2016 Science Fiction & Fantasy Moderator Election

Mike Edenfield

12:59 AM

@Shog9 I'm a terrible answerer, so I'm perfect.

I'm a bit confused at all the people downvoting me or jack or whatever in the primary, though.

we're so offensive that you don't even want us running? Yeesh.

Shog9

Vote Mike: it's all he's good for.

Mike Edenfield

that's effectively my platform.

Keen

3:25 PM

4 hours until it's election time!

Jack B Nimble

3:47 PM

@MikeEdenfield This is just backlash from the bad PR over my HP song

Napoleon Wilson

5:03 PM

@MikeEdenfield I'd wonder if noone downvoted you. People in an election are usually highly visible users who necessarily make quite some enemies over time, some of them even unbeknownst. If noone downvotes you, you haven't really engaged in moderating the site at all yet.

Jack B Nimble

Enemies? I have no enemies. All my enemies are dead....

Keen

@JackBNimble So zombies?

Jack B Nimble

@Keen Hmmm...

I ain't fraid of no zombies.

Jack B Nimble

6:25 PM

35 minutes to go.

Keen

6:59 PM

...you mean 1 hour, 35 mins?

it's 1 hour left now

Jack B Nimble

It told me 1 hour, 1 hour ago

Keen

now it's telling me 1 hour!

Jack B Nimble

Well, now it is saying minutes.

I guess 1:59:59 to it = 1 hour

Keen

yeah, pretty much.

phantom42

no, jack was stuck in the speed force

Jack B Nimble

7:02 PM

It probably could have said < 2 hours.

I got my hopes up for nothing.

Loong

in Mos Eisley, 21 hours ago, by Jack B Nimble

I'm back, from the future.

Jack B Nimble

I'm from the future. I came here in a time machine YOU invented!

Now we play a little thing I like to call, The Waiting Game.

Mike Edenfield

if jack gets elected keen will start bleeding from the nose, and disappearing.

Keen

i hate when i start bleeding from my disappearing.

phantom42

until someone gets released from their suspension

Mike Edenfield

7:08 PM

yeah, we'll have to hurl richard at super-luminal speeds at the nearest gap in the space-time continuum

phantom42

/checks room. switches tabs

user132126

@MikeEdenfield Will this cause Jason Todd to come back to life?

Mike Edenfield

7:29 PM

possibly.

Jack B Nimble

7:59 PM

7 seconds.

Jason Baker

phantom42

Mike Edenfield

kinda weird that you can only see their reputation after you vote for them.

Ixrec

crap, I forgot to decide who I actually want to vote for

Jack B Nimble

@Ixrec Umm, me, obviously, and then... two others.

Mike Edenfield

8:13 PM

jack and jesse and slater

Keen

@Ixrec Well that's what this room is for, ask others who you should vote for.

Mike Edenfield

I didn't check but, did the primary come out as we all expected?

Ixrec

looks like it

Jack B Nimble

Stupid Primary. I HATE YOU SO MUCH!

Ixrec

I can't make up my mind, one of you needs to get suddenly suspended and make this easier

Keen

8:21 PM

Free silver badges for all voters!

Loong

76 people have already voted.

Mike Edenfield

@Ixrec I'll give you one free tag, your choice, if you vote for me.

Jack B Nimble

Is that the sum of the people in this room and the main chat room?

phantom42

31 all time users for this room

user132126

@MikeEdenfield Mike Edenfield implies he'll limit tag creation outside of existing privilege systems. Vote for Mike, vote for censorship.

Mike Edenfield

8:25 PM

@CreationEdge not censorship; tag tax.

Jack B Nimble

Nice slogan.

Mike Edenfield

5 rep per tag.

I'll tax the high-rep users to pay for the tags the low rep users need to ask questions.

user132126

Think Mike wants to clean up tags? Think again. He's just looking for extra rep. Vote for Mike, vote for the 1%.

Jack B Nimble

I don't understand how anyone could vote for @Null. He's like a pointer that doesn't point at anything.

He's like an object without an instance.

Mike Edenfield

@CreationEdge not true, I'm the Bernie Sanders of tags.

user132126

8:26 PM

Next election I should hire out my smear campaign skills.

Mike Edenfield

@CreationEdge social liberalism!

user132126

@MikeEdenfield Mike, known to flip-flop on issues!

user132126

You can't win against smear campaigns.

user132126

It's like trying to keep out of the tabloids when you're famous.

SSumner

@JackBNimble that may be true, but why would we want someone whose claim to fame is jumping 8 inches in the air

user132126

8:27 PM

Mike Edenfield: Pregnant?! Is it really Cthulu's?

Mike Edenfield

The establishment is so scared of me they've set their biased media attack dog on me. Up the Tag Revolution! Don't buy into the vast right-wing conspiracy!

Jack B Nimble

@SSumner I'd like to see any other scifi enthusiast with ashama and rapid onset diabetes perform the same feat!

SSumner

But then you fell down the I'll and broke your crown so can you really be called sane?

user132126

@MikeEdenfield Oh man, I'm part of the establishment? ;_;

Ixrec

I'm really starting to wish I could pick at least 4 candidates

user132126

8:29 PM

@JackBNimble I have a feeling that's a pretty large demographic of sci-fi fans, #-wise, not %-wise

phantom42

@CreationEdge number-wise or pound-wise?

SSumner

Star that man!

user132126

@phantom42 Either, I guess!

Jack B Nimble

@SSumner I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.

Keen

Look at all them voters: scifi.stackexchange.com/help/badges/89/constituent

SSumner

8:32 PM

@JackBNimble I'm gonna need to see proof. Oh, and your birth certificate

Loong

@Keen 111 now

Keen

Wow, @JackBNimble got the first badge for voting.

Ixrec

seems a little weird that we have a complete list of everyone who voted in what order

can't figure out how you'd abuse it though

SSumner

Nah

Jack B Nimble

@Keen I'm like Jack B Quick.

Keen

8:33 PM

It's clearly done in batches. It's not like everyone's waiting a few mins to vote all together.

SSumner

@keen unless everyone is just sockpuppets and they're voting together...

Mike Edenfield

Jack Be Nimble. Jack Be Quick. Jack Be Terrible At Grammar.

Keen

Yussss, I rounded out the first 10 badge earners.

Ixrec

yeah, looks like exactly 5 minute intervals

Mike Edenfield

I think that's plenty long enough, can we just tally the votes now?

Keen

8:36 PM

Nope, now comes the next 3 days of me changing my votes as the whim strikes.

Jack B Nimble

In my Election PostMortem blog post break down I'm going to mention I saw so many people referring to others without the '@' sign.

SSumner

It would be interesting to see a running graph of the leaders post- election (obviously you would be able to figure out who votes that way with the current system though)

Jack B Nimble

Now to spread around some campaign leaflets. I think adding comments to 8000 questions asking for their support ought to do the trick.

Keen

@SSumner You're missing a 'not' there somewhere, I think.

Ixrec

@SSumner if they used a wide enough time interval (1 hour?) it'd probably be fine

Mike Edenfield

8:42 PM

@Keen I think he's saying, if we could see who was ahead in votes over time and correlate it to when people got the badge we could figure it out

Jack B Nimble

I wonder if anyone has ever tried a comment spam campaign to win a moderator election.

Mike Edenfield

or he's not saying that in which case I just said that

did they implement the comment spam moderator notification?

if you get suspended during the election can you still win?

Shog9

no

you are immediately disqualified and removed.

Mike Edenfield

i mean, our local tax collector died in the middle of the last election and he won.

seems unfair

Shog9

dying is one thing. We're talking about suspensions here

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Mike Edenfield

8:44 PM

ah.

Jack B Nimble

I'm considering dying to get the sympathy vote.

Mike Edenfield

if jack dies, do the CMs get to appoint someone from his party to take his place in the election?

Jack B Nimble

I'll nominate @MikeEdenfield to be my VP of Moderating.

Null

@JackBNimble Now that's dedication. You must really want the position.

user132126

So, it's better to die than get suspended.

Jack B Nimble

8:45 PM

From an election stand point.

Mike Edenfield

@CreationEdge from Shog's perspective, at least. Far less drama.

user132126

Pretty tight ship around here! Might have to learn Gun Kata.

Ixrec

in all seriousness, which candidates do we think have the best shot of winning?

user132126

Look at the primary votes, I guess.

Keen

Pretty much. Although primaries let people vote for and against everyone.

Jason Baker

8:49 PM

Null and I led the primary in net score

Jack B Nimble

Right, they have unlimited votes up or down.

Jason Baker

rand and Null led in total upvotes

user132126

And leaders in downvotes are?

user132126

I stopped keeping track.

Jason Baker

Well Arvin

No surprise there

Ixrec

8:50 PM

yeah, the "winner" in the primary could always be the guy that everyone thought was good, but no one thought was the best

Jason Baker

But after him, Mithrandir and rand

user132126

Rand has high total upvotes, but also tons of downvotes (#3) and his Q&A is really DV. I'm really not sure how to place his chances, based on that info.

user132126

It's an interesting scenario.

Jason Baker

Yeah, rand is quite contentious

Alex and I had the lowest number of downvotes

It's still anybody's game

But I think we can likely discount Mithrandir, Himarm, SSumner, and CreationEdge

phantom42

if rand wins, i'm moving to ~~canada~~ M/TV

Shog9

8:54 PM

Reminder: y'all have until next Tuesday to vote. Take your time, read the answers to the questions, and think about who you want representing you.

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Jack B Nimble

That's crazy talk. Vote your conscious, vote Nimble.

user132126

@JasonBaker I don't want to be discounted. Full price or you get nothing from me.

Shog9

*Numble

Jason Baker

@CreationEdge You sure? I'll give you a good deal

user132126

Can CMs see real time election results?

Mike Edenfield

9:01 PM

@phantom42 that thought has crossed my mind, frankly.

Keen

@Shog9 Ignore this man, vote recklessly and with abandon!

Weird, that reply doesn't have the little arrow dealy.

phantom42

@Keen vote early, vote often!

Mike Edenfield

@Keen yes it does?

Keen

I blame caching. after a refresh it's there now for me.

Jack B Nimble

Was the constituent badge count before this election started?

Loong

9:03 PM

@JackBNimble 769

Jack B Nimble

Is it considered election tampering if I ask.. 115 volunteers to go up-vote 40 questions and 30 answers and leave a comment "Here is a free vote, please remember Jack B Nimble when you vote for moderator." ?

Truth be told, if I had 115 supports willing to do that, I could probably win the election without canvasing.

Mike Edenfield

what if Joshua edited the top 25 tag wiki excerpt to say "Vote for Mike E and Save This Tag Wiki!"

Loong

27 mins ago, by Mike Edenfield

if you get suspended during the election can you still win?

Ixrec

what if you did those things without first announcing it in a chatroom where Shog9 is watching?

phantom42

BTW rand, i was just kidding earlier. just needed a name to put in for the joke. yours came to mind because your entry was so contentious.

Jack B Nimble

9:11 PM

Are you suggesting these legitimate election tactics would get us suspended?

Mike Edenfield

@phantom42 we might have been kidding but I wouldn't be surprised if that was a genuine opinion held by some people.

phantom42

oh, im sure

Mike Edenfield

at least one person openly threatened to leave the site if I won. :(

Jack B Nimble

@MikeEdenfield Was it your most vocal commenter?

Mike Edenfield

@JackBNimble I believe the Google doc is still there if you're curious.

Shog9

9:14 PM

You can't threaten to move to Canada if you're already living in Canada.

Jack B Nimble

@Shog9 You can threaten to move to 100 miles north of the US border. Then you are in a whole different Canada.

Mike Edenfield

move to quebec

user132126

> If he's elected, I'll stay in Canada!

Shog9

more empty campaign promises

user132126

If elected, I promise to do the $h!t work without complaint!

Mike Edenfield

9:15 PM

so anyway. once this is over we get to move on to being overly dramatic about cooking.se, right?

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phantom42

i'll move to quora

or yahoo answers

Keen

@phantom42 Hey, let's not go crazy here.

user132126

Thaddeus is already on Quora, easy transition.

Jon Ericson

@MikeEdenfield I hear that election is heating up.

Mike Edenfield

@phantom42 devdoodle.

Shog9

9:16 PM

Anyway, I honestly believe that everyone running could make a good moderator. I hope y'all think less about disaster and focus more on who is best prepared to make the changes in their participation required to moderate effectively.

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Mike Edenfield

@JonEricson how many passive-agressive meta posts has it garnered so far?

Shog9

Because... That's always necessary. Changes, I mean.

Mike Edenfield

@JonEricson also, this is not the pun room.

in Mos Eisley, Jan 12 at 21:35, by Ana

@WadCheber We have an ongoing joke amongst the CMs that when someone makes an egregiously terrible pun, they get 'fired'. Sometimes, if someone's on a roll, they can get fired several times in a single afternoon. If you worked at Stack Exchange @Wad, you would definitely have just been fired for that one.

sounds like you're fired.

coal fired? who knows.

Jon Ericson

Yes. We all are often fired by the end of the day.

I like my steak rare as a pink slip.

Hmmm... that one's underdone.

SSumner

10:22 PM

@MikeEdenfield yes, that was what I meant

Jack B Nimble

Over 200 voters so far.

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