The Periodic Table

Gowtham

08:50

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Q: What would happen if I mix salt and sugar in a cup of water?

If I mix water in a cup with sugar at some stage the solution will become saturated and no more sugar will dissolve into the water. If I now add salt to the solution will the salt dissolve into the water or is the solution already saturated? I have not tried an experiment as I cannot figure out ...

MARamezani

@Gowtham Then you have a solution of salt and sugar.

Hullo, BTW!

Gowtham

hi , yes intuitively i thought salt can dissolve in a saturated sugar solution, but i couldnt find much online to support this . Probably i will wave hands and say supersaturation occurs :D

MARamezani

I think I'll experiment, when I'm done with this ice cream.

Martin

@MARamezani A perfect waste of sugar and salt....

MARamezani

Yes. I think we got some extra at home.

Hullo to you too!

Martin

08:57

@MARamezani Congratulations on your new responsibility !( ^_^)!

MARamezani

@Martin Tanks!

Martin

Haha...

your welcome... how's your day?

MARamezani

Hmm, let me guess...15:57 there?

Martin

yeas, about...

MARamezani

So, 16:27?

Martin

09:05

narp... it says 606 on my computer clock... but that might be wrong...

nice meta post btw.

MARamezani

What meta post?

Martin

think long and hard and you will remember :P

The short answer response of course

MARamezani

Haha, the new answer?

I know, right?

I'm tending to write weirder and weirder answers.

Martin

meeehhh... i think they are alright

MARamezani

And the more I do, I love writing long answers with a conclusion even more.

Haha, I ran into this message from Philipp:

Sep 2 '14 at 20:11, by Philipp

@LordStryker Oral examination for organic chemistry labratory: Talking about aromatic compounds and writing down the structure of benzene. Then the student asks the golden question: Why is there a big oxygen atom inside the cyclohexane ring :'O

Martin

09:09

I like short, well researched answers, the less time I spend on reading it, the better... still wanna take home the message...

@MARamezani Yes, this is a very common one...

MARamezani

@Martin That's why I always try to put a conclusion there.

Gowtham

i think giving a tl;dr section at start of a long answer works well

Martin

both will work

I always want to write short answers, but then I only pick the big questions.

Ron does a good job with short answers...

MARamezani

Yes. Also the format of short answer is: and then long answer is: works fine.

Hmm, $\ce{H2SO4}$?

Nope, doesn't work yet.

Martin

$\require{mhchem}$

MARamezani

09:15

Huh?

Martin

$\ce{H2SO4}$

wurks

MARamezani

Let me see: $\ce{H2SO4}$

Oh, it does now! Yay!

@Martin Is that the German for works?

Martin

you need \require{mhchem} to activate it

@MARamezani nope... that's just fun...

Is hullo an official greeting in Iran?

MARamezani

I know...Ooooh, so let's try this:

Gowtham

lol

MARamezani

09:18

$$\ce{LiOH + HCl \rightarrow LiCl + H2O}$$

@Martin It's the official greeting in the universe.

Dunno if that double displacement occurs.

Martin

Ahhh... I see

MARamezani

@Martin Wait! Is this a trick question? Argh! Fell for it...

Martin

you know you only need -> in mhchem for arrows

Gowtham

\ce{LiOH + HCl -> LiCl + H2O}

MARamezani

I know, but it ain't nerdy...

@Gowtham You forgot the dollars!

@Mar is chemfig available in chemistry?

Gowtham

09:23

$\ce{LiOH + HCl -> LiCl + H2O}$

hm nice

MARamezani

@Gowtham A-ha!

Martin

\rightarrow produces too short arrows...

MARamezani

Well, I'm only 16, so!

Martin

@MARamezani you mean in mathjax?

ctan.org/pkg/chemfig

MARamezani

I meant...yeah, back at chem.SE.

Martin

09:26

@MARamezani Haha, that would be brilliant, but it is not implemented in MathJax...

MARamezani

NOOOO!

Martin

$$\mathcal{M}_{ath}\mathrm{J^{a}X}\neq\LaTeX$$

MARamezani

Yeah yeah, you always go on saying that in meta.Chem... :P

ADG

@Martin hello, hope ou understand that my past post of ignoring were just pointing at a possiblity not a personal hatred

MARamezani

If I was in ELL's chat, I would've faced a why you little...! response

@ADG Hullo!

Anything interesting I missed?

Martin

09:29

@ADG Hi, sure, I was just clarifying that I am not ignoring people.

ADG

@MARamezani do'nt you have anything in the real world since you're lamost always here? aren't you wasting your precious time.

@Martin would you mind helping me with some quetsions?

MARamezani

@ADG I'm studying organochem at the same time ya know.

People in internet can do more things than one.

ADG

@MARamezani tip from me: Try to concentrate on one thing.

