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C. Ross

7:11 PM

Why are they leaving the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny question open for so long?

is three weeks really necessary?

Feeds

7:30 PM

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Q: Determining if a game is CPU- or GPU-limited

What is a reliable, but not too time-consuming way to determine if a certain game is limited by the graphics card or by the processor speed? I have some preconceptions about whether I'm mostly GPU or CPU limited, but I'd like too verify if I'm right about that. I have some ideas how I would go a...

alexanderpas

@GnomeSlice enough for the bounty?

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A: What's the most efficient usage of the golden mushroom in Mario Kart 64?

Okay, I've did some testing, and, it really doesn't matter much how you use it, as using a "pumping motion" (leaving a slight delay between each usage) or "pressing it as fast as you can" give both a direct boost to maximum speed, the item has a fixed usage time, and you can't double up on the bo...

spam?

-1

A: The disappearance of the joystick

I own multiple arcade sticks. This is VERY possible in today's day and age. Look at Quasimoto and xgaming

Macha

7:47 PM

Hey, is that DF game totally dead? Because I was thinking of taking a go.

alexanderpas

@WillfulWizard give me a question with a bounty, and I go that extra mile! (as @badp knows :D)

sjohnston

I find this game rec question very exciting. It finally feels like the various scattered arguments and debates have been condensed down into a useful form. Like we might actually accomplish some kind of useful decision making.

Even if it is an imperfect process that we've never tried before.

alexanderpas

@Macha I get the feeling we left DF a bit in favor of MC, also the chat moves may have influenced it. (not to mention the average gamers attention-span)

Macha

@alexanderpas Yeah, that's what I was thought

WillfulWizard

Yes, it feels like we're debating in real terms rather than might bes, and voting on what simple plan should be enacted. I'm not sure I've explained it correctly but there's definitely something different about this discussion, feels like it might actually produce results.

sjohnston

7:56 PM

@alexanderpas It is interesting, I've noticed those game fads among the more frequent users

Macha

I'm recording my own DF game atm, and I need to edit and voiceover that video so I don't want to play too fast or I'd have too much work to do to ever do it, so I was looking for another one to play in the meantime :P

sjohnston

Those game fads sort of serve as my game rec. Once a game I've never heard of reaches a certain mass of questions on the site, I decide to check it out

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Q: Does the Venture actually exist?

In Wing Commander 1, the Claw Marks (the official manual, written in-character) mentions a Terran corvette class called Venture. In the years I've played WC1, I have never encountered one in a single mission and it has thus become a great mystery to me and the people I played it with, whether the...

flight-simulation

Macha

Chat seems to be moving to Die2Nite from Minecraft a bit tbh, but I don't see the point of Die2Nite. Just another of several generic browser MMOs.

sjohnston

I found (and enjoyed) dwarf fortress, minecraft and nethack in this way

yeah, d2n is the latest craze :)

alexanderpas

7:58 PM

@Macha /me agrees minecraft is a perm for me.

Macha

I didn't bother with nethack, as I was only just after getting Minecraft at that point :P

hheimbuerger

Hi! Could someone please remove the 'flight-sim' tag from gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/12012/… and tag it "wing-commander wing-commander-1"?

Macha

Yeah, I'm going back to DF instead, for now. Still playing minecraft, but I played loads of it this week with my brother and I need some variety.

sjohnston

@hheimbuerger sure

@everyone when it comes to series tags, do we typically do X, or X-series?

alexanderpas

@Macha if you can find the latest save, i bet someway mods can re-activate that room ;)

hheimbuerger

8:01 PM

Thanks.

Macha

@alexanderpas Not much point if no one else is still interested in DF though, which is why I asked first.

alexanderpas

@sjohnston X-series and I don't believe the series tag is needed here :D

FallenAngelEyes

Would wing-commander-series even fit?

sjohnston

yeah, upon reading the question, I agree

alexanderpas

@Macha you might re-spark intrest :D (and it's always fun to read)

@FallenAngelEyes it would fit, it's only 21

sjohnston

8:04 PM

@Macha d2n is zombie survival farmville. What's not to like?

