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00:09
@Jan That Thomas guy is using different unregistered accounts.
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Jan
*facepalm*
Ergo, he/she cannot comment on his/her own posts.
00:34
@Secret In addition to pymol already mentioned, which allows you to select the atoms in each structure to match best for the alignment intended
and to display the matched couple later
there is a manual way to do so, too, with Avogadro
-- freely available, too --
It reads a large number of chemical structure files (thanks to openbabel), including *.xyz.
One way is to open two instances of the software, each with one of the structures intended for the manual superposition; and than copy-paste one structure from one frame into the second instance of already containing the second structure.
There will be a little extra on the left hand side of the GUI
like a transformation matrix; but you may use your mouse to realign the molecules, too.
If the xyz is result of quantum chemical computation, than good old fellow Molekel (ugovaretto.github.io/molekel) likely offers as well a manual superposition of the two.
Anyone know of any chemistry, primarily computational chemists, looking for an undergrad to do research (long-distance.)
I enjoy my current research, but I would like to be doing something else.
as well*
00:51
@MelanieShebel
you want to determine the activation energy of a claisen rearrangement for me?
I'll cite you if I ever get around to performing the synthesis ;)
have you tried emailing anybody from various universities yet? I find that working long-distance on comp. chem. works pretty well, but it makes more sense once you're already acquainted with the group
I went and worked at a theoretical chemistry lab across the Atlantic from me, and now I work from home remotely back in Canada
@Melanie Shebel Does "I would like to be doing something elseI would like to be doing something else" refer to doing something /outside/ computational chemistry?
If so, may you provide some details what you would prefer to address?
Note that the site your account points to initially yields this warning.
 
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gotta have that valid SSL certificate
 
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03:51
Hey @Buttonwood I fixed that, it had https instead of http, sorry. Haha.
My current research addresses protein folding which I enjoy. I have no particular thing I wish to address, just want to learn something new and learn new technology.
It was supposed to be melbel.hubpages.com
 
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05:14
@MelanieShebel bug Geoff, he might be receptive, AFAIK he is always looking for undergrads to do stuff
and make sure you visit next year (if you get in)
 
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@Buttonwood Are molekel and pymol the only two that allows semi-automatic superimpose via matching atoms between two molecules via clicking?
 
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hey
10:08
can anybody help me to know how the reaction proceeds
 
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11:43
@Melanie Shebel Perhaps this is bringing owls to Athens (referring to the one in Greece, but who want exclude Georgia's ...) but taking into account your profile of /both/ chemistry and programming, perhaps something that brings R and chemistry together. By this, referring lesser to numerical analysis than to chemometrics
as apparently there are packages around that may read *.sdb files
as the ones understood by Marvin Sketch, for example
and by doing so, maybe looking on relationships of molecular structures and physical properties is possible.
By myself, I do not have sufficient insight into R so far; just started by an accidental contact / second contact with the Emacs editor which was triggered by the interest for the org-mode which allows reporting and code execution from one file.
(like python, or R)
Beside the other mode, /Emacs speaks statistics/.
@hey I'm not sure if I decipher your scheme completely, yet think aniline would react with acetyl chloride to the corresponding acetanilide P.
Subsequently, there could be electrophilic aromatic substitution of an H by a Br.
Starting from acetanilide, /ortho/ and /para/ orientation would be preferable over /metha/, let's say /para/ is what the drawing intended ...
Q to R, is the description over the arrow /just/ water, or $\ce{H3O+}$?
If the later, a hydrolysis of the ester to yield the free amine is ... at least possible.
@Secret I lack experience if ghemical would allow simultaneous display and separate move / alignment, too. Pymol -- similar to DSVA's comment -- was used by mine in the past, and it did the job (and others addressed subsequently) good enough. Hence I stood by this software, not seeing a need to venture out other software in addition.
With the molecular docking biochemists do so often in silico, perhaps Melanie Shebel does know "first hand" alternatives, too?
12:04
Well, I guess I need to learn a bit of python then in order to compile Pymol cause I am not sure if my research group will allow purchasing the Pymol from the schrodinger company
As for Molekel, I cannot find any mention of the superimpose function in the latest version (ver 5). The links to older versions also seemed to died out because back then it is managed by another author
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12:18
@Buttonwood Thanks a lot
@Secret Regarding Molekel, it was once tied to the Swiss supercomputing centre, now "things changed".
Pymol, on the other hand, beside the commercialized version has found entry in Linux repositories, too -- While these are not the newest versions (for obvious reasons) and lack some of the functions the full version offer, alignment of structures was possible.
To get familiar with basics of pymol, especially the latter will not cost a dime.
@hey I'm not sure if gabedit should be included in the superposition of structures, or Jmol and just trying the former in this perspective.
Do I assume correctly, that your background is more the computational side of chemistry?
12:51
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Apparently, if you want to go for Jmol (jmol.sourceforge.net), maybe not as much scriptable as Avogadro, superposition is possible: bioinformatics.org/pipermail/molvis-list/2007q2/000427.html
(And if you want / have to refrain from java, there is a version in javascript, too.)
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13:11
@Buttonwood sorry , I could not understand what you are talking about gabedit , Jmol.....
@secret it's not hard to compile, you don't really need knowledge about python (but you should learn python if you do more computational stuff) and iirc there are pre-compiled windows versions available which work without problems, at least for me
Well, the issue is that I use a mac, so I need to check whether I can find a mac version
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13:40
Inexplicably not assessed: who felt more moral superiority http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0115069 https://t.co/KmyWL2i75X
14:15
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Q: Calculate delta S constant pressure heating