@MARamezani otherwise it may be very harmful, really.

MARamezani

@ADG Why when I can concentrate on more than one thing?

ADG

@MARamezani advices are not orders and you can do what you wish.

MARamezani

09:31

Oh, duty calls guys! Later! Have to go....

ADG

@Martin since you are not replying, I am assuming you're offline and going bye.

Gowtham

you can just post the question and hope anybody replies :P just saying

Martin

@ADG Of course I would, I am currently trying to figure out how to do the ChatJax with mhchem enabled at startup

@MARamezani bye then...

What the frontdoor, there is an entire SE dedicated to VI... how awesome...

Martin

11:12

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Q: MathJax in chat (ChatJax offshoot)

This is an offshoot of ChatJax, which enables MathJax along with mhchem on chat. Copy the text below: javascript:(function(){if(window.MathJax===undefined){var%20script=document.createElement("script");script.type="text/javascript";script.src="https://d3eoax9i5htok0.cloudfront.net/mathjax/lat...

discussion mathjax

MARamezani

11:51

@Martin I already saw it.

I'm BACK! (Oh no)

Martin

12:05

@MARamezani Well you should put that post on the right side, so that everyone can use it, instead of the version, where no mhchem is enabled.

MARamezani

@Martin As you wish!

Martin

Awww noo that looks really dumb only the link, nobody will understand what it means...

let's try again...

MARamezani

So, hmm, maybe we should type the text here?

Martin

ChatJax (LaTeX in Chat) with enabled mhchem

This one is better I guess

Werks!

MARamezani

Dunno. I think @ADG'll feel hurt if I don't pin his. :}

Martin

12:10

$$\Huge\color{red}{\text{Science - It works!}}$$

leave it pinned ;)

Del Pate

14:39

Hello chemists!

I just saw that this question came up in the Hot Network Questions.

3

Q: Why is lead radioactive?

Why is Lead (Pb) radioactive? Radioactivity refers to release of alpha beta gamma rays. What property of Lead makes it so?

radioactivity

How common is this? I had never seen Chem.SE questions out there.

Stack Exchange

16:44

1

Q: Chemistry Site Design

I’m Kurtis, senior product designer at Stack Exchange. First, I wanted to congratulate you because this site is now starting the process of moving out of beta to become a fully-graduated site! Well done! Graduation and Your Site Design Graduation comes with a few perks. We have already started ...

discussion featured design

MARamezani

Top recent news: Chemistry site design

2

@StackExchange WHOHHOOOOOOO!

I love this.

I think we'll be graduated some time soon!

ringo

22:38

@MARamezani hey, I've been wondering, do you have to have some sort of special permissions to post the "this is a homework question" comment? Or can I do this as well?

MARamezani

Hullo @Ringo!

There are no permissions.

Ya know, some months ago I just got very sick of homework dropping.

ringo

@MARamezani well then my only question would be how do you post a link in the comments like you can in the answers?

MARamezani

They weren't going to stop, so I wrote a template for myself.

ringo

I feel ya

MARamezani

Now, all I need to do is copy-pasting this:

This is a [homework](http://meta.chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/141/how-do-i-ask-‎h‌omework-questions-on-chemistry-stack-exchange) question. We have a policy which states that ‎you should show your thoughts and/or efforts into solving the problem. It'll make us certain that ‎we aren't doing your homework for you. Otherwise, this question may get closed.‎

It's that easy.

And then I realized I'm not the only person who uses templates.

ringo

22:41

Hmm. I'll forge one of my own so I'm not stealing 1 minute of your life's work.

Thanks a bunch!

MARamezani

More precisely, 30 seconds.

@ringo Hmm hey, you already stole my last last profile pic!

ringo

Clearly I have underestimated your abilities

MARamezani

@ringo This. Is. Only. The. Beginning. MWAHHHHAAHHHHHHHHA!

ringo

Yeah! I picked it, and only then did I realize how similar it was to yours, but by then you had already changed it

MARamezani

@ringo BTW, you're from India too?

ringo

22:44

No, I'm in the United States.

MARamezani

Thanks God!

Hmm, what's your age? (Mainly I wanna know this to know who I'm talking to)

ringo

I'm 18. I'm a senior in high school. Leaving for college next year to study biochemistry.

@MARamezani (this would probably explain the lack of sophistication in all my answers)

MARamezani

We get people with different colors. Guess Kurtis was right after all.

@ringo Dude, I have to go hide somewhere now!

ringo

For shame!

MARamezani

I'm 16!

ringo

22:48

Huh

I'm scared to see what you'll be capable of when you're older

MARamezani

Me too.

ringo

@MARamezani Well--I'll see you amongst the stacks, friend

MARamezani

@ringo O thy what do thoust mean?

ringo

I thought you had to go?