Macha

The farmville part :P

hheimbuerger

The question is very WC1-specific. I do like the "wing-commander" tag however because it allows you to search for all questions around the series (I'd say most people who have played WC1 have also played WC2 and SM1 and SM2 and SO1, etc.) and you add it to your favourite tags.

sjohnston

I'm sure we're not done with Minecraft. Interest peaks again whenever there is a big update, and now that Notch has help and a real development process, updates are likely to come out faster.

alexanderpas

@hheimbuerger no need for that, you can always add [wing-commander] and [wing-commander-*]

Ivo Flipse

though Minecraft get's waaaaaaaaaaay more questions on their own forums, too bad we can't steal some of it's official thunder :P

sjohnston

8:06 PM

I have started to get away from Minecraft simply because when I do play, I get sucked in for waaaaay too long. As fun as it is, it absorbs way too much of my time

alexanderpas

@sjohnston farmville... do I need to say more.

FallenAngelEyes

There doesn't seem to be a general consensus about adding series or not adding it to our tagging. For example, we have [sonic-the-hedgehog] as the series label but not [sonic-the-hedgehog-series], yet we have [fallout-series] and [mass-effect-series]

sjohnston

@alexanderpas :) I understand that sentiment. I think there is potential for interesting dynamics around that sort of real-time gameplay though. d2n also has some interesting group dynamics that are only just beginning to be explored

hheimbuerger

@alexanderpas: That was my suggestion, wasn't it? @sjohnston only added wing-commander, though. :)

sjohnston

I question how useful the series tag is, when the question pertains only to the one game. However, if someone feels it worthwhile, go ahead and add the series tag too.

alexanderpas

8:12 PM

@FallenAngelEyes those are questions that ask about the series, and not a specific game or the relation between a specific game and the series. (at least in the [fallout-series] case)

but let me search meta.

sjohnston

has chat always shown combined rep? I never noticed my number was different here than gaming...

Macha

Since it merged into chat.se

alexanderpas

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Q: How should sequels / game series be tagged?

If there are multiple games in a series that share a common name, how should these be tagged? Take How do I lower my weapon in Halo 3? for example. Should this be tagged: halo-3 only, as it refers only to Halo 3? halo and halo-3, to allow all Halo questions to be found under one tag? (With ha...

discussion tagging

sjohnston

@alexanderpas I prefer your answer to the accepted in this case

due to the common issue of first games being the same as series

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Q: Where do you ask your question when you don’t know where to ask?

With the myriad sites of the Stack Exchange network, it will become increasingly likely that many questions will end up in the wrong place and, depending, be ignored or moved. If it's moved, that's good, at least. But if you have a question where you're not sure which field would suit best (if a...

discussion questions stackexchange stackexchange-2.0 move-to-other-site

hheimbuerger

8:19 PM

You can always do the 'artificial' xxx-1.

badp

@hheimbuerger We've decided to add no -1 for first games in the series and instead add -series for games about the series.

So you'd have portal, portal-2 and portal-series, e.g.

The problem is that for new games you can't know if there will ever be a -2.

hheimbuerger

Way too long, considering the tag length limits, though. (But I know your answer to that...)

sjohnston

we've asked for longer limits too, but that was declined

alexanderpas

and allow you to search for [*-series] too :D

hheimbuerger

Alternative solution: allow searching for e.g. "[wing-commander*]". (Yes, not gonna happen either.)

alexanderpas

8:21 PM

@hheimbuerger too bad * means one or more, so you need to search for [wing-commande*]

badp

well, you can search for "wing commander" (no quotes)

hheimbuerger

@badp yeah okay, I see the problem with retroactive -1s

@badp Yes, try doing that. The results are horrible.

badp

I guess the problem is there aren't any posts with both words :)

Try searching for "need for speed" instead.

