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user147690
11:39
What chapters should I read from Lee's Topological manifolds?
Huy
Huy
12:59
@AlexClark: Just the ones you need or want to. :P
user147690
@Huy Okay haha, I thought perhaps the fact it is a 'natural sequel' would mean I need a few chapters. I also thought the intro chapters said something about 'Lee00' (topological manifolds) being assumed blah blah, but I can't find it now
Huy
Huy
@AlexClark: You'll probably need a few chapters, but likely mostly results and not the proofs.
user147690
Sounds reasonable. I imagine by Jan 1 I can get the first chapter done including reading prereq stuff :D
13:49
@AlexClark have you taken a course in point set topology before? Or algebraic topology?
user147690
@RobertCardona Sort of to the first and no to the second
The first 4 chapters of Lee's topological manifolds deal with point set and after that it starts dealing with algebraic topology. It's a very good book to get introduced to algebraic topology I think.
I'd recommend you just focus on smooth manifolds. Anything you'll need should be in the appendix.
Just fill in details as you go along.
Or ask us here.
user147690
That was what I was thinking, I'll check out topological manifolds for the sake of it though
It's really good. I have a copy on my desk to read when I'm tired of the other stuff I'm studying.
@RobertCardona So have you tried setting up the server? Is there something that I can help?
13:58
I'm working on it.
I was going to do it Friday, I paid for a new server and they've been emailing me for validation of my address, identity, etc.
I don't have access to it yet. But once I do, it shouldn't be more than an hour or two.
I've read through the set up instructions and it's all fairly straight forward.
That's cool.
I just don't have some of the tools on my current server and don't have root access (to make some apache changes, etc.)
I'll update my reddit post as well as post here when it's up and running!
I'll ping you.
How will the webpage be organized? Is each section going to correspond to an exercise?
I've been thinking about that. I'm not sure. What do you think?
I'd hate to have an entire sction with all the exercises in one page. It would be nice to have a problem per section so that people could commend on a specific problem/solution.
a problem per page that is.
Even I was thinking the same.
I still don't quite understand the tags, though.
14:04
Once I have it setup I'll start making those changes incrementally, after getting feedback.
The subreddit currently has 99 readers!
I've updated the readme in my local copy. I'm hoping people will post their solutions at whatever level of rigour they want, then others can edit it or add their own versions, or remove versions, etc.
I wonder how many will participate
Huy
Huy
Just FYI, I doubt that you'll need any real algtop in Lee's Smooth Manifolds. I don't know any but I worked through the book, so I would have likely noticed.
Maybe it would be useful to prove which spheres are parallelizable and which are not, but I don't think he does this?
@fermesomme Yeah, it's a shame you need 20 rep to chat here, some people seem to be put off by that.
Is there some way to circumvent the minimum rep (like mod-intervention)?
Huy
Huy
yes, but only mods can do it, and Daniel told me that if only mods can do it, it's not intended to be used for purposes like this
14:15
That's unfortunate.
 