Osei Nayaw5. The constant pressure molar heat capacity of nitrogen is given by the expression C p , m ( 27.0 + 5.90 × 10 − 3 T − 0.34 × 10 − 6 T 2 ) J/( K mol ) Calculate the value of S for heating 1 mol of nitrogen from 25.0 º C to 125 º C at constant pressure.

That m is prolly big enough
@Zhe That's ridiculously inaccurate
14:40
@hey gabedit (gabedit.sourceforge.net) is a software that assists you preparing / editing / accessing the input files for software in the field of computational chemistry. To quote "GAMESS(US), GAUSSIAN, MOLCAS, MOLPRO , MPQC, OpenMopac, Orca, PCGamess and Q-Chem"
And in addition, it allows at least a preview of the results these programs generate, too.
Jmol is a software for displaying molecular structures, as it is able to read numerous chemical files. Initially, it was designed to work on the foundations of Java -- as Java may run under Windows, Mac, Linux, you are able to deploy Jmol on all three of these environments easily. If there are safety issues regarding Java, or if you aim for an implementation of this viewer in a HTML5 page, than there is a version called JSmol, based on javascript, too.
@hey Regarding pymol, generally speaking there are two versions: the one commercialized by Schrödinger, and the so-called Open-Source PyMOL.
In regard for the operating systems, both are available for windows, Mac, Linux.
If you have access to a Mac, then pymolwiki.org/index.php/MAC_Install describes both how to proceed if you want / have to deploy the commercial variant, or pre-compiled open-source versions of Pymol.
To quote their page: "Pre-compiled Open-Source PyMOL is available free of charge with the MacPorts, Fink and Homebrew environments. "
I then agree with DSVA, compilation is something you may learn by the example of others. Pymol benefits from functions included in python, but just to start the software, you do not need to know Python at all.
You may use pymol simply as a GUI. But there are functions that are either easier accessed knowing pyhton, or are not accessible by a GUI because at some point, the developers have to decide what function is accessible by the menus.
Beside pymol, spend some time learning python -- it will be useful to know about a modern programming language that is easy to read / to write, may be deployed across Mac / windows / linux in anyway.
14:59
I'm enjoying your tutorial, but I'm not sure it sparks hey's interest much
@M.A.R. I do not know his / her background.
It could be a) he / she is too young in the field, simply does not know yet about python.
It could be b) that he / she does know about it already, than it is bringing owls to Athens.
Well ... the ballon is in her / his field.
With the earlier question posted here (instead of the normal chemistry.SE) about the generation of /p/-bromo aniline, I speculate he / she is starting in chemistry; but this does not say a iota about knowledge in other fields.
hey
hey
@Buttonwood I don't know about them much.
I am just a high school student
BTW thanks for help
@hey Don't worry, in the beginning we all are starting as freshman.
hey
hey
yeah
Or, thinking back when I started studying chemistry; there were several students in the room without a chemistry class for years prior to going to the university.
hey
hey
15:09
In which university you are in
Eventually, if your mind is flexible and welcoming the new things to learn, you will be well prepared to acquire knowledge.
I'm no longer student at a university.
As one profile read "once a chemist, every time a chemist"
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oh I see
@Buttonwood There are many things to learn
.... .... yeah. It may be overwhelming.
And I do not restrain this observation to "starting to study chemistry"
If, advancing studies request to specialize, you will see so much work already done by others ...
Later, if you start to work for thesis -- masters, bachelors, phd, etc. -- the task to look up "what is the current state of art / science" in the field you set your work in context.
Each time you publish your work in journal, you do so as well; each time on a suitable scale, of course.
If, for what ever reason, you change the topic slightly / largely, you have to know what others did /prior/ to work of yours.
Sometimes, this may be frustrating in the sense you see "my thinking that A and B provides product C" or "perhaps material A has these properties as material B, too" was justified; but actually already is published by someone else ...
Better to recognize such overlap early, and not in the final stages of your work.
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Jan
^
Accessing multiple sources and databases may help you to prevent such to happen; on the other side, given the large body of publications, even these secondary sources have a backlog
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15:19
Like a research project of mine that did not result in publication because the reviewers found practically the same work published five years ago.
Good point, Jan.
In an instance of mine, one of my supervisors got a paper to review -- it was soooo close to the topic addressed by mine that he a) rejected to review the paper, got b) one of the authors to come over, and c) even started a small-scale colaboration.
Jan
Jan
*sighs* I wonder when the day will come when I manage to reach a beautiful world like that .__.
But already assuming chemists in India, Asia, China as much as intelligent as the ones in Europe, Americas, Africa ... by sheer number that means some competition by large numbers ...
Jan
Jan
India =/= Asia =/= China? *confused*
I was searching for a region with many people, hence many chemists. In /this/ instance, "Asia" probably is sufficient. Some more than a billion inhabitants in India, and in China, well the numbers for Asia in total escape my mind.
Refuse to review, this was the expected professional way.
To convince the other to come over for a presentation, to convince for a collaboration ... well, this needs convincing arguments, and agreement by the other side.
As the saying "it takes two to Tango"
;-)
Jan
Jan
15:27
Yes definitely ;)
But yeah, do read that statement up there as me applauding your supervisor for being a great person for even considering! I have heard stories of someone getting a paper to review, telling his chinese grad student to quickly reproduce the stuff and then using his connections to the editor of a different journal to publish it more quickly than the original.
By chance, you refer to the Maoecrystal V-story, don't you?
Because it reads a bit like this...
Jan
Jan
I forgot the details.
Well, if I remember Kalesse correctly, he is in synthetic organic chemistry, including natural products, too -- and hence assume you have some insight, too.
It is a complex polycylic molecule, initially described as very potent on HeLa cancer cells.
So "a rush" about "who is the first to get it in hands".
Big names step into the scene, including Scripps La Jolla's group around Phill Baran.
Jan
Jan
Oh, I heard the story back in Munich before I joined Kalesse.
(Yeah, Kalesse does natural product synthesis and I failed at the same subject)
While I do not have the reference in Org. Let. on my fingertips, his first publication states that a chinese co-worker took unrightfull advantage of the knowledge earned during this stay.
You attempted Maoecrystal V, too?
So then, did you feel better when Baran's group eventually wrote again about the molecule?
Two pages open access, 100 pages+ SI; years of work to get about half a gram.
To figure out, neither special against HeLa cells, nor AT ALL potent against any cancer cells tested.
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15:36
No I failed at natural product synthesis :D
Derek's /in the pipeline / courante had a special about it.
With the phthalocyanine on your tag, does it refer to a turn towards materials chemistry then?
or porphyrine
Jan
Jan
That’s a tribute to my master’s thesis and no, it was supramolecular chemistry.
si Sauvage, si angeLehnt ...
(two chemists in Strasbourg)
maybe towards dendrimers now?
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Jan
Self-replication, actually.
"Self-replication" as a topic in chemistry is something new for me, I had to google it.
Within the limits of the "read so far" like biochemistry, DNA chemistry ...
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15:45
Fun fact: After my master’s thesis when I left Munich, a guy everybody just cally Kinki took over the project as a new PhD student some six months later. Now I took 12 semesters (six years) to get from freshman to completed Master’s which is already one year more than you should be taking. But Kinki had been my maths tutor in my first year so he again took another year at least.
How kinky is Kinki?
O là là, Monsieur ...
So far, it is about chemistry...
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!!doi/10.1021/ja00159a057
DOI 10.1021/ja00159a057 :
"Self-replicating system"
First author : T. Tjivikua
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A: Help me understand electrochemistry and batteries

alphonseYou can't "connect" with Zn/Cu? You'll need to be more clear, I don't understand what you mean. (You seem to be implying that you understand Al and steel in a more comprehensive way than zinc or copper, but that doesn't seem plausible to me.) The zinc half cell reaction is Zn°(s) + H2O + H+ → Zn+...