MARamezani

Well, I would've, but I'm downloading Tex Live and it's 3:20 a.m. here.

ringo

22:52

Haha! Now you're me last night! It's 5:50 p.m. where I am

MARamezani

Screw sleeping

2

ringo

Preach!

My ultimate goal is to transcend sleep. Oh how I look forward to that day.

MARamezani

Well, Martin had some sleeping problems too the other day.

So some evil guy is hunting down chemists' sleep.

ringo

What should we do to stop him?

MARamezani

Sleep. Just, not now.

BTW if you ever wanted to venture outta chem.SE to other SEs I recommend ELL, if you're not already a user in.

ringo

23:00

I am a member, as a matter of fact, but I'm not very confident in my own grammar.

I feel as though I'll be attacked if I slip up.

MARamezani

If you're a native speaker, then you're a demi-god there.

@ringo But yeah, you'll be.

ringo

I'll just have to be very careful how I choose my questions.

MARamezani

@ringo I was talking about answers.

ringo

@MARamezani haha! So was I

I guess this is what I was talking about--slipping up and all

Say, what is your native language anyway?

MARamezani

A weird dialect of Turkish.

But I'm Iranian.

ringo

23:04

And you learned English over the internet?

MARamezani

But yeah, mainly over the internet.

And some classes.

Damn that chat bug!

ringo

Impressive!

MARamezani

Dunno, but I'd say not really.

ringo

Hey! The senior design officer just floated in! Hey @KurtisBeavers!

MARamezani

Hullo @Kurtis!

Kurtis Beavers

23:07

Hello

Just checking in

ringo

Things are running quite smoothly here

@MARamezani (or stickily you might say)

MARamezani

Not everyone has heard of the beginning of the ~~apocalypse~~.

@KurtisBeavers Dunno, chemists are weird in chats.

I'm expecting you're expecting we're expecting some things about design, huh?

Sometimes chemists go all oooh! I want to haz taht shiney thingies!!!. But now, chat is quiet @Kurtis.

Kurtis Beavers

I jump around these chatrooms quite a bit. It's really interesting to see the different communities and how the culture varies from subject to subject.

MARamezani

I bet Martin hasn't see all of this yet.

ringo

Oh? and how is the chem culture relative to the others?

MARamezani

23:10

@ringo Awful? (When I'm around)

Kurtis Beavers

Great. It's those mathematicians you have to worry about.

The designers are snobby.

MARamezani

This doesn't provide an answer to the question. To request clarification from the author....

Once you have enough rep, you can comment on any post. XD

@KurtisBeavers BTW I happen to oscillate around liking that green bg and not liking it.

Dunno, but I fear I might get tired of looking at it soon.

ringo

@MARamezani what would you suggest as an improvement to this?

MARamezani

@ringo I think that's subjective-ish, but I'd liked to see more blue in the main page.

Kurtis Beavers

@MARamezani you should mention it in the post and see what other think. We tried a couple different directions and there might be a better solution that we haven't thought of yet.

MARamezani

23:16

@KurtisBeavers Hmm, well, after some time. I think I'm too sleepy to write anything accurate now.

But the green and the accepted-answer color seemed too identical.

Even with all of the creativity put into everything.

Oh, I like the blue color with the RGB code: #123456

Maybe the questions' color could be something like it?

Kurtis Beavers

There's some time to think about it. We like to give the community some time for everyone to chime in before we make the first round of revisions

MARamezani

Still, I'll be posting something in there about this. Tanks @Kurtis.

Kurtis Beavers

Oh, but we do have a few rules, the accepted answer has to be some variety of green. That's one of those things we try to keep consistent from site to site, so that people learn the same convetion.

MARamezani

@KurtisBeavers BTW Martin has got some taste on design. Maybe he's playing the new minesweeper game too much.

Kurtis Beavers

I look forward to getting all the feedback and launching the site!

MARamezani

23:20

@KurtisBeavers Precisely. There are some things we (i.e. you) can't change.

@KurtisBeavers So, it'll get launched when you give a thumbs up to the SE devs?

Kurtis Beavers

Oh, i misread your comment above, you were referring to the question title. Yeah, that could be blue.

We'll do a round of revisions, and have to build out a couple assets. But then I'll publish the new CSS and assets on our production server.

MARamezani

It would be a peculiar mix - Just like a lab!

@KurtisBeavers Hmm, is it only you who works on the design?

Kurtis Beavers

We have a team of designers that's growing.

There are six of us now, but only 2.5 of us work on the community Q&A side of things.

MARamezani

Well tanks guys for everything!

I think I should either hibernate or caffeinate now.

Kurtis Beavers

Alright. Have a good night.

MARamezani

23:26

Have a nice time listening to our nagging about the design!

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