4 hours later…
17:51
I'm getting a bit ahead, but I've got a question on the tangent space.
I'll set up a few propositions first.
Proposition 1: For any point $p$ in a manifold $M$ and any tangent vector $X_p \in T_pM$, there are $\varepsilon > 0$ and a smooth curve $c : (-\varepsilon, \varepsilon) \to M$ such that $c(0) = p$ and $c'(0) = X_p$.
We define a smooth curve on a manifold $M$ to be a smooth map $c : (a, b) \to M$ and for $t_0 \in (a, b)$, we define the velocity vector to be $$c'(t_0) = c_* \bigg( \frac{d}{dt} \bigg \vert_{t_0} \bigg) \in T_{c(t_0)}M.$$
Proposition 2: Let $c : (a, b) \to M$ be a smooth curve, and let $(U, (x^1, \ldots, x^n))$ be a coordinate chart about $c(t)$. Write $c^i = x^i \circ c$ for the $i$th coordinate of $c$ in the chart. Then $c'(t)$ is given by $$c'(t) = \sum_{i = 1}^n \dot c^i(t) \frac{\partial}{\partial x^i} \bigg \vert_{c(t)}.$$
Proposition 3: Let $F : N \to M$ be a smooth map of manifolds, $p \in N$ and $X_p \in T_pN$. if $c$ is a smooth curve starting at $p$ in $N$ with velocity $X_p$ at $p$, then $$F_*(X_p) = \frac{d}{dt} \bigg \vert_0 F \circ c.$$
Now to the problem: I want to calculate the differential of left multiplication by a matrix on the general linear group over $\mathbb R$. Or more precisely, I want to understand a line in a proof.
The Statement: If $g \in \text{GL}_n(\mathbb R)$, let $l_g : \text{GL}_n(\mathbb R) \to \text{GL}_n(\mathbb R)$ be defined by $B \mapsto g \cdot B$.
Notice that $\text{GL}_n(\mathbb R) \subseteq \mathbb R^{n^2}$ and so is naturally a submanifold of $\mathbb R^{n^2}$.
This tells us that $T_g(\text{GL}_n(\mathbb R)) \cong T_g(\mathbb R^{n^2}) \cong \mathbb R^{n^2}$.
I want to show that $(l_g)_* : T_I(\text{GL}_n(\mathbb R)) \to T_g(\text{GL}_n(\mathbb R))$ is also multiplication by $g$.
Here's a proof I've come across and am trying to decipher:
The Proof: Let $X \in T_I(\text{GL}_n(\mathbb R))$. By Proposition 1, there exist $\varepsilon > 0$ and a smooth curve $c : (-\varepsilon, \varepsilon) \to \text{GL}_n(\mathbb R)$ such that $c(0) = I$ and $c'(0) = X$.
It follows that $l_g \circ c = g \cdot c$ (simply matrix multiplication).
By Proposition 3: $$(l_g)_*(X) = \frac{d}{dt} \bigg \vert_{t = 0} l_g \circ c = \frac{d}{dt} \bigg \vert_{t = 0} g \cdot c = g c'(0) = gX.$$
In this computation, $\displaystyle \frac{d}{dt} \bigg \vert_{t = 0} g \cdot c = g \cdot c'(0)$ by $\mathbb R$-linearity and Proposition 2.
It's this last line I can't understand. I don't see why it's true, why $\mathbb R$-linearity comes into play and how Proposition 2 is used.
18:36
I've updated the readme on the repo. Please feel free to modify it if it doesn't agree with the philosophy of the group. Or send me some comments and I'll update it.
 
3 hours later…
21:50
This is looking great! Just started delving into Lee today and I think I'm finally over his tilde-bar notation (hurt my eyes at first :) ). Robert, I'm assuming this is your project? Thanks for setting this up, it is exactly what I need over break.
22:06
I've never worked with a communal github before. How should I work with it? Should I fork?
22:37
@BenKushigian, No! This isn't my project. I'm not sure who's it is. I've just decided to create a solutions page so we can share our thoughts. It doesn't have to be just solutions, but insights as well.
Yeah, you fork, make changes, then make a pull request to merge back.
Also make sure you update your fork with the latest code on the parent. (I've forgotten how to do that, but it's a quick google search)
Cool, thanks. Also, what section is your above post on (the tangent spaces)?
Oh, it's from another book, by Loring Tu. Section 8.
It's been driving me crazy for an entire day,.
Ahhh, I almost picked that up but I've hit my Amazon cap for the month.
Amazon cap?
I love it. It's been amazing at connecting the new concepts with what I learned in Multivariable Calculus.
22:57
My amazon cap is the amount that I can spend without feeling guilty about it. Just dropped ~300 bucks a couple weeks back on texts so I'm trying to let my wallet bounce back from that before I buy anything else :D. But student aid comes in in a couple weeks so I might have to treat myself to that text.
23:11
Is there a way to make just a single chapter instead of make all?
yes, "make smooth-manifolds.pdf" should do it
I used to do that to, but what would happen to me is that I would get many books and not read them.
Now I just check them out of the library and force myself to read them within the time limit.
Works great!
Yeah, I've gotten a lot better. A lot of these are for a course I'm taking next semester and some are for some background reading on the course that I'm behind on.
Btw, I'm in the process of setting up the server

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