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05:12
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Hullo
 
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07:35
Whoa whoa whoa
+10000 @Hipp
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You're awesome.
I wonder . . . there is a not in Shadow's den that's hosted on the internet somewhere so it's always present in the room.
I'll ask him how exactly he does that, and we're good to go
BRB
08:21
Back
@getafix Hullo
@Hippalectryon Why wouldn't they allow it?
in Shadow's Den on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Jun 20 '15 at 11:56, by ProgramFOX
@nicael Amazon AWS instance, I make an SSH connection using PuTTY and then I execute commands.
CC @Hipp
@IͶΔ how do you do this?
@DeNiSkA Hover over the message, right-click on the down arrow, copy link address. Links in chat onebox.
1 min ago, by DeNiSkA
@IͶΔ how do you do this?
great! :)
Links to Wikipedia, Twitter, Amazon, site and site meta's questions, and a bunch of other things also onebox.
08:37
@IͶΔ How goes?
Good
What's everyone been up to lately?
Bots
Oooh interesting. actual physical bots...or the web trawling ones?
Web trawling ones. See above.
08:49
oh i see..
neat!
Do you code? @IͶΔ
Nope
Unless LaTeX counts as code
Ummm..can't say lol
I've been meaning to learn actually.
ahhh..if only there were a few more hours in a day :/
actually..I'd like have people here weigh in on this..if I were to learn to code, what would be a good language to learn? I'm looking for a) something "relatively" easy to get into b) should probably see some use in chemistry..
@getafix Python
Easy, check. Useful in science, check. Practical, check. Good, check.
Haha cool. was thinking the same.
Although.. I have a computation chem class a few sems later..and they seem to teach FORTRAN90; could probably get a head start on that?
and then move to python..what do you reckon?
09:15
Good idea.
Though it doesn't differ much. FORTRAN, Python, Java etc. are all based on C so they're similar in many ways.
Yup. Which is why i was wondering about the order in which I should approach them..go Python--> Fortran or the other way around
Doesn't matter
Get things rolling, and stuff will sort itself out
Fair enough.
If only I can steal time away from my netflix sessions now lol
There are a few legit cases.
\o
yo/
@IͶΔ Are there now? Any question, that could not live without it?
looking
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Q: Detect Polyethylene

Siddharth YadavHow can we detect polyethylene from a distance? The method should be mobile as I am thinking of employing it a mobile robot. I have no idea about it. Any suggestion or external link would be welcomed.

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Q: Computer killed by insecticide; what compounds are likely?

Tom ZychA friend of mine sprayed "Black Flag Home Defense" insecticide under her computer. It died immediately. I'm trying to figure out why, and how fixable it might be. I found an MSDS, but it only says what the active ingredient is, deltamethrin, 0.02%. Apparently everything else is proprietary and/o...

And a bunch of others.
Other tags aren't that well fit here.
@IͶΔ This one actually does not comply with the tag usage
Though I agree that maybe because of an unclear tag name or tag wiki, it's being misapplied a lot these days.
@Martin-マーチン (/¯◡ ‿ ◡)/¯ ~ ┻━┻
09:57
Yeah that's the problem... I came across it from a question where it was misapplied
@IͶΔ That's some table flip..
The very least that should be done is probably renaming it
Meta is a solution. A post with a title like "don't use [identification] for these questions"
@IͶΔ ┬─┬ ノ( ^_^ノ)
Or you could generalize it. Eat it. Twist it. The possibilities are endless!
@Martin-マーチン (/¯◡ ‿ ◡)/¯ ~ ┻━┻
10:00
hmmm.... I didn't want to go to meta just yet, that's why I am asking it here...
Well, IMO it either needs a new name
or needs to be retagged from a bunch of questions, and rewritten with a more explicit tag wiki.
Full of WARNING: SHARP EDGES
@Martin-マーチン So that's my opinion Mart, and I don't think any other meta regulars are likely to give feedback on this right now.
yeah, that's what I thought
so.... meta it'll be :(
BTW @Mart tell @Hipp how much you approve his bot's existence.
So we can have a billion commands.
What are you talking about now?
Scroll up
10:36
hmmmm.... @IͶΔ... so did I understand correctly, that @Hippa will create a bot, that mimics you?
That would be known as "The Terminator" ;)
I am almost certain, that machines already took over the world, but they wait, because we'll exterminate ourselves...
@Martin-マーチン What? Do I post random chemical images?
hmmm.... nah... guess you are an image...
10:54
@Mart how many times have I told you?
told me whut?
That you're an awesome lovely guy?
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Q: What is involved in this firey demonstration?