Oh noes, another Li Zhi D=
15:50
@Chemobot Thank you, I take it as an entry. Not really ẅeeken study, but for Monday comming.
@Jan Jesus, it's like Li Zhi's offspring or what
Well, the answer lacks some formatting.
I think recently there was a (meta?) discussion about formatting here.
@Buttonwood More like about Li Zhi
DOI 10.1021/ja00159a057 :
"Self-replicating system"
First author : T. Tjivikua
@Chemobot Thank you, I take it as an entry. Not really ẅeeken study, but for Monday comming.
@Jan So this answer posted, the wall of words; better to keep it as a memorial "do not do so in future" or invest some time to render it more legible?
16:16
@M.A.R. how so? I can absolutely believe it. Do not forget (from the abstract) "LaTeX users, however, more often report enjoying using their respective software."
@pentavalentcarbon I didn't check the document, but I don't think MS Word can make a document as professional as one with LaTeX. When you try to move an image with Word and it creates 5 new pages, You just give up with formatting and get through with text. That's not the case with LaTeX users, and they can hardly ignore layout and formatting
But you know that's not the point of the article...
It's about efficiency, not quality.
Jan
Jan
You can also write LaTeX efficiently if you want. Most people just forget that they want that — or beginners have to look up commands every two seconds xD
@Buttonwood Always improve if it is possible to do so.
I can make a LaTeX document faster than anyone can type the same doc in Word.
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> @Jan Sorry i wanted to delete that and post another answer with complete new reason. My professor had forwarded me that. I said my brother on phone to do that because the stack exchange app has stuck on my iphone and ia m in a wedding ceremony. But he by mistakenly reposted this. Sorry for that. I am saying him to delete it.
Excuse of the day. Sadly deleted.
16:27
\lipsum
@Jan :(
@Jan :(
More specifically the point is that you may be efficient with LaTeX, but you are probably more efficient with Word for a document of average complexity.
Jan
Jan
Word requires too much mouse usage. Even LibreOffice with better shortcuts still requires too much mouse usage. \section{Title} beats selecting Title 1 from the dropdown menu any day.
I think you underestimate how fast some people are with mice compared to typing.
16:32
I'm fast with mice
Most probably because I'm used to its speed
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I’m speaking for myself. It takes me soooo~ long to move my hand away from the keyboard over to the mouse. It’s a little bit better on my Thinkpad with its trackpoint, but even then I physically move my palm which doesn’t move under standard typing (at least by far not as much).
Zhe
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@M.A.R. I have no idea how accurate it is or not. I just thought it was hilarious.
Honestly, I love LaTeX and hate Word, and I am sure that I could do things much better in Word than in LaTeX for a lot of different scenarios.
I think the difference between speed and efficiency is pretty interesting.
I am slower than everyone in my department that I know at typing...I can only transcribe at about 65 WPM (corrected for mistakes).
Just typing, or typing and thinking?
Just typing. Typing and thinking I am even slower.
16:39
You sound faster in chat.
How could you possibly tell? Also my mechanical keyboards make everything sound faster (even though you can't hear them). I do make quite a few mistakes.
@pentavalentcarbon The time I estimate between you reading my message and writing a reply
You sound as fast as me, and I'm kinda 250 WPM.
Speed is only one piece of the puzzle. I know my tools better than theirs. The only way they beat me is in writing, I'm not a very good writer, so they win in the end.
NO ONE is 250 WPM.
150
Typo.
Was about to edit it, but chat kept loading the edit UI thingy.
150 is insane. Seriously, on typing tests I average 60-65 corrected for errors but never even peak past 75 or so.
16:43
Maybe you think too much before typing
I think far less than you think I do.
I'm much slower when typing and making up what I type, of course
The problem with the paper is that it isn't so simple. It's how you define efficiency, what you come up with as your model problem, how you define the average user, etc.
The Word user I know is faster in part because they are a better writer than I am.
I am still the fastest programmer because, well, <insert implied statement here>, and I'm more efficient with emacs than they are with vim.
I think the most important thing is being comfortable with your tools and enjoying them.
That is important.
I do think it goes without saying that word processors, in general...
16:47
BBL, some studying and some playing games
@pentavalentcarbon Are an ellipsis.
(sorry, had to hunt for it)
Are nicely colored?
no, are a giant dumpster fire
now go study
Jan
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> Are left out words
*goes for breakfast* *yes, at 6 p.m.*
@Jan ಠ_ಠ
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16:50
But here I was thinking that @M.A.R. was simply referring to:
> To err is human, to are is pirate.
@Jan btw I did read Citrus and am unimpressed
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17:32
=C
17:46
@Jan Too much like Nisekoi which I hated. Tsugumomo though...A+
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Jan
Oh well.
0
Q: I want to type the chemical structure of any sustance like benzene

Shantam vyas help me for type this typing work in word

Maybe typing it in LaTeX would be faster :D
Jan
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I need drugs to finish this project →
17:54
Hahaha
I need drugs to make more drugs ->
jesus
Jan
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I need drugs to see Jesus →
17:57
Hmm, surely we have a question on "what is the best software for drawing molecules" or something like that.
Maybe better to close as a dupe of that.
Jan
Jan
I hit unclear because I don’t see a question.
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Q: A Chemdrawing software?

AshuI would like to know about a Chemdrawing sotware for 2-d molecular structures. it should be mainly linux based (but if it supports other OS's then that would be great)

Hmm...
someone write a canonical question...like you
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A: Resources for learning Chemistry

Martin - マーチンSoftware ChemDoodle Commercial software for 2D and 3D molecular structures and diagrams and much more. ChemOffice Professional Commercial software for drawing molecular structures, 3D models and many more. Avogadro Free, Open Source for 3D models and computational chemistry.

I've never come across "not a real question" before.
Fancy close reasons you guys had in 2012.
18:01
ehhhhhhhhh I guess this is ok....
I thought so too.
I think the best course of action is to update the Resources thread and then close this as a dupe.
@AveMaleficum Simply lay a sheet of paper on top of your Mac and apply a pencil. — LordStryker May 14 '14 at 13:56
18:20
@pentavalentcarbon Huh, maybe I should give it a test too
19:01
0
A: What is charge density?

JoyIn relation to Coordination compounds, charge density can be defined as the ratio of the charge to the radius of the metal ion. Charge density is directly proportional to the stability of Coordination Compounds. E.g The ionic radius of metals Cu2+ and Cd2+ are 69pm and 97pm respectively....

O.O
But it's maybe a good rule of thumb
!!greet/@Mesentery
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It should probably be charge/(4/3 r^3 pi) or whatever the formula for the volume of a sphere was.
19:49
@M.A.R. feel like I've been protecting lots of questions recently
some of these >20k view questions are just magnets for bad answers
Shrug You're either overdoing it, or not overdoing it.
At least you're doing it.
@M.A.R. Hi, and Thanks for the welcome.
 
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Hello.
So I've recently decided I want to learn about biology and I've been reading a beginners book on it. I found out that my first class I'll have to take. At present I'm sort of trying to develop a learning path for myself. So should I continue studying my biology book and maybe get a primer book on chemistry?
@Zohan Do both? The more the merrier
The choices don't seem mutually exclusive to me
Beep beep. Today we had a mention of chem.SE on the mother meta, but it was a neutral mention.
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Q: Reputation not rewarded

Yb609 Why was I not rewarded with the reputation for the 3 upvotes?

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!!doubleflip/@Jan
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!!doubleflip/@Jan
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:36144171 ?
Now that Jan's successfully flipped, why?
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21:27
Wait, I was doubleflipped, so I’m back to normal, aren’t I?
@Jan No, that's not how it works
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!!doubleflip/@ᒋɐu
naJ@╰(゚x゚​)╯@Jan
Instead of deleting your old question, you could edit it - the edit will push it into a queue for reopening, and I would probably have reopened it too. Anyway, it's OK. By the way, you can format mathematical and chemical expressions on Chemistry.SE using MathJax; this post contains further details. I've done up a bit and will leave the rest for you. — orthocresol ♦ 18 mins ago
YOU ROBBED THIS PERSON OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE HIS OWN POST
21:29
FML
@orthocresol O.o
I guess I need to learn to read
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@Chemobot Wow, @Chemobot, that even pinged me O___O
@orthocresol Fear My Love?
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@orthocresol No, that was my comment ;þ
21:30
It's mine now ;D
@M.A.R. Flip M.A.R.'s Legs.
!!doubleflip//@M.A.R.'s legs
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BWAHHA BOT BORKED. It can't flip my legs
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@Chemobot how the …
Vitamin C has no legs, illiterate.
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!!doubleflip/Greengrocers’ apostrophes
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surely it should just use a comma
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Oh wait, does … &#x3b1; work in chat?
No it doesn’t .__.
!!doubleflip/Greengrocers, apostrophes
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21:31
But &#39;?
Hmpf!
!!doubleflip/Greengrocers' apostrophe
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LOL! =D
@Chemobot @Hipp !
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I wonder
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21:34
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Breaking Hipp's bot is easy
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@M.A.R. Too easy.
21:42
@M.A.R. I suppose. I am just trying to find someway to wrap things up in a neat bundle and see how everything relates. I'm trying not to overload myself but it's hard lol.

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