The Periodic Table

Martin

11:00

but now I know

ManishEarth

@Martin oh nobody's fault :)

yeah, now you know

MARamezani

@santiago Done...Downvoted...Wait...The up arrow means "downvote", right?

ManishEarth

yes it does!

santiago

LOL

Martin

Alrighty... nice I got a status-complete :D

ManishEarth

11:03

heh

bear it well

Martin

@santiago tags look fine, maybe everyday chemistry too, but I don't know, that tag is so broad it can be applied to almost anything

MARamezani

@Martin I'm feeling jealous.

santiago

@Martin good thinking!

MARamezani

@santiago Tag it "everynight-chemistry"

Martin

@MARamezani NO!

Buttonwood

11:05

Or "(applied) radiochemistry"

santiago

or omg-that-scared-the-pineapples-out-of-me-chemistry

MARamezani

Or "somedangtag-idon'tcare".

Buttonwood

The future is bright, the future is orange ... or $\alpha$

Martin

It's already awful enough to keep track of existing nonsense tags

MARamezani

@Martin So let's add some.

santiago

11:07

he he he "that-damn-smoke-alarm-beeping-chemistry"

MARamezani

PERFECT LOGIC

Martin

I'll burn them without asking ;)

Buttonwood

I thought the tags get revised again, and again

MARamezani

What about the tag "chemistry"?

@Buttonwood See that angry guy in his car driving? He does most of the work.

Buttonwood

well, the name of the site itself does not imply any about chem?

Oh ... he is one of the chiefs ...

MARamezani

11:08

@Buttonwood Ahh, I think at this moment you need a pro tip:

> Never take MAR seriously, unless he says so.

Buttonwood

Maybe it is the first time in this chat room, so I have to learn it. Ok.

Martin

I am non of the chiefs, but I like to keep an eye on the tags

Please don't try to summarise your question with tags. For more information, see [meta.se](http://meta.stackexchange.com/q/18878/260760) and the [help].

That's what I use when I encounter dumb tags...

MARamezani

@Martin Sheesh, that's a new one.

Martin

There are so many tags, that still have no wiki, not even an excerpt.

santiago

hmmm 2 rep each.....

Buttonwood

11:11

@Martin I was not aware about this, either.

MARamezani

@Martin When I feel bored, I touch some of them.

Martin

I am feeling quite liberal to remove a couple of them, but if they have more than 3 questions, I'll ask on meta first

Alrighty, time to weekend... very looong weekend... until next wednesday... no work

Have fun everyone...

:x

Gowtham

you too

MARamezani

Have fun!

Martin

upsi... wrong window

MARamezani

11:12

Save some of it for me...

Martin

Haha, I might come on drunk or some...

santiago

take care @Martin!

Martin

i am creative then...

MARamezani

Okay then...no thanks!

Martin

tonight is Karaoke....

so bye, need to food first

ChemExchange

11:18

@ManishEarth Then why is MARamezani's comment still out there?

It conveys the same message to santiago.

It was posted after mine.

Or does someone has to flag each comment which he/she feels is obsolete?

MARamezani

@ChemExchange Hullo

I dunno.

Gowtham

@santiago i think i got an answer for the smoke detector thing, posting in a few

santiago

@Gowtham awesome!

MARamezani

@Gowtham Way behind your back with downvotes!

santiago

@ChemExchange whats been conveyed to me now?

MARamezani

11:28

@santiago You deserve some downvotes because you lol too much.

ChemExchange

@ManishEarth And just an off-topic question, do mods have to be online atleast once a week or something? Since F'x is a mod who can't be helpful at all since his profile says that his last seen is 2 months back.

MARamezani

@ChemExchange F'x is most probably busy because she's (I think it's a she) busy with PhD stuff.

ChemExchange

@santiago

MARamezani

@ChemExchange And mods don't need to visit.

ChemExchange

@MARamezani I had asked santiago why he says this question was HW, and so did your comment. It would have been better had he not used thank you for expressing it politely in his last comment. As if I was rude. — ChemExchange 19 hours ago

MARamezani

11:31

@ChemExchange Did you see my reply?

@ChemExchange His saying that I'm polite doesn't mean you weren't.

santiago

sheesh...

MARamezani

SHEESH!

@santiago Please tell me I'm rude!

@Chem is slaughtering us here!

santiago

This partly sums it up

2 mins ago, by MARamezani

@ChemExchange His saying that I'm polite doesn't mean you weren't.

MARamezani

@santiago Finish it!

ChemExchange

@MARamezani I am not talking about santiago here. Anyway, he was a nice guy, I don't know what happened to him. He started leaving snarky comments too.

MARamezani

11:36

@ChemExchange Hmm?

Examples?

santiago

and I just read the last comment, I had just been targetted by another member, and I had also come from physiotherapy that day so was tired

I am just human

MARamezani

@santiago LIAR!