@alexanderpas hm, doesn't * match the empty string?

alexanderpas

wait, is wildcard tag search broken?

badp

@alexanderpas I'm not sure it ever worked tbh

hheimbuerger

8:24 PM

Wow, you're right, looks like it works.

badp

You can search tags on the Tags page though.

hheimbuerger

Ah no, it doesn't. It just gives really misleading results.

badp

@hheimbuerger If you're @-replying me, no it doesn't

however try http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/need-for-speed~

sjohnston

Man, OnLive is good to their beta users. I got a free mini-console, two free games, and now I get to try out the new subscription service (sans the subscription fee).

badp

Nevermind the NFS tags are a mess currently.

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Q: How to tag the Need for Speed games?

We currently have: nfsmw ×6 need-for-speed-world ×3 need-for-speed-hp ×2 need-for-speed-mw ×2 I think this makes it self evident that we should rather tag our games: nfs-most-wanted nfs-world nfs-hot-pursuit Thoughts?

discussion tagging

hheimbuerger

8:26 PM

@badp Interesting, what do you enter to get that?

Or just URL-tweaking?

badp

@hheimbuerger I have `need-for-speed-*`in my interesting tags list (which does accept wildcards). I clicked on it and it brought me to that URL.

It's quite hidden, yes. I just found about it.

alexanderpas

@sjohnston sound like the regular unpaid beta-tester deal... expect to pay when it releases!

sjohnston

@alexanderpas for sure

hheimbuerger

@badp Huh. So wildcards work for favourited tags, but not for search? Strange.

sjohnston

@alexanderpas They really need to broaden their total library fast if the subscription is going to be a worthwhile option.

badp

8:28 PM

@hheimbuerger I think favourite tag highlighting mainly happens via Javascript.

Although some server-side favourite tag processing does happen in the Unanswered questions page.

alexanderpas

@sjohnston they probaly will, usually, beta testers get a limited selection, specifically chosen to test certain aspects of the product.

badp

(that doesn't mean the difference is a good idea.)

alexanderpas

@badp I call it a bad idea... confusing users.

badp

@alexanderpas Honestly, we're kinda abusing the tag system. Jeff vehemently disagreed on game tagging and would rather see the game name in the question title.

Macha

Which is rubbish. Should we not tag questions about libraries with the name of their library?

badp

8:34 PM

That said... people on SO do tag their questions python or c so I don't really see the difference.

It appears we're the only site with this problem currently, at any rate.

Macha

By that logic we should abolish [django], [asp.net-mvc] etc

alexanderpas

@badp that's a different point in case, usage and code are different.

sjohnston

We don't have a lot of examples of other things we can consistently tag with. Game name is the one obvious choice. In my experience, it has been quite useful for searches and sorting favorites, which seem like the primary use cases to me

Macha

Genres maybe, but they're too broad to be the only tag

alexanderpas

@sjohnston also, Xbox style controllers... my memory is mapped to nintendo buttons.

sjohnston

8:37 PM

@alexanderpas You can use any USB controller

@alexanderpas There is also the fact that games must have special hooks to work with the OnLive remote server system, which will hamper their selection until they can convince developers that it's worth that extra little investment

alexanderpas

@sjohnston DRM, 'nuff said

Macha

@alexanderpas That'll convince publishers, not developers.

sjohnston

@Macha and users hate DRM even more than publishers love it

Macha

And publishers don't create games. It'll give the OnLive games a slightly easier time, but it won't bring about more.

sjohnston

Lock-in is one of the biggest downsides of OnLive

alexanderpas

8:40 PM

@sjohnston Windows Lock-in, Steam Lock-in, PSN Lock-in... I don't see a new problem.

sjohnston

Although Steam has proven that it can work

windows lock-in?

alexanderpas

@sjohnston those games that won't like wine ;)

Macha

Which games?

Steam games? Oh yes they do.

alexanderpas

@Macha appdb.winehq.org/…

Macha

That's hit and miss. The developers didn't decide "We will make sure this does not work on wine"

alexanderpas

8:46 PM

@Macha just wait for the game that needs a physical key fob.

Macha

Why would they do so? What benefit does it give them? AC2's PC DRM hurt them enough.

alexanderpas

@Macha I indeed expect Ubisoft to do it (Settlers 7 shows they didn't learn from AC2)

Macha

Settlers 7 showed they were hoping it'd blow over and people would get used to it.

alexanderpas

@Macha no, because if that was the case, they would've used better servers.

