The Periodic Table

Jan

4:01 PM

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Yeah, but it doesn’t look nice.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Jan For now, insert two spaces after each line to get a new line.

Jan

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I just did the 1. >! version ;)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

K.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

4:31 PM

Hee, will I get other stars if I post other English alphabet letters?

@Jan @Mart @pH13

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Q: Spoiler text doesn't work with numbered lists - Intended behavior? Workaround?

The spoiler markdown is sometimes cough messed up. Today's edition: Spoiler doesn't work with numbered lists. >! 1. Foo 2. Bar 3. Baz renders like ! 1. Foo 2. Bar 3. Baz I could instead do >! 1. Foo >! 2. Bar >! 3. Baz but that also turns into Sheesh, it's ugly! I cou...

Jan

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M YOu can always try; doesn't hurt.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I would +1, but I'm to lazy to join meta.SE.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Jan No worries, I'll inform you of any answers.

Jan

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M +1 that one, too xD

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@bon When you have a better flag to use, you shouldn't use the VLQ tag. It's too ambiguous and broad. That's my point.

bon

I agree entirely, but I think this is one situation where none of the other flags are appropriate.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

4:42 PM

So isn't VLQ flag.

You shouldn't delete any content with 2% answer character @bon.

Jan

If it has even the tiniest look that it might even slightly be an answer, don't flag it, was the lesson I learnt with rejected flags.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Bingo.

Jan

Only definite comments/other questions as NAA or clear spam/offensive. I sometimes do dