The Periodic Table - 2015-11-07

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1:27 AM

Hello all!

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4:49 AM

@ManishEarth Okay.. I'll have a look at your script and see if I can modify it a bit. You from IITB? Exams up, but I don't think that is what would keep you busy. :P

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6:27 AM

@WYSIWYG Yes, and exams just started, but I'm perpetually busy due to projects and open source things

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8:50 AM

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Q: How do you number equations

I have an answer that has a number of equations. Within the text of the answer I just want to refer to the number of the equation. I saw it on an answer somewhere, but I can find such an answer now. What is the markup?

9:24 AM

@ManishEarth That's nice. It is good to keep the mind occupied.

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12:22 PM

Hey seal.

12:41 PM

Hello tetracyclopentane.

What is that compound called

Ok, the IUPAC name is dodecahydropentaleno[1,6-cd]pentalene.

You know, about that answer I flagged

I guess, let's give him some more time to clarify with the OP...

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Q: Why isn't N2 a Lewis Base

$\ce{N2}$ has $2$ lone pairs but why is it not a Lewis base?

@Ortho is it somehow related to the fact that N2 is nonpolar?

I am not sure. I think it is just a horribly weak Lewis base because the lone pairs are too low in energy.

Right. Let's go look at some diagrams.

12:56 PM

I think the qualitative MO diagram isn't that helpful. You might have to do some calculations to find out the actual energies... which is something I can't do

I'm off for lunch, cya later `(.•.)´

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2:23 PM

@mart I think alcohol should be renamed to alcohols (plural) in line with amines carbonyl-compounds etc.

Martin - マーチン

2:45 PM

@Jan yeah, that sounds about right, but I am on my phone now, so no can do. You might have to remember me

@Martin-マーチン Can I flag a random post with alcohol for mod attention asking for the renaming of the tag?

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5:10 PM

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A: Definitive Guide To Removing Stains From Baby Clothes

Wash the garment in warm water with an enzyme detergent and oxygen bleach combo, such as Bio Kleen Oxygen Bleach Plus. To get rid of baby food stains, dunk the clothing in cold water, then soak the stain for at least 15 minutes in equal parts water and rubbing alcohol, which is safe for most fabr...

Spam? Yes, no, maybe?

It does advertise a product.

5:46 PM

@Jan If so, it's well-disguised.

6:33 PM

That electrochem question makes me sad

@orthocresol Which one?

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Q: Electrolysis, Concentration of Electrolytes

So it says the Chlorine gets discharged as the concentration of chlorine ions are higher than OH ions, but why don't the concentration applies to Na+ ??

concentration electrolysis

Standards of education are so poor.

Then I must be sad all the time. O.o

What do you mean?

Well, my IRL is always hateful of the educational system.

6:35 PM

Hmm... I see.

Well, hear my story. That question probably comes from a workbook for a national examination which people generally take when they are 17 years old.

Can anyone identify the non-English language in the picture in that post?

Yes, it's Malay.

It's not Indian.

But the stuff they teach is so simplified..

Well.

6:37 PM

The standard of English in the country is so poor...

I escaped when I was young.

Just look at how eagerly the students here learned octet . . . They thought they were learning something real. When they face something like NO, they come and tell me the molecule can't exist.

Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia

The Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia (SPM), or the Malaysian Certificate of Education, is a national examination taken by all fifth-year secondary school students in Malaysia, equivalent to eleventh grade in American's K–12 (education). It is set and examined by the Malaysian Examinations Syndicate (Lembaga Peperiksaan Malaysia). SPM is equivalent to the O-Level and is the second last public examination at the secondary school level before the entry into a tertiary level education at a university or other higher education institutions. The Sijil Tinggi Persekolahan Malaysia (STPM), being a pre-university...

Hah. That seems even worse than konkur.

hello @Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. !

\o

@Ortho so you're Malay?

6:40 PM

well, I am ethnically Chinese

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. is this your way of saying hi?

Boom, you're exposed. Now I'm gonna sell that info to NSIABI.

@TanMath No, my way is "hullo!"

:)

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. hullo! my codictator!

I am Malaysian. But the country's situation disgusts me. I was lucky and went over to next-door Singapore when I was 13.

There, people actually learn standard reduction potentials instead of just having a simplistic list of the electrochemical series.

6:43 PM

Ha, I knew you would disclose it earlier or later x3 @seal.

Do you know how close Malay is to Indonesian? @ortho

Well, I'm Iranian, and proud to be Iranian. But when I think of the system of the education here, excuse me . . .

Vomits

OK what were we saying? Aha. But when I think of the system of the education here, excuse me . . .

Vomits

@Jan Pretty close. You could speak Malay in Indonesia and get by pretty decently. There are some weird stuff that are entirely different though, like shoes: in Malay it's kasut, in Indonesian it's sepatu.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. enough vomiting!

@orthocresol Interesting =3 I love languages. A colleague asked me yesterday why I hadn't studied linguistics or something xD

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. How about university? Do you have any chance to go to another country?

6:47 PM

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Yeah, it's easy to be proud of a country and hate specific parts of it. Although you are more pressed to find something in some lucky countries than in others xD

@Jan You must love chemistry more than you do languages then :D

@orthocresol Actually, the universities here are not bad.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. but aren't you in high school?

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Oh ok.. In Malaysia, it's rubbish all the way from primary school to higher education. :D

@TanMath Hmm.

6:48 PM

@orthocresol No, but I hate learning mechanisms less than I hate learning words' translations ;)

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. ?

@orthocresol Well, our universities have turned into article-making machines.

@orthocresol Well, our universities have turned into ~~article~~ paper-making machines.

But thankfully, someone with some good ideas and talents can do something useful.

@Jan Yours too? Why?

I just corrected you ;)

6:51 PM

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. That's good.

What did the inept high school chemistry teacher say when his student asked him "can the octet rule ever be broken?"

@Jan (/¯◡ ‿ ◡)/¯ ~ ┻━┻ This isn't LO.

@orthocresol Is that a joke? If so, what's the answer?

@Jan "NO!"

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@orthocresol Weak punchline ;)

7:00 PM

@Jan Oh well, it was just a joke I came up with on the spot when I read what @ina said about the octet rule :D

Oh ^^

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

You know, I love the octet rule, but I take it to mean 'a stable compound will never have more than eight electrons per main group atom (two for hydrogen/helium).'

My name isn't ina anymore.

I've made better jokes in my life but I can't remember them offhand...

7:02 PM

Well, our chem teacher reminds me of @Loong.

He's a nice guy, and certainly not just a chem teacher. When I asked him "does this octet rule hold for all compounds?" he said "octet is something we came up with, not the nature."

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. @Ina stop pretending you're not @ina!

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. I have no clue what @Loong is like in real life, so I find it hard to compare @Loong to people I know from real life o.o

Huh. My first name was MARamezani, people called me MA. Then it changed to inazemaR.A.M. People called me MAR. Now I changed to MAR. People call me ina.

┬─┬ノ(ಠ_ಠノ)

@seal didn't even change his name, yet we call him @orthoseal.

(Did I ask before, and does @orthoseal ping you @ortho?)

It doesn't.

7:07 PM

@Jan No, and no, but I will see it anyway

Does @ortho-seal maybe work? *coming up with devilish thoughts*

Nope.

What an orthoshame D=

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@Ortho seal works.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Yeah, @ina but that's against spelling rules, isn't it @Loong?

7:10 PM

Hmm, @Ortho—seal

ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ

Emdash works, but it's wrong.

@Ortho–seal

Endash works. And it also can work by the punctuation rules.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. How did you know that it works? =O

So maybe @orthoseal?

@Jan Well, punctually, emdashes aren't preceded or followed by a space. So it should ping them.

@Jan I starred it, it was funny. How on earth did you ping me with that

It's a white space.

YESS!

Nope, it's actually a soft hyphen =3

I hate seeing the orange 4 next to the review queues' link, but not being able to do anything against that 4 being there because I reviewed all the waiting tasks D=

7:16 PM

@Jan That's evil..