Remember the Half-Life 2 Fiasco with Steam? Valve learned from it.

Ivo Flipse

what fiasco?

Macha

8:52 PM

Steam servers crashed on launch day, people couldn't play

alexanderpas

Steam (software)

Steam is a digital distribution, digital rights management, multiplayer and communications platform developed by the Valve Corporation. It is used to distribute games and related media online, from small independent developers to larger software houses. Steam also has community features, automated game updates, and in-game voice and chat functionality. As of 2010, there are over 1,200 games available through Steam, and over 30 million active user accounts. Although Valve never releases sales figures, Steam is estimated to have a 70% share of the digital distribution market for video game...

Macha

"70% share of the digital distribution market for video game" I believe that about as much as when Google claims not to be a search monopoly.

alexanderpas

@Macha it was one of the competitors that made that estimation, and it is an estimation of actual dollars generated/month

hheimbuerger

You think it's less than 70%?

Macha

More

hheimbuerger

9:03 PM

Yeah, okay.

Macha

I'd guess Steam: 80%, D2D: 10%, GFWL: 5%, everyone else: 5%

And that's being generous to D2D and GFWL

alexanderpas

Stardock thinks Impulse has 10%

sjohnston

I find that hilarious

hheimbuerger

I guess it depends a lot on your peers. For example, I've never heard of anyone using D2D or GFWL, but I know of a few Impulse and GOG customers.

Macha

10% is closer to the amount of gamers who have heard of Impluse than the numbers using it.

hheimbuerger

9:07 PM

Quick poll: is Borderlands incredibly resource-demanding?

It works somewhat okay at 800x600 with every setting on the minimum, on the box I usually run e.g. L4D1/2 on 1920x1200 on medium details on.

alexanderpas

Borderlands system requirements

1GB system RAM
2.4 GHz Pentium 4 Processor
NVIDIA Geforce 8600 GS
ATI Radeon HD3000 Series
DVD-ROM drive
8 GB of hard disk space

Left4Dead system requirements

3.0 GHz Pentium 4, 2.0 GHz Dual Core, or AMD64X2 processor,
1 GB RAM,
128 MB DirectX 9.0 graphics card,
Pixel Shader 2.0 support,
DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card,

yay wikipedia

hheimbuerger

like official system requirements are worth anything :)

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alexanderpas

looking at this, i would say, L4D is less graphical intensive.

Macha

More CPU intensive maybe, or else Valve or just being more realists.

Compared to say the official Windows Vista requirements, which are, uhh, highly optimistic.

badp

2 mins ago, by hheimbuerger

like official system requirements are worth anything :)

Macha

9:14 PM

The fact that MS claimed Vista would run acceptably on 1GB of RAM is probably responsible for half of the complaints from when it was new.

alexanderpas

@Macha I would expect that with the AI director.

badp

@alexanderpas Actually the AI director isn't that CPU expensive... I think.

C. Ross

@Macha Absolutely

hheimbuerger

on the server, if anything.

probably not even noticably there

C. Ross

Everyone wanted Vista to do Vista things on XP hardware

alexanderpas

9:17 PM

@badp it's making real-time "intelligent" decisions, you have to at least a little to factor in for that

badp

@CRoss Well, everyone still always wants to be administrator on their own machines.

MS still has some work to do on that.

Ivo Flipse

you have to admit that the OEMs had poor driver support with Vista too

alexanderpas

@CRoss that was just because the Vista hardware was only availble in the stores.... remember... "Windows Vista Compatible" & "Windows Vista Ready" & "Made for Windows Vista"

@IvoFlipse I call that he fault of microsoft: not giving OEM proper documentation and proper time.

badp

@IvoFlipse The drivel model was changed too, so it's not entirely their fault.

That said, Vista was a painful but necessary step for Windows.

UAC alone is awesome.

