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12:09 AM
In that case, we've strayed (maybe only slightly?) from the path, based on the close vote queue.
It wouldn't help or hurt the content problem, which currently can only be solved by attracting more experts...
 
1:09 AM
I'll still say that with our close reason, we have been dumping low effort questions into homework, when it should be the reverse. Instead of telling people their question is homework (when it is not), and linking them to a large document explaining "what homework is", we should be linking them to a page that tells them how to show effort (aka, how to do the basic research before posting a question)
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It will help the small minority of genuinely interested question asker, who sometimes don't actually know how to show effort. Fwiw, the homework policy does not explain how to show effort either.
 
Make one
 
Well you can have guessed that I already have a complete draft ready. Though I'm hesitant to post it directly on meta without having a pre-discussion on it in chat first. I've been holding off the pre chat discussion for two weeks now, because the activity has been low. If all the regulars agree on a time and day, we can have a discussion.
I'll post a link to the draft once I get on PC, if anyone wishes to have a reading beforehand.
 
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1:49 AM
@GaurangTandon Absolutely correct. When I first came here, I didn't know what to do. I got, "Show your efforts". Okay. But, how do I do that? How do I frame a question then? Should it be what I thought? But, what if what I thought is wrong? Every new user's doubts.
 
2:25 AM
@DivyankaChaudhari yup, precisely. Moreover, only a few users have the patience and ability (like you) to actually stick around a bit more and try to figure out the complex policies of the place they're in. Sadly, the policies are more complex than they need to be.
 
Juuuuusssst post it
Meta is for discussion
 
 
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7:21 AM
Oh boy
@Gau's taking on the big ones
Beware, it's not as easy as you think
 
7:46 AM
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8:18 AM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ hehe, yes sir. i too know it's a big one, and so i've done all my homework. that means reading every single meta post about homework at least twice in the past month. that, and i have been slowly compiling my thoughts into a big markdowned post, incorporating pretty much all of the frustration that's been discussed over the past two years. i'm still hesitant to post on meta without first having some chat discussion though
 
8:48 AM
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9:03 AM
Hi Piomicron, welcome to Chem.SE! Take the tour to get familiar with our site. Your question seems to be too many questions bunched up together, it would help to split it up into distinct questions that can be posted separately. Thanks! — Gaurang Tandon 6 hours ago
 
9:41 AM
I linked to it yesterday (see above).
 
Oops, sorry :(
They have the blog post "pinned" in the hbar.
 
10:08 AM
@pentavalentcarbon agreed, the content issue is separate. Well, seems like we’re going to be discussing HW first...
 
11:05 AM
apparently, someone asked me to review their answer, I logged in and the comment was gone
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some chemist please help this person out, I don't think he found the downvote very motivating
 
-1 because he spews this model about 8 electrons being arranged at the vertices of the cube in many of his answers. This is pseudoscience.
 
oh, please do comment and let them know, whenever you're free
 
No, not really. I don't want to have an argument about it.
 
okay
@orthocresol so when will we discuss this? first in chat or directly in meta?
 
anything
 
11:15 AM
okay, i'll do a final proof-read, and post a link here by tomo
 
 
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1:06 PM
Whenever I see the cube-vertex-electron thing, I think of Time Cube, and thinking of Time Cube makes me think of Thyme Cube.
 
1:22 PM
@pentavalentcarbon wow, I don't really understand what the fuss on that first site is all about. If they are really worried about having 24hrs named as "one day", then they should just name 6hrs as one day, and 24hrs as day², day', or maybe something more creative. That's it.
Regardless, both of these sites really need to tone down their speech and make the content more sensible and comprehensible :P
 
The first site is legendary
> (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧ NEW BELIEVERS OF CUBIC TIME
> Try My Belly-Button Logic
 
That is the weirdest thing I've possibly ever heard xD
 
And I just commented on a post by someone named thyme. Checkmate.
 
@GaurangTandon I'm at my question limit for Chemistry, and I really need all of these answered. — Piomicron 7 mins ago
Does anyone know what a question limit is? Can anyone help this fellow out? I don't think my response is as good as it should have been, because i know of a question ban, not a limit
 
 
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Do we close vote spam?
 
@AvnishKabaj Flag instead as spam, moderators will take care of it.
 
@AvnishKabaj i dont get the joke
 
4:14 PM
yeah just flag as spam, no need to cv
I mean, you can, but it's a waste of your effort, it will be nuked immediately anyway
 
Anonymous
5:08 PM
!!flip
 
6:41 PM
Has anyone seen @Jan recently?
I'm looking to get in touch with someone who did their PhD in the 1960s at the university Jan is doing his post doc
 
 
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8:56 PM
@LinearChristmas comment on one of his posts, invite him to a room you're about to create, post a message so he could ping you when available, ???, profit
, ask me to flag the comment as obsolete
 
 
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10:45 PM
Anyone interested in the recent annoying but popcorny material about the blog post
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