck at research, just getting it to market in a coherent fashion

and some of their tech is too far ahead of its time

Arda Xi

they use gigantic amounts of money to buy very promising projects and then they make an amazingly crippled project out of it

Just look at what the Photo Tourism project could've been and how much of a failure Photosynth is

Ivo Flipse

they launched tablets way too early, when all you had were resistive screens

and the internal competition kills new products

I'm sure they're using Photosynth for their version of Streetview

and even a bit in Kinect

but 3D kinematics is soooo damn hard

Arda Xi

11:08

still not even touching its potential

Ivo Flipse

and the Ubisoft fitness game looks awesome :P

Arda Xi

that Photo Tourism project could've been used to create full 3D scenes from mere photographs

but no, they make a 2.5D panorama

Laser scanners are incredibly expensive, the tools Microsoft could've provided would've essentially made those obsolete

Ivo Flipse

lasers aren't that expensive, every CD-player has one

Arda Xi

laser scanners

they're a device you hook up to your computer, you put an object in and it creates a 3D model

Ivo Flipse

a laser scanner, as in those camera's is just a laser and a camera (or more of them) that scan it

Arda Xi

11:11

they're still around $1500 though

Ivo Flipse

you mean like these: shoemaster.co.uk/solutions/foot_scanner.html

I'm getting one of those end of the month

well there's a couple of things that matter

Arda Xi

I mean like these

Ivo Flipse

how fast should it measure? if it's static, who cares

Arda Xi

nextengine.com

Ivo Flipse

then there's how many camera's and lasers do you want, do they interfere etc?

and where can or do you want to measure, if it can be in a closed box, the measurement will be a lot better

Arda Xi

11:14

my point is, the technology Microsoft uses for Photosynth would've made those scanners obsolete

I'm not complaining about the cost of 3D scanners

Ivo Flipse

that wouldn't have been possible, I'm not sure if regular pictures would hold enough info

Arda Xi

enough of them do

look at the point cloud

Ivo Flipse

there's different tech, where you project lines on an item, just with regular light and measure that

Arda Xi

sure, it wouldn't have been as insanely detailed as a 3D scanner but it's a lot easier to work with

Ivo Flipse

the picture lacks calibration, so it's insanely hard to derive from the picture whether it's a straight line, or actually the shape of an object

but I agree, they algorithms would help a lot, even with 3d scanners like the one you linked

Arda Xi

11:17

photosynth is capable of creating a series of points out of a photographed object

those series of points can be converted into a 3D mesh which can then be refined by a modeler

Ivo Flipse

I've tried the tech demo a couple of years back yeah

Arda Xi

but it's a lot easier than starting from scratch

Ivo Flipse

but the 'advantage' is that first off you have A LOT of pictures from different angles

and they are often 'known' buildings

Arda Xi

it's not hard to create a lot of pictures though

time-consuming, but not hard

Ivo Flipse

well off course my problem is: I want to use them to measure humans

and either the camera's aren't high def + fast enough for semi-static measurements

or not suited by a mile when they're moving

Arda Xi

11:19

you won't find a lot of 3D scanners capable of doing that either though

Ivo Flipse

voila :P

currently our 'best' bet is using infrared cameras and markers

but buying about 12 of those, to measure walking for 2m costs more than 200.000€

but if you like toys, check this thing: zsolutions.eu.com/z650_zcorp_3d_printer.htm

Arda Xi

your best bet if you can manage to keep the subject still for a bit is to make a ragdoll out of them and put them in a suit

3D printers are awesome

Ivo Flipse

I'm in this project: afootprint.eu

Arda Xi

Ivo Flipse

where we use 3d printers to print insoles (you put in your shoe)

Arda Xi

11:23

ah, right

Ivo Flipse

and I need the foot's geometry, but I need to know how that changes during a step

Arda Xi

Point cloud this is what I mean, extract the point-cloud, connect the dots, get 3D model of scene

Ivo Flipse

and I need to know how the foot-ankle moves

yeah I got you, but the accuracy there is way to low for my purpose :)

Arda Xi

that's a bit more complicated than average needs, yes

Ivo Flipse

though the camera you showed has some nice ideas

using multiple lasers is a good idea

Arda Xi

11:24

I was referring to for example making a lot of photos of a building and making maps for games etc

wait.. it is possible

Ivo Flipse

either you can scan multiple lines at a time or you can reprocess the data from each line going over the entire object and interpolate between them

Arda Xi

SynthExport

Ivo Flipse

that seems interesting, I'm going to have some fun with point clouds once I finish reading this damn Python tutorial

Arda Xi

still on that are you?

Ivo Flipse

taking me forever, because it's way more fun to chat :P

how old were you again btw?

Arda Xi

11:27

15

Ivo Flipse

and what type of school are you doing?

Arda Xi

VWO, just finished 3 years of bi-lingual education

Ivo Flipse

ah then you're already close to have to do a project for your graduation don't you?

Arda Xi

I wouldn't know, really

probably :)

Ivo Flipse

profielwerkstuk, darn I couldn't find the new

well I guess you already have enough topics to do it about by now :P

FallenAngelEyes

11:31

Seeing as Arda already answered your question, I'll elaborate a little. You will be fine playing US PS3 games on your Euro PS3 because there is no region locking, but you'll be generally unable to use regionlocked Xbox360 games.

Arda Xi

should be doing that in about 3 years

FallenAngelEyes

NTSC -> PAL doesn't make -so- much of a difference now

Arda Xi

:87224 except for the caveat I mentioned

FallenAngelEyes

The Ghostbusters game for Xbox was multi-region and I bought that from a store here in the NL

Ivo Flipse

thanks @FallenAngelEyes feel free to comment that to @ArdaXi's answer, so he can add it

FallenAngelEyes

11:32

It's NTSC but runs fine on our Euro 360

holy shit

Ivo Flipse

if it's 1080p, it shouldn't really matter now should it?

Arda Xi

:87228 As stated on the wiki :)

FallenAngelEyes

the person in that Joystiq article is a friend of mine XD

Jem Alexander

Ivo Flipse

brb going to make some salad, so bbl

FallenAngelEyes

how weird

eat well!

I hate how expensive games here in Europe are

And they stay expensive so long after release

Arda Xi

11:37

I just discovered that Fallout 3 was on sale for a whopping €25 euros now

I'd have expected the normal price to be €25 by now

FallenAngelEyes

GotY edition?

Arda Xi

I think that's the only one Steam sells

FallenAngelEyes

I asked for the GotY edition from my parents for my bday cuz it was cheaper in the states

Arda Xi

I have a friend in the UK buy my Steam games

FallenAngelEyes

Don't blame you

Arda Xi

11:39

Fallout 3 is €18 there...

FallenAngelEyes

it pisses me off that they're the same monetary price

$49.99 or 49.99 euro ><

Arda Xi

that's a 28% discount

Ivo Flipse

yup, I feel your pain

I buy them second hand

or not at all

Arda Xi

pain? I only pay the UK price :)

FallenAngelEyes

I buy second hand as well a lot

Ivo Flipse

11:40

only bought a couple games at release

FallenAngelEyes

found a store here that actually sells them decently

59.99 euro for brand new games, sometimes 65...

Arda Xi

I can't even buy any games in stores

well, I can since I know the manager of one of the stores well, but I can't legally

FallenAngelEyes

It is very frustrating that it's so hard here to find stuff like peripherals cheaply

Arda Xi

:87264 I buy most of the things I need from Hong Kong

FallenAngelEyes

older Guitar Hero/Rock Band stuff in the US is very cheap cuz like Gamestop and whatnot often have old extras

But it took me forever to find Rock Band 2 here, just the disc :(

I bought my Dragon Age: Origins collector's edition from Hong Kong

Arda Xi

11:43

I buy most of my stuff here

dealextreme.com/default.dx/r.95195179

dirt cheap

FallenAngelEyes

How is shipping/import cost?

Arda Xi

nothing

FallenAngelEyes

I am always wary about shipping stuff directly here from stores/websites cuz of potential import cost ><

Arda Xi

they send by airmail, I've never had any tariffs or anything

FallenAngelEyes

Oooh, interesting. Thanks much :D

Arda Xi

11:45

and I have bought a lot of stuff there

FallenAngelEyes

I used to be able to buy Steam stuff in dollars

because I have a US bank account still

but at some point they must have changed it to be IP based or something cuz suddenly one day everything was in Euro

Arda Xi

you can get around that though

FallenAngelEyes

My XBLA account is US based cuz my Windows Live account uses a US address, so luckily I can pay for my 360 DLC in dollars

But I can't use Netflix T_T

Arda Xi

store.steampowered.com/?cc=us

FallenAngelEyes

oh sweet

Arda Xi

11:49

mind that you'll still have to use a US address and everything

all the US exclusives are annoying me lately

I want Google Voice :(

FallenAngelEyes

Yeah, I can use my bank account, woo.

Arda Xi

enjoys his Spotify music

FallenAngelEyes

what's google voice do?

Arda Xi

your own personal PBX

Google Voice

Google Voice is a telecommunications service by Google launched on March 11, 2009. An erroneously filed FCC report from October 2009 indicated that Google Voice had some 1.4 million users, 570,000 of which used the service 7 days a week. This report has been confirmed by Google. The service provides a US phone number, chosen by the user from available numbers in selected area codes, free of charge to each user account. Inbound calls to this number are forwarded to other phone numbers of the subscriber. Outbound calls may be placed to domestic and international destinations by dialing the...

FallenAngelEyes

huh, funky

Arda Xi

11:53

basically it means that no matter how often you change your actual number, you can keep giving everyone the same google voice number

and make that ring whatever phone/voicemail you want depending on who it is or what time it is

FallenAngelEyes

I'm not much of a phone user anyway

my mobile phone is an old Siemens with an orange and black screen :P

Ivo Flipse

I want Google Voice too, but guess we'll have to be patient...

as with Hulu and Netflix, Pandora and what not

Arda Xi

as I spend most of my time during the week out of the house being bored (I still go to school after all) my phone is everything to me

Ivo Flipse

it's hilarious how a lot of programmers stick with regular phones

FallenAngelEyes

yeah, cellphones weren't as big when I was in high school

Ivo Flipse

11:58

just as if they don't want anymore tech stuff in their life

FallenAngelEyes

well, they were getting there, but I still didn't use them then either

Arda Xi

:87313 I need my phone to test my apps on

FallenAngelEyes

My phone can receive calls and make calls, that's all I care about :P

Ivo Flipse

need? what you need it for?

Arda Xi

mine has that functionality buried deep within the menu somewhere

:87321 emulator just doesn't cut it, I need to test the actual user experience

Ivo Flipse

12:00

I just want it for the internet

Arda Xi

I doubt a lot of people are going to use my app through the emulator

Ivo Flipse

you write your own apps @ArdaXi?

Arda Xi

yeah

I don't exactly like Java but it'll have to do

FallenAngelEyes

someone I know said that they had the ability to make voice to voice contact in real time with no lag to an iPhone friend of theirs and asked if the person's iPhone could do that. The guy spent 10 minutes looking for an app before he got the joke :P

Ivo Flipse

Android or iOS?

Arda Xi

12:01

Android, you know I have a Hero right :P

plus, I can't afford a Mac

Ivo Flipse

oh right, I forgot :$

FroydVillain rocks, not 100% stabil, but that's probably my own mistake

Arda Xi

I don't want a Mac and Objective-C is horrible

which sucks because our current iOS developer sucks :/

Ivo Flipse

our current? where do you work then?

for that guy with the upload service?

Arda Xi

not so much work as contribute

but yeah

Ivo Flipse

I guess it doesn't pay well :(

Arda Xi

12:04

as far as I know it makes a decent living from ads, so I'm not worried

not that I do it for the money anyway

Ivo Flipse

what's your app then?

Arda Xi

going to be working on a mobile app for AnyHub

which luckily grants a lot more freedom on Android than it does on iOS

Ivo Flipse

ah right, how much does the ads make you then?

else I might invest some time in it :P

Arda Xi

again, not me, I don't handle the ads on the main site

though, apparently it's like $30 a week

Ivo Flipse

hmm not really enough to make a living from :P

nice for someone at your age though :)

better than working at McDonalds

Arda Xi

12:10

exactly

I wonder what age Google would want me to be

before they take me on

:D

Ivo Flipse

well, depends on what function you want

since you Google NL only has marketing jobs

and to get a working permit in the US, I guess you'll have to be 18

Arda Xi

there's a london office

I'm not relocating to the US D:

(no offence)

Ivo Flipse

oh right, Jon Skeets place :P

FallenAngelEyes

lol

Arda Xi

My English is better than my American anyway..

Ivo Flipse

12:12

well I would recommend finishing high school

FallenAngelEyes

crisps and lifts and lorries

Arda Xi

was planning on doing that

Ivo Flipse

and go study Computer Science or something with algorithms

though really, I would go do a bachelor and then move to the university

Arda Xi

I to this day have NO idea what to study

Ivo Flipse

it will cost you one year more, but you have way more spare time

Arda Xi

12:13

or where, for that matter

Ivo Flipse

which you could/should spend on programming or experimenting

Arda Xi

I was planning on going to a university

Ivo Flipse

Belgium's dirty cheap, Holland is easier

Arda Xi

I just need to decide on which

I was looking at Groningen to begin with..

Ivo Flipse

is that closer or you just think it's a better university?

Arda Xi

12:14

I live in the randstad so that's definitely not close

but they're very broad

Ivo Flipse

I would go to Delft or the VU

though I'd say Delft is a much better place for tech students

Arda Xi

yeah, I was thinking that too

but the VU is much closer :)

Ivo Flipse

it doesn't have to be expensive to live in Delft

and there are enough student homes too

FallenAngelEyes

there's a jillion student places here

Ivo Flipse

I'd let distance be the last deciding factor really

because you'll be staying there for 4/5 years minimum

you'd better pick a place you want to be each day for that time

FallenAngelEyes

12:18

a friend of mine lived in Hellevoetsluis and went to university of Amsterdam

Arda Xi

of course

FallenAngelEyes

every day, 2.5 hour commute

Arda Xi

I know people in the US who take a plane to work every day

Ivo Flipse

yup, I traveled from Arnhem to The Hague and Amsterdam for 5 years

FallenAngelEyes

yuck

I never realized before I moved here that colleges in the NL don't have dorms

Ivo Flipse

12:20

which was why I would recommend the Bachelor degree route ;-)

FallenAngelEyes

and that dorm life was a very US thing

Ivo Flipse

they have dorms in Delft, on campus even

but it's somewhat restricted to foreign students

but really, if you know you want to go to a city, subscribe there for a room, a year ahead

and you'll be fine

and the further you life away the better :P

FallenAngelEyes

haha

Ivo Flipse

but if you did VWO, than doing a HBO is super easy, so you'll have loads of spare time to mess around

also it's more practical, so the chances are you'll actually be doing something there

FallenAngelEyes

why are the Dutch inhabitants the only ones active here on the weekend >_>

Arda Xi

12:22

what's the advantage of that though? I mean, when you're getting a university degree after that

Ivo Flipse

then you can go the university afterwards and get a Msc in 1,5 years or so

we have no social life @FallenAngelEyes :P

FallenAngelEyes

haha

Arda Xi

I really shouldn't be here all day at my age..

FallenAngelEyes

...it's true...

Ivo Flipse

the fact that you'll hardly run into speedbumps along the way @ArdaXi

Im typing over my Python book, guess I'm not that concentrated ;)

FallenAngelEyes

12:23

lol

I'm gonna afk a while to play some Rock Band

later :)

Ivo Flipse

bye :)

Arda Xi

cya

FallenAngelEyes

ping me if needed for a close vote or something

Ivo Flipse

but trust me @ArdaXi the difference between university and college is mostly in the thickness of the books you have to read :P

and there's more choice at a bachelor level

both in where and in what you want

Arda Xi

err.. in dutch terms, what's college then?

Ivo Flipse

12:25

HBO

university-college if you like

or whatever they would call it

heej @TomWij are you lost? ;)

thanks for spotting that awesome Gnoupi question on Super User

Arda Xi

:87447 Why do you always ask the newcomers if they're lost? :P

Ivo Flipse

because I normally don't see those newcomers here

and since the SO team likes to think of us as communities, those newcomers are intruders ;-)

but luckily @ArdaXi you still have some time to decide where you want to go and what to do ;-)

now I know how it feels to envy the young :P

Arda Xi

aye

I gotta focus on getting through these 3 years

Ivo Flipse

work hard at school, have more fun outside ;)

Arda Xi

hmm.. off-topic, but this is why I wouldn't want a biology SE:

Ivo Flipse

12:29

worked for all my years

Arda Xi

Ivo Flipse

hehe, I would have to check her out first

upload us a pic and I might know more

Arda Xi

read it fully

especially the last sentence

faith in mankind lost

Ivo Flipse

is it this version: answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100813152046AAJITQ0

Arda Xi

same thing, yeah

Ivo Flipse

12:32

I can make him bleed there if he wants to :P

Interesting question, though a little subjective, since what is right?

Arda Xi

that, and it's not a real question

what's 'sensitivity'

Ivo Flipse

that's just a setting in most games

Arda Xi

what does it do

sensitivity can mean many things

Ivo Flipse

Mouse (computing)

In computing, a mouse is a pointing device that functions by detecting two-dimensional motion relative to its supporting surface. Physically, a mouse consists of an object held under one of the user's hands, with one or more buttons. (Although traditionally a button is typically round or square, modern mice have spring-loaded regions of their top surface that operate switches when pressed down lightly.) It sometimes features other elements, such as "wheels", which allow the user to perform various system-dependent operations, or extra buttons or features that can add more control or dime...

Arda Xi

that's mouse sensitivity

sensitivity != mouse sensitivity

Ivo Flipse

12:46

left a comment for him

Arda Xi

hmm.. NASA made some kind of game I somehow completely missed

I should try this :)

Arda Xi

14:38

might as well let my melancholy dwarf drown himself..

Arda Xi

15:46

pff, my fortress is prosperous, my food stores are overfilled, I got litres of booze but no migrants

I feel very rejected.. for two seasons already

Ivo Flipse

awh, that might be due your cheating :P

muhaha!

Arda Xi

:(

I'm not cheating

looks twice to make sure tzenes isn't here

I've only got 33 dorfs, will be 32 in a couple months

ah well, after more than a year my fortress isn't flooded, starved, attacked or otherwise affected by Fun, so I guess that's good

Stefano Borini

wu :)

Stefano Borini

just checking things

Ivo Flipse

hello @StefanoBorini :)

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