@Jan shouldiblamecaching.com

Most annoying thing about getting to 10k.

@Loong No.

Well, kinda.

Oh wait, you're seeing before getting to 10k? O.o

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. I see it on German.

Yeah, it's 10k problemz™ alright.

@Loong It's not caching though. I reloaded a page to see it, entered the queues, it was there but zero tasks to review.

But why 10k?

7:19 PM

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Q: Review counts in top-bar and /review don't match

So far, I thought that the number shown in the orange box in the top-bar was the number of items available for review. However, when I acually visit /review, the numbers don't match: Note that top-bar shows 15 items (?) but the queues only add up to 8. Since I can't think of a reason for this...

bug status-bydesign review user-interface top-bar

i am back..

what is going on?

Hi, back.

Hey back.

@TanMath Trash talk.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. really?

@orthocresol Hmm.Who are you?

yllaer

orthocresol, Oxford, United Kingdom

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7:22 PM

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. okay @inaz!

@Jan oops, and I found a blue number there, reminding me to clear your flags

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. you claim @orthocresol is orthocresol, but I am @TanMath and you call me "back"? weird, right?

2 mins ago, by TanMath

i am back..

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. shall I get insulting?

@Loong xDDD Moments I love ;)

Hi @Tanback!

7:24 PM

@TanMath Yes.

@Jan how did that ping me?.

@TanMath Tis magic ;)

@Jan LOLOL

12 mins ago, by Jan

Nope, it's actually a soft hyphen =3

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. @Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Shhhhh D=

7:25 PM

TEH UNICODEZ (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. ┬─┬ノ(ಠ_ಠノ)

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. non of you are native english speakers to properly understand what "I am back" means... ಠ_ಠ

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. huh? what is the key?

@TanMath Actually, you didn't get the pun.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. i got it, it wasn't funny..

@Tan, no, you are to close-minded to see a pun when it hits you smack in the face.

7:28 PM

It's only funny when you want it to be.

@TanMath ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@ortho so you support the close mindedness of me?

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@Jan i understood the pun!

7:29 PM

(kicked)

And it wasnt funny!

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. don't kick your codictator!

(unkicked)

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. good!

@TanMath lighten up a bit, we're just talking rubbish here anyway :D

(╯⇀ᴥ⇀)づ︵ɥʇɐɯuɐ⊥@

7:31 PM

You know you could bow down to us lowly punners but aparantly, your back strained.

Now the rest of you are arrested for mocking your dictator! @Jan @orthocresol

@Jan why should I bow down to you mere citizens?

You never were a dictator, so we can't be arrested for mocking you @Tantator ;p

@Jan by calling me @Tantator, you show that you know I am the dictator!

I could call you @Tanperor, too, without that making you an emperor.

<-- The real dictator

7:33 PM

I wish I could call you @Tamperor, but that won't ping you afaik D=

Yeah, and hyphens don't help. (/¯◡ ‿ ◡)/¯ ~ ┻━┻

@Jan but why would you even call me that in the first place, apart from me being the emperor?

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. we are codictators! understood?

Chuckles

Bismuth oxygen tungsten to me!

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. ?

@ina, Boron.

7:37 PM

@orthocresol I wasn't spelling it the right way.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Oxygen.oxygen

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Methyl oxygen tungsten.

@orthocresol Boron uraniumt you should've said dioxygen hydrogen.

@Jan I dont get it!

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Yttrium?

7:40 PM

@TanMath Look uranium phosphorus a chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/3229/the-periodic-table

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Yttrium?

Yttrium oxygen uranium got iodinet.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Iodine'm uranium nitrogen sulphur uranium rhenium.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. yttrium einstenium!

@Jan hydrogen uranium hydrogen?

@Jan oxygen hydrogen...

@Jan Iodine'm sulfur uranium rhenium! oxygen potassium?

Tungstene hydrogenave successfullyttrium phosphorusuranoumsulfurhydrogened sulfuriodinellineonsulfurs to iodinets lithiummiodinets.