BobsonIn this rather shaky Facebook video (sorry I can't provide a better link), a science teacher takes a burning beaker of something and spills it out onto the floor. It then proceeds to shoot fire out in all directions, and we can see embers burning themselves out, leaving black ash of some sort. ...

[ident] is a legit tag. ^
@Mart I find it interesting that [reaction] doesn't annoy you but [ident] does.
ಠ_ಠ
@IͶΔ I am a bit crazy, but I am not completely bonkers; I know when my brain can't handle the hurt...
11:15
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A: GCMS Peak Identification: Online or Open Source / Free Programs?

MarzipanherzHave you tried the Golm Metabolome Database? It is a collection of GCMS mass spectra. The focus is on metabolites. However, on their webpage is the entry "Decision Trees". If you follow the link, there is the option to enter your own mass spectra information and receive a prediction of functiona...

Is this a decent answer?
I mean after the edits
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@IͶΔ: o/
\o
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If you want to get rep-rich in Physics SE, just ask questions on uncertainty Principle.
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in The h Bar, 13 mins ago, by user36790
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Q: Uncertainty in Uncertainty?

Udit DeyI was reading about how the Planck's Constant can be measured with LEDs, which made me think about this question. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle states that: $$\Delta x \Delta p \ge {\hbar\over2}$$ a.k.a, there is always some uncertainty while measuring things. This is a fundamental law. N...

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in The h Bar, 8 mins ago, by user36790
Just ask such old wine in new bottle sort of uncertainty questions even though without searching a bit of the otherwise gazillions of questions lying in PSE.
11:24
I suddenly feel like downvoting every question in Physics.SE.
Sadly, or maybe fortunately, I don't have the rep to do so.
user116211
@IͶΔ Agree.
user116211
They wouldn't research and just come on the plea that hey, I'm not a physicist but....
user116211
You don't have to be a physicist to either google or read a good book!
user116211
If still the problem persists, then come here, check old questions that appear when you are typing the title......
user116211
Hmmm..... world has changed a lot ;(
11:27
Also physicists have the poorest color tastes.
@IͶΔ yet not enough for you to boat up
user116211
@IͶΔ o.O
@Martin-マーチン Yeah, but not delete-worthy, amirite?
nah. I think it's a decent answer, to an ok question...
11:44
You're contradicting yourself. If molarity is one way of expressing the units of concentration, as you say, then it's not the same as concentration. — IͶΔ 2 hours ago
well put
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@Martin-マーチン OP is in catch-22 situation.
 
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16:21
o/
@IͶΔ AWS costs money :(
user116211
16:41
o/
@user36790 Btw feel free to tell me if you want me to award the bounty to one answer rather than the other
@Hippalectryon :(
When I type "molar mass of carbon dioxide" in Russian in Google, it calculates it for me. Cute.
Does not work in English though.
Same for "molar mass of water", with a nice picture of a water poured from a kettle.
16:57
2 upvotes away from a silver badge on ELL!
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A: Can "immortal" be used to describe someone that lives forever, yet can be destroyed?

IͶΔYes, and that's in fact what "immortal" mostly has meant. The etymology of the word "immortal" reveals late 14c., "deathless," from Latin immortalis "deathless, undying" (of gods), "imperishable, endless" (of fame, love, work, etc.), from assimilated form of in- "not, opposite of" ( . . . ) ...