Ivo Flipse

I'm quite sure OEMs were just sloppy

and tried to sell older models with Vista

alexanderpas

9:23 PM

@IvoFlipse they had to, to get the lowest price for vista, selling XP besides vista meant they had to pay more for both XP and vista!

not to mention the cut-off dates "you can't sell this anymore after" biggest example: google.com/…

Ivo Flipse

I'm not saying Microsoft didn't make mistakes (for instance by putting OEMs under too much pressure)

but the OEMs just tried to cash in over the backs of millions of users

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Q: How do you exploit the level/perk/experience glitch in "Run Goodsprings Run?"

OK, we've established prior that I'm not above using certain exploits (notably the caps exploit for weapon/armor shops) when I play. This, however, is an exploit I'm not sure I would use, because it (a) really seems like it'd make the game entirely too easy and probably less fun overall (since th...

fallout-new-vegas bug cheat

alexanderpas

@IvoFlipse ... and the actions of microsoft could only be seen as encouraging that behaviour ;) (system requirements anyone?)

oh BTW: lol @ microsoft pricing: W7HP = $200 | W7HP Family pack + Cisco Router = $150

hheimbuerger

9:41 PM

So, what's the standpoint on tech problems ("how do I configure game X to work properly on my box?") questions on Gaming?

The FAQ fails to cover this.

alexanderpas

tech problems are generally on-topic.

FAIL!!!

alexanderpas

9:55 PM

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Q: Policy on tech support questions related to games

I noticed the question i3 core performance problems migrated from Superuser to Gaming. It is essentially a tech support question about Linux graphics driver problems/performance. I personally think this question is off-topic on Gaming SE, but there are probably more ambiguous questions about tec...

discussion allowed-questions

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Q: Are questions about games that won't start wanted here?

We have a question over on Super User about why a game doesn't start. I suggested he try here instead as SU has a no game-questions policy. But the another user wondered if questions like that are welcome here. So could you have a look at it and tell if questions like that are welcome?

discussion allowed-questions

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Q: hardware questions?

How should questions related to gaming hardware be handled?

discussion hardware

WillfulWizard

@hheimbuerger Let me see if I can find a good place on meta to get that info into the FAQ...

hmm... I'm not sure how it could be added in a useful way. those basically fall under what's already mentioned.

badp

@hheimbuerger Area51 says they're on-topic, I tend to disagree

er

sjohnston

@badp Excellent. We'll need a new policy debate to fill the vacuum left by game-rec

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badp

I'm looking at the question list for Area51 and it isn't even there

WillfulWizard

Meta general feeling seems to be they're on-topic, but only when directly gaming.

hheimbuerger

10:06 PM

well, guess I'll hold back then

I personally think they absolutely belong on SU (or maybe Linux/Ubuntu in some cases), but I can't earn enough rep to downvote Jeff on everything I disagree on with him. ;)

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WillfulWizard

@hheimbuerger No, I think you should ask it. Meta is actually VERY clear on this, On-topic when related DIRECTLY to gaming.

Thanks @Alexanderpas for the links

Arda Xi

@hheimbuerger I gladly spend all my rep on that.

WillfulWizard

well, consider the following:

A popular game gets patched and won't start for 10% of players, but can be solved by deleting some special file they screwed up. Forums or someone figure this out and spread the word. Someone asks here and on SU. Which population is more likely to have read/know about the fix?

Its scope is a problem with that ONE game.

badp

@WillfulWizard Google

:P

alexanderpas

@WillfulWizard gaming related = not allowed on SU - question asked here will be answered.

WillfulWizard

10:12 PM

@badp Why yes, the SE engine is optimized to serve the answer up to Google. I'm so glad we can do that for them. :P

hheimbuerger

OT: Brilliant! :D "Troubleshooting also really isn't what we do. Our website is about Q&A, not Q&A&Q&A&Q&A&Q&A&Q&A." - badp on meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/1046/…

Arda Xi

@hheimbuerger That was actually mine :)

WillfulWizard

I wish to clarify: please take my last comment very lightheartedly.