ChemExchange

@MARamezani On this post: chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/29598/…

MARamezani

@ChemExchange Let me see.

@ChemExchange Oh, the deleted comment?

Well, let me out it this way:

A homework dropper thinks we should be their servant.

And do their homework for them.

ChemExchange

@santiago which last comment?

MARamezani

11:39

"Hah! That site is full of dolts! I just made them do my homework"

And when @san says I'm bothered with their ignorance, he is telling the truth @Chem.

@ChemExchange The last comment on that question.

santiago

@ChemExchange i had just read @MARamezani's comment and after being harangued here in chat and after a painful day - I was happy to read a polite message

MARamezani

@ChemExchange ^ That.^

As I said, someone called @santiago a spammer.

ChemExchange

Wasn't I polite enough?

Gowtham

he never meant you were rude, is the point

MARamezani

@ChemExchange You were.

Gowtham

11:43

i have a small issue, if i give a link that downloads a pdf to your pc/laptop than going to a link , is that allowed in an answer, cos i cant find the damn paper

MARamezani

The point is, @santiago can't ping two people at the same time.

santiago

as I said, I read the last (=latest) comment that was directed at me, I was tired

ChemExchange

My original comment was: And why do you think this is homework-like question?

MARamezani

And, his not mentioning you doesn't mean you weren't polite!

ChemExchange

I intended to know what was the reason since I didn't know about those type of cases.

And I wonder why the person who flagged my comment didn't flag the rest!

Gowtham

11:44

@ChemExchange He probably dint even read your comment , and did not intend that you were rude , rather someone else was being rude , i dont know why yours was deleted , peace

MARamezani

@ChemExchange Being flagged as obsolete isn't a bad thing.

ChemExchange

@Gowtham Wasn't the flagging biased then?

MARamezani

I mean for a comment. :}

santiago

does it really matter? My comments go missing all the time (I think @MARamezani takes them and stores them in his nest)

MARamezani

@santiago How else do you think I earned deputy?

santiago

11:46

I knew it!

MARamezani

Kidding.

I earned Deputy thanks to ADG.

Gowtham

@ChemExchange I dont know , honestly all i can say is let it go

so guys ,

3 mins ago, by Gowtham

i have a small issue, if i give a link that downloads a pdf to your pc/laptop than going to a link , is that allowed in an answer, cos i cant find the damn paper

MARamezani

@ChemExchange It really doesn't matter. Because it isn't serious,

in this case at least.

@Gowtham It's allowed.

I've seen cases where people did.

santiago

@Gowtham perhaps provide a citation to the paper without a link as an option

MARamezani

@Gowtham I thought this message was related to the discussion, and I got confused...

@santiago No, providing the link is fine.

ChemExchange

11:48

I don't know who flagged it but whoever did probably didn't know the meaning of obsolete.

MARamezani

@ChemExchange Did you get a mod warning on it?

ChemExchange

And having just my comment flagged makes me feel the bias rather clearly.

Gowtham

its like this , i got this pdf from google when searching, its auto download , i searched for the same , i think it may be a conference paper or sth , this is the link

MARamezani

@ChemExchange As I said: In this case it doesn't matter. Even if your comment was flagged as something else. The main reason was its being obsolete.

ChemExchange

Then do you have a logical reason for Why did your comment didn't get flagged?

MARamezani

11:51

@ChemExchange No.

ChemExchange

Then do you see the bias?

MARamezani

Heh.

WHY DOES IT MATTER?

The flagging didn't do any harm to you.

Not that it will.

santiago

comments come and go - they are ephemeral 3rd class and unimportant

MARamezani

A-ha!

santiago

comments have no effect on rep, no effect on the site etc

ChemExchange

11:57

Well, it might be so for you @santiago. But I just realized that there exists a bias.

MARamezani

No effects on having effects.

@ChemExchange Not everyone is here for pure reasons.

But I'd say all of the active users in this day are nice guys.

ChemExchange

But if I take that he indirectly wanted to say that I was rude, then IMO he looks like the biased flagger.

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Q: Density g/cm3 of bleached viscose

I can find in literature what the density is for untreated viscose, but not for viscose that is bleached. Does this change the density? And what is the density for bleached viscose?

homework

0

Q: Why is textile more water absorbent after bleaching?

After a bleaching test the material is more absorbent than before. What is the reason for this?

homework

0

Q: Specify the formula of the product X_n Y_m

During a chemical reaction, equal moles of two diatomic molecules $X$ and $Y$ are allowed to react to form one gaseous compound $X_{n}Y_{m}$. After the reaction is complete, it was observed that the density of the product formed is 1.50 greater than the density of the reactant mixture. Here is ...

homework reaction

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Q: Which has higher priority according to Cahn-Ingold-Prelog priority rules?

Does vinyl or secondary butyl have higher priority, and why? According to my textbook, vinyl has higher priority than isopropyl, because an atom which is connected by a double bond can be treated as two identical atoms (one of them is just an imaginary atom). How about vinyl and secondary butyl? ...

organic-chemistry homework nomenclature

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Q: Resonance structures of N2O

There was a question in one of my exam papers to draw the resonance structures for $\ce{N2O}$. But the resonance structures I drew were not given marks. The top 2 structures are the ones I drew and the bottom 3 are the ones in the marking scheme. I have a doubt that whether my structures are un...

homework bond resonance

santiago

@ChemExchange please do not ascribe intention to me

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MARamezani

12:06

@ChemExchange You can't assume everything.

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ChemExchange

Alright @santiago

true @MARamezani

santiago

I will say it one more time - I was tired (after all day medical procedures), I looked at the last comment in that comment string saying my name - which was @MARamezani, I had been harangued by a member here in chat - so I was happy to see a polite comment after all the nonsense directed at me in chat.

MARamezani

Hope it works now.

Guys, I just made homework questions to be posted like messages.

So if they need closure, we'll close them immediately. (If we're here)

santiago

There is nothing more to it than that, nothing at all - no great conspiracy, no "indirect statements"

MARamezani

12:10

@santiago Are you sure...?

:}

santiago

yup, quite sure

ChemExchange

Good!

Do mods check out the context before deleting comments? @ManishEarth

santiago

@Gowtham awesome answer! I am currently vote capped! lol - I will upvote (as it is a great answer) and read it thoroughly

Gowtham

@santiago tanks

ChemExchange

Goodbye guys!

Gowtham

12:21

@ChemExchange cya laters

ChemExchange

@Gowtham I shall come back later when @ManishEarth answers those questions and then probably write a meta post. Until then bye.

MARamezani

12:35

@ChemExchange Of course!

@ChemExchange Bye!

Freddy

13:25

The NEW Periodic Table Song (In Order)

►

ADG

14:19

@MARamezani MAR

MARamezani

@ADG Hullo!

ADG

@MARamezani wassup?

MARamezani

@ADG Not much...Getting on with the life.

And studying for the math exam.

ADG

@MARamezani req any help?

MARamezani

Nah. Thanks. It's just the intro to matrices.

Gowtham

14:30

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Q: Hybrid orbital is an actual solution of Schrodinger's equation or only a heuristic?

According to Wikipedia's article about orbital hybridisation: [...] today it is considered an effective heuristic for rationalising the structures of organic compounds. [...] Hybrid orbitals are assumed to be mixtures of atomic orbitals, superimposed on each other in various proportions. ...

hybridization

i could find the answer with a google search: Are hybrid orbitals real , Off-topic ?

ADG

@Gowtham justahypotheticalconcept

Gowtham

@ADG i mean it shows no effort ..

MARamezani

@Gowtham Sad...Not researched questions don't get closed on chem.SE.

Let's downvote.

Gowtham

hmm

ADG

14:50

very bad.

he just don't understands and wishes for help.

MARamezani

OH! We're on the brink of 8k questions.

@ADG Downvotes aren't threats. They don't hurt. They simply say

> This question doesn't show research effort...

Which it seems so to me.

ADG

he researched but can't understand.

MARamezani

@ADG No, he just read a sentence of Wikipedia, and then a question burst his mind.

Kay, let's ask this in chem.SE

instead of Googling.

Also, I specifically didn't like to see that question from that user.

ADG

bye

MARamezani

Bye!

Gowtham

16:20

unclear ?

0

Q: Fragmentation from mass spectrometry

Take a look at this spectra: http://sdbs.db.aist.go.jp/sdbs/cgi-bin/direct_frame_top.cgi The second highest peak is at 58 m/e. Where would it come from given the structure?

mass-spectrometry

MARamezani

@Gowtham Homework.

Gowtham

I clicked the link, but never saw no spectra, only bunch of boxes to enter numbers O.o

MARamezani

16:36

@Gowtham Right!

ManishEarth

18:44

@ChemExchange We don't always trawl through sister comments to delete things. It wasn't flagged, we might not notice it

@ChemExchange Sometimes mods take a break

@MARamezani F'x is a he :)

MARamezani

@ManishEarth Too bad.

ManishEarth

@ChemExchange Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Comments are low priority

MARamezani

@ManishEarth He (?) was taking this whole thing too seriously.

Stack Exchange

19:30

0

Q: what is the effect of water on acids and bases?

If we are titratin $\ce{HCl}$ with $\ce{NaOH}$ and $\ce{HCl}$ is in the beaker. We added water to $\ce{HCl}$. What is the effect of water present in beaker on volume equivalence and pH equivalence at the equivalence point.

homework titration

MARamezani

20:08

Hullo @dsolimano!

I surely drag some Tavern guys here!

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