@CowperKettle ?
@Hippalectryon Great! It probably depends on Google's language/country settings.
how to put cut on words on SE
17:14
test like so ?
--- word ---
without the spaces
hello
woah!!
rooms of SO are quite humilating!
on asking a simple question
in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 3 hours ago, by Rerito
@DeNiSkA Hang yourself
17:24
Thats rude
@DeNiSkA whats ur internet speed before and after FUP?
but they all there are having huge reputation
100mbps
and after FUP it gets to 4mbps
why?
@AdityaDev are you south indian?
100mbps? U r joking
I am not asking ur max alotted speed.
Im south indian
21mbps is the max speed in india for small scale purposes
thats 25mbps
17:31
how much do u pay?
btw, are u preparing for JEE?
@AdityaDev yes
Which year?
2017 and you?
2016 :D
repeater
have best results
good luck!!
chennai?
17:40
kochi
but i speak tamil
@DeNiSkA
18:19
@AdityaDev cool!
user116211
Ind won an epic match!
user116211
Just by 1 run!!
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History will remember this!!
user116211
Such type of match can also happen; I didn't know!
user116211
All due to MSD's presence of mind ;)
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@DeNiSkA You can use <strike>text</strike> at the main page.
<strike>hello</strike>
user116211
@DeNiSkA no, not here, but at the main SE pages.
oh!!
user116211
@DeNiSkA it was a footnote ;P
18:31
eee
user116211
21 mbps?
user116211
Never!
yes here 100mbps heeeee
user116211
My BSNL 3G Faster than thoughts provide......
user116211
7-8 mbps; that's enough for me.
18:33
I wish I had that much :c
user116211
@DeNiSkA :WTF!
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@Hippalectryon WTF!!
lol act is best
user116211
@DeNiSkA: Did you watch today's thriller match?
user116211
18:34
@DeNiSkA O.O
user116211
@DeNiSkA You are Indian, right?
@Hippalectryon which country
user116211
@Hippalectryon :{
18:36
France
france is so rich but internet is so poor
user116211
I thought only I was in hell.
@DeNiSkA Depends of the areas
we get killed when it winds a bit because fibernet doen't work in wind!
user116211
> Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n.
18:44
Best to reign in Heav'n and not serve in Hell.
19:55
(removed)
(removed by mods)
(Is the bot running)
(No I'm fixing it, I was using Manishearth's github bot that I modified, but it won't log in anymore keeps saying my password is invalid... :( )
It worked perfectly yesterday
I'm rewriting it from scratch (the login part)
(It's because you didn't close your parenthesis correctly)
no i removed that
20:05
$\color{gray}{\mathsf{(removed)}}$
Whut R U doink guyz?
@Mithoron Saying hello to you
\o
@IͶΔ o/
What bot is that?
A bot that does things.
Let's see if @Hipp can get it rolling.
It's probably gonna be a few more hours ;_; I have to recode the whole lgin thingy, and SE makes it rather tedious
20:10
We'll then configure it to do some boring stuff that should be done as well.
You need to log to OpenId then to SE then to the SE Chat then into the chatroom ._.
Give it a few commands.
Like a link to something with DOI.
Or that GIF thingy @Hipp could pull off.
It could also welcome new users.
And don't forget a "help" section.
Ok, keep it in mind for when I'm done haha
your are coding in what @Hippalectryon
20:12
in Charcoal HQ, Mar 4 at 12:03, by Sally
Project links: Blaze (GH) | SmokeDetector (GH) | Firestorm (GH) | metasmoke (GH)
CC @Hipp
@DeNiSkA python
@DeNiSkA In a computer
@IͶΔ Yeah that's created by manisearthr iirc, and it's his version that I didn't get to work :(
Can't play that in the chat though ;-)
20:20
Out of memory :(
<Bleep blop this message comes from a bot>
Yay \o/ Now I'll switch to another chat room for the bot to avoid flooding this one during the tests ;-)
What features should we have in a chat bot? Reply to this message and let me know.
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@Hippalectryon you are awesome!
i read transcript (awesome programmer)
20:32
I'm just programming in my spare time for fun :D I should probably be studying, but we had 8 hours of exams today so I need to do something else, like programming
@Hippalectryon No, the world needs more programmers. Keep doing it.
and dedicated like @Hippalectryon
20:50
Let's decide on what should be closed as homework. Please chime in the discussion!
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@Mart there begins the fun. ^
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Q: Let's decide on what we should close as homework

IͶΔThe homework close reason is a thing I click on often these days. Recently, we're close-voting questions as homework that are from a broad range of scope. Unlike what's being seen in that screenshot, we don't really have this documented anywhere. This question is on the verge of closing and ye...

21:24
what is that top 6% overall on your profile @IͶΔ
22:17
YAYYY :D
The bot is back online :3
!!img/butene
22:37
if you have two structural formulas identical in every way except there is a double bond between two carbon atoms would this not be an isomer because there is not equal amounts of hydrogen ?
@WDUK indeed
so what is the true definition of an isomer then
i thought they had to have the same amounts of molecules just arranged in different way
It's when they have the same chemical formula
i.e. the same amount of each atom
but one has less hydrogen
because carbon = carbon meaning theres one less hydrogen
@WDUK Ugh your original question was phrased a weird way so maybe I wasn't clear : indeed, they're not isomers
22:39
ohh sorry
my bad :P ok
ok i understand now
thank you for explaining
I'll put in back on in a minute
@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ Done
it's '/'
editing it won't work, you need to post a new one for now
I'm not monitoring edits for now
22:54
O_o you somehow broke it
Very weird
Once it's broken I need to rerun it
The error seems to be with some unicode encoding in your username haha (in the console I print every username-message)
!!img/DNA
I wanna see this thing draw DNA :D
Retry (it's back up)
!!img/benzene
!!img/benzene
grr
!!img/benzene
<An error occured : cannot identify image file 'mol.gif'. Check your molecule's name.>
:( wot
So now unicode doesn't break the script anymore, but somehow it breaks the molecule fetching part
yay \o/ it works now
@IͶΔ :DD
23:03
!!img/propane
Well, it worked in the test room :( but somehow it broke again ugh (unicode characters issues again)
I award myself the bot breaker badge.
I AM STUPID :((((
I was fixing the unicode in the message itself, but not in the usernames too ._.
@IͶΔ Also, you'll notice a nice addition to the bot :P
Try it now, it's back online, hopefully fixed
!!table
(ノ▼д▼)ノ ~┻━┻ ☆`
23:06
Now this I approve.
can some one explain why is this the mirror image
how do you know the axis to use to rotate
@WDUK Imagine your computer screen is the mirror
@WDUK Do you know what that black wedge is?
no i don't know
ain't learnt that symbol
Let me find a wiki you can read
23:08
all i've learnt is that chiral atoms are atoms bonded to 4 different groups
but they never really said what a chiral molecule is
ah thats way beyond what we have been taught
@WDUK Your hands are chiral. Even though their structure is the same, you can't
You can't say they're the same.
!!img/DNA
<An error occured : cannot identify image file 'mol.gif'. Check your molecule's name.>
Hmm too broad I guess
Btw @IͶΔ
so aren't all atoms chiral
or does it depend on what they are bonded to
23:11
If something isn't the same as its mirror reflection, it's choral
Chiral, damn autocorrect
wouldn't any thing in a mirror be the same though =/
No.
Search for a tutorial on chirality, it would explain it better with so,e shapes
Ugh I hate typing in mobile
i found one page on it but goes way beyond what my course taught me
@Hippalectryon have a star
Haha :-)
Also, notice how all the messages are updated using the edit function
!!img/benzene
23:14
@WDUK If you want to understand things, you shouldn't limit yourself to useless boundaries
!!IMG/@hipp
true
case sensitive @IͶΔ
i think whats confusing me is that there is chiral atoms and chiral molecules
@Hipp could you also make it case insensitive?
i don't understand that too well
23:15
Add some luxury commands too.
Done. !!img/azote
<An error occured : cannot identify image file 'mol.gif'. Check your molecule's name.>
But first priority is doing something so the bot runs 24/7 in this chat. @Hipp
!!img/aZOtE
<An error occured : cannot identify image file 'mol.gif'. Check your molecule's name.>
Oh it's not a molecule alright
!!img/benZEnE
!!img/pRoPane
23:17
Awesome
@IͶΔ Not sure how to do that myself though. During the week I use a hotspot wifi.
@WDUK Honestly I would've taught you myself if it wasn't 3:48 a.m. and I was.t on mobile
thats ok :P
im trying out kahn atm
@Hippalectryon Uploading to a cloud that doesn't throw errors?
@IͶΔ Well sure, if you know one :-)
23:19
NoErrorCould TM
Cloud, dammit
I HATE YOU AUTOCORRECT
Ok I've added a total of 210 table flips, should be enough :D
@IͶΔ Can you join chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/10121/test-room for a second ?
23:41
Hullo @long! Welcome to the Table!
is an alcohol functional group only shown as OH or is HO also considered alcohol?
@WDUK both are the same thing.
ah okay thanks
G'night everyone. I should close the curtains
Cya later
23:45
night :)

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