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7:47 PM

@TanMath Iodine silver Rheniume =3

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Iodine silver rheniume.

@Jan oxygen potassium..

And with that I'm going to prepare a nitrogen metallic residue sample.

@Jan tungsten astatine?!

Chemistry talk

13 mins ago, 11 minutes total – 21 messages, 4 users, 5 stars

Bookmarked 7 secs ago by Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

7:50 PM

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. To be honest, I didnt fully understand your last message...oops!

`(.•.)´

@TanMath Do some decoding.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. I tried.. I got "we have succesfully" and i couldnt get the next word!

Oh, it's 'cause I typo'ed "uranium".

@TanMath It says "we have successfully phosphorusuranoumsulfurhydrogened sulfuriodinellineonsulfurs to iodinets lithiummiodinets".

7:52 PM

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. oh.. I see.. then the word is "pushed"

@orthocresol i figured it out, okay?

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. my chat question on meta Biology.SE even shows up on the main page.. Maybe i shouldn't have written an answer to see what would have happened!

@TanMath Not sure what else will happen other than some comment upvotes.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. you think?

Other than the real meta users, the main users usually don't have anything to say but voting.

I guess..

@TanMath A meta-post showed up on the main site?

8:03 PM

@Jan It got three votes and went to the bulletin.

you guys all keeping quiet? @ortho @Jan @Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@Jan yes, my biology meta post showed up on the main site

@TanMath There is a limit to how much gibberish can go on.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. now 4

Oh, as in turned into a hot meta question?

Yah.

8:04 PM

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. you think you can start ruling me, codictator?

@Jan yep..

I can rule what I want.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. oh really? We are codictators! oxygen potassium?

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. if you don't understand, I will side with the citizens into overthrowing you!

yes @Jan @orthocresol ?

I vote to close @TanMath as primarily opinion-based.

Nice one, haha!

@Jan huh? How am I opinion based? I want to overthrow the dictator of this regime, you don't support me? you must be some sort of rich aristocrat, huh?

8:08 PM

Now @Tan wait for the horror . . . when I nominate in an election . . .

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. you can continue to laugh when you get overthrowed!

I wonder if anyone will vote for me LOL.

@TanMath BRING IT ON! (•_•)=ε/̵͇̿̿/'̿'̿ ̿

My vote's on anarchy.

If there are people in this chat whose words I will listen to, they are Mart, Martin and Martin-マーチン followed by a huge nothingness and maybe then followed by Ina and Loong.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Let's have a quick show of hands. In favour of @Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. ? Okay. Neutral towards the question? @Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. 's MARship rejected by anarchistic democratic vote-of-hands.

@Jan (•_•)=ε/̵͇̿̿/'̿'̿ ̿

@TanMath Did Putin do this?

8:12 PM

@Jan you don't trust me? (ಥ_ಥ)

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. no..@Jan has this method of rejecting dictatorship.. So i used it to reject you!

@Jan BTW, there are two Martins?

@TanMath Course I don't.

@Jan (ಥ_ಥ)

@Jan 😭😭

*pats @TanWannabeTator and gives him a bit of chocolate*

@Jan i don't like your chocolate

That's okay, I'll eat it myself them *chomps*

8:22 PM

@Jan How do you do that mentioning @ trick?

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. did you leave us again?!

@TanMath I told you it's magic x3

Mix a random metal, silver, iodine and carbon ;)

@Jan ;) what were you them saying about a soft hyphen?

8:40 PM

That was @ina!

@TanMath You can't do without me for a minute, now can you?

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. you can't go.. first we need to overthrow you! hehehe

2 hours ago, by Jan

Nope, it's actually a soft hyphen =3

@Jan see how it says "by Jan".. isn't that you?!

BTW @Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. what is your plan for TRE episode 2?

Sleeping.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. on your keyboard?! otherwise how would you even type that?

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. good night!

@Jan what about you? you hiding?

Sure ^^ Weighing my side product now nad then jumping home o/

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