Arda Xi

In chat, a long, long time ago.

alexanderpas

@ArdaXi ... on a chat far far away ;)

Arda Xi

10:14 PM

It was actually Q&A&A&A&A&A about list questions (game-rec)

hheimbuerger

Then all the credit to you. A brilliant summary of the situation at any rate. :)

WillfulWizard

@hheimbuerger You know, that's not a bad basis for what's on/off topic. If a tech support really is Q&A, (and gaming...) then its on topic. But if its "my game won't run. WAAAA" then it becomes Q&A&Q&A&Q&A... that's outside our scope. I like it.

alexanderpas

"my game won't run. WAAAA" -- closed as Not a real question by ArdaXi badp alexanderpas tzenes Oak.

sjohnston

@alexanderpas sigh. As usual, I was too slow...

alexanderpas

an example of a good question (due to it's common nature):

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Q: Metoid Prime Trilogy freezes when starting Metroid Prime 3

When i'm trying to start Metroid Prime 3 my Wii freezes, is this a problem with my disk or does my Wii has a problem (I've got a launch-date Wii) Don't know if it is related, but in Metroid Prime, in the chozo ruins, when I shoot the sap sacs the game halts, goes black, and continues again, but ...

wii metroid-prime-trilogy

hheimbuerger

10:21 PM

I don't know. I see your point about more specific problems which only other gamers may know about. But then again, it kinda dilutes the topic of the SE. Answering these questions requires a different approach and doesn't really have much to do with gaming. Plus gamers just might not be interested in technical problems they don't have themselves (like me).

Ergo: SU. But whatever.

alexanderpas

gaming on SU = no-go!

and another game freeze example:

badp

@ArdaXi link or it didn't happen! I totally recall myself thinking about it independently.

alexanderpas

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Q: Super Paper Mario freezes in world 2-2

Whenever I talk to Mimi in world 2-2 of Super Paper Mario my Wii freezes. Do I have a bad disk, or is it my Wii? (actually, i can talk to her once, but if i try again, the freeze happens)

wii super-paper-mario freeze

sjohnston

@hheimbuerger So, we are probably most likely to be able to answer these. They are not answerable on SU (as they'll get closed). These two things, however, do not make an airtight case for their validity on the site.

badp

@sjohnston That's pretty much artificial to be honest (the SU bit).

Arda Xi

10:25 PM

@badp As do I.

sjohnston

@badp what do you mean, artificial?

hheimbuerger

"They will get closed where they actually belong" is a pretty weak argument for accepting them on Gaming. ;)

badp

@sjohnston SU is "anything with a question mark that happens to be done with a computer" pretty much :P

hheimbuerger

But meh, I don't really want to get into that part of your politics...

Ivo Flipse

as long as it's not gaming :P

badp

10:26 PM

@IvoFlipse troubleshooting games is no game, it's troubleshooting.

Fabian

I recall seeing at least one gaming-related tech support question migrated here from SU

sjohnston

@badp Oh. I only have other people's descriptions to go on. I've never been active there.

Ivo Flipse

we banned those, as there's so many problems you can have that it would flood the site with all these slight variations

badp

I'm just taking Arda's main complaint from that epic discussion and transposing it for my advantage, sue me :P

Ivo Flipse

well I'm a mod there @sjohnston, so you can go on me

Arda Xi

10:28 PM

@badp Not.. that.

Remember the bookmarklet, @badp?

alexanderpas

@badp mythbusters!

badp

@ArdaXi Yeah, it got closed too.

Arda Xi

@badp Aww.

Maybe there's still life in it. grabs defibrillator

alexanderpas

CLEAR!

Arda Xi

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Q: Are bookmarklet safe with facebook data?

I usually play mafia wars and use bookmarklet like Spockholm, Arum, etc. Can these bookmarklet get my facebook data when I run them, they usually ask to unframe the facebook page. I was just wondering if they are stealing friends info in my facebook to advertisers? I just want to be sure

mafia-wars

It's open.

sjohnston

10:29 PM

@ArdaXi Watch out. It'll recharge your AP, but you'll be injured.

badp

@ArdaXi Epic fail.

Arda Xi

Nov 8 at 13:45, by badp

lol, 10 hours of ranting about my FRAPS question and then @Arda answers a question about javascript.

badp

Let's correct that.

WillfulWizard

I leave for 5 minutes and come back to torch-and-pitchfork-mob chat, tarring and feathering innocent questions.

alexanderpas

okay reading the question... how about nothingtoinstall.com?

sjohnston

10:31 PM

Seems like bookmarklets interacting with web games occupy a similar space to mods (provided they're designed to work with the game, and not just something insert-coin-esq)

badp

@WillfulWizard Again, welcome to gaming chat

@alexanderpas Indeed

sjohnston

@WillfulWizard We take our Rules seriously here. Especially when we're not sure what they are.

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WillfulWizard

lol, I love gaming.

Arda Xi

Uh oh. I'm totally not a torch-and-pitchfork guy. I'm leaving.

For those of you who haven't had the pleasure of playing Die2Nite with me.

badp

@ArdaXi Tsk, even rawr said you were a torch and pitchfork guy and he's seen you for like a few posts.

Arda Xi

10:35 PM

@badp He was misled by the avatar. Although I don't see why...

Well, good night guys. Have fun killing innocent questions.

alexanderpas

@badp added it as a case to meta

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Q: Off topic close dialog options

Following the New Question Migration Paths blog post, you (mods and those with close right) should ask for links to the sites you'd like questions to be migrated to. Click to embiggen picture. You will need to add links to existing questions that should be/have been migrated to the site in que...

feature-request migration

badp

Alright guys, I'd love to stick around but I have an evil country to overthrow tomorrow night.

See you.

alexanderpas

@badp I know for 100% Arda Xi is not a torch and pitchfork guy, well, on the outside she may look like one, but I know for 100% Arda Xi is not a torch and pitchfork guy

badp

@alexanderpas I was kidding. I don't even really know what "torch and pitchfork guy" means.

alexanderpas

@badp look very closely to the center of the sentence!

C. Ross

10:50 PM

@alexanderpas all this time and I never knew that

badp

@alexanderpas all I see is a gender-unspecific "she" ;)

alexanderpas

Guy

Guy or guys may refer to: * Guy, slang term for a man ** you guys, used in place of second-person plural pronoun "you" (particularly in the USA) * Guy (given name) * Guy, an effigy burned on bonfire night (as in 'Penny for the Guy' - see Guy Fawkes#Legacy for derivation) In places: * Guy, Arkansas * Guy, Indiana * Guy, Texas * Guys, Tennessee In characters *Guy (Final Fight), character from the Final Fight and Street Fighter games *Guy (Fire Emblem), character from Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken *Guy Smiley, character from Sesame Street *Guy #1 and Guy #2, characters in We Like Sportz, by T...

@CRoss MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

C. Ross

11:03 PM

@ArdaXi your profile still says your running for mod. Might want to update that

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Q: Current players in a server

Is there a way to see the current players in a server from the client program?

multiplayer minecraft

LessPop_MoreFizz

Evenin' all

sjohnston

@LessPop_MoreFizz hi

LessPop_MoreFizz

I'm not sure MMO-Tragic fully 'gets' SE.

sjohnston

:-)

alexanderpas

11:18 PM

@Feeds answered.

sjohnston

@Feeds I had wondered that myself

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Q: Left For Dead 2 - Unlock Australian Censorship

I have purchased a copy from Steam and it has all of the visual gore taken out. I'd rather play the game as it was intended and not be at the whims of some politician who thinks all Australians should be treated like children when it comes to gaming. How can I edit, crack, or hack this game int...

left-4-dead-2 censor cracks

WillfulWizard

@LessPop_MoreFizz I think you're right.

LessPop_MoreFizz

he has something of a history of similar faux-pas' floating around the site

WillfulWizard

Similar to what? I see his history just fine but what did he do to specifically make you think he still doesn't get it.

LessPop_MoreFizz

11:23 PM

oh, his latest one? Take a look at the Game-Rec Battle Royale of Destiny

also, hiya @Grace

Grace Note

Hi @Less

And all others. @Willful, @sjohn, @alex, @CRoss

WillfulWizard

@LessPop_MoreFizz OH WOW. Yeah. I'm a little afraid of whats being suggested there.

Hello!

Grace Note

@WillfulWizard Don't be confused if you notice something in your inbox that looks like a comment from me, but when you look at the thread the comment is on another post entirely.

alexanderpas

wow, @GraceNote has come out of hiding ♫

WillfulWizard

Yay for phantom mail.

Grace Note

11:27 PM

Hm...

alexanderpas

only 7 rep left for 5K

LessPop_MoreFizz

I am going to end up getting very very very very angry about comments on that Accessibility answer if they keep moving in the direction they've been headed.

WillfulWizard

@GraceNote You really think hardware/tech questions will be a problem? It seemed to me and everyone but badp that meta solved that already.

Grace Note

I didn't think they would be a problem. That's why I was going to suggest increased leniency.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Legitimate Academic Paper:

Grace Note

11:30 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz I've been very concerned about the exchange myself

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GraceNote Yeah, the flat out offensive remark has been removed, but the attitude clearly remains.

Grace Note

@LessPop_MoreFizz Full disclosure, I flagged it myself.

LessPop_MoreFizz

I'd never wanted a downvote button for a comment so badly before.

WillfulWizard

I reread your comment and all makes sense now. I doubt you'll have that big of a problem.

Grace Note

I did wait for it to accumulate more flags, though.

LessPop_MoreFizz

11:32 PM

I mean, if we decide that treating questions re: Accessibility and reccomendations tailored to specific accessibility concerns is too much trouble, that's one thing, and while I don't agree, I can stand behind the decision. But trying to argue as he is that there isn't a specific domain of knowledge there or that there aren't special needs that need to be addressed - or worse yet, comparing it to having a shitty PC is just offensive.

and I do think @tzenes misses the problem of accessibility in attempting to reject our ability to assist with more 'educational' tools.

We as a community should be perfectly capable of saying, for example, that Borderlands is an absolute nightmare for the color blind.

Grace Note

Ima pick up some dinner, then I'll be back

LessPop_MoreFizz

(It's use of Red and Green UI elements with no other visual distinction except color to represent different states is Really Really Bad. Especially given the lack of a UI toggle to switch to a more color-blind friendly schema).

alexanderpas

link! it feels like 'm missing something here.

WillfulWizard

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A: What should be done with questions asking for game recommendations?

While I agree with @badp in general there are some cases where I think a game recommendation question is OK. The ones that spring to mind are requests for games that can be played by people with disabilities either physical (visual or motor control issues), or behavioural. In these cases it's n...

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Q: Marine blob micro in SC2

In replays, I see Terran players using Marine blobs to have the marine move a bit then attack then move a bit then attack then move a bit then attack. What is the reason for doing this micro? Is there other micro moves for Terran infantry?

starcraft-2 micro

alexanderpas

11:52 PM

@tzenes, seems like you missed a SC2 question :D

Grace Note

Hey, @Strix

WillfulWizard

He'll get around to it no doubt. And with accompanying youtube videos and quotes from pros

alexanderpas

okay everyone, now all together:

Grace Note

Open question: how can one express concern over perspective over one's situation without seeming like some sort of pompous jerk?

alexanderpas

Hello @GraceNote!

Ivo Flipse

11:54 PM

you can't

Grace Note

I was afraid of that (and Hi again, @alex)

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GraceNote The trick isn't to not seem like a pompous jerk, the trick is to make it clear that you have the right to be a pompous jerk in the particular context.

See: me when people start flapping their gums inaccurately about copyrights and piracy.

Grace Note

But... I doubt that I have a right to be a pompous and self-absorbed jerk here.

Otherwise, among other things, I wouldn't feel worried about that perception. Which in itself feels like I'm being a pompous, self-absorbed jerk.

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Q: Considering recommendation requests are arguably out of place on Gaming, where should I ask them?

I'm looking for a very specific genre of game, that should yield no more than 2-3 recommendations, and yet, that would be great. However, considering the debate on game recommendation questions, which tends to prohibit them so far, I'm left wondering where would be an appropriate place on the w...

game-rec

LessPop_MoreFizz

Sounds like you need an injection of Confidence. And/or need to reconsider your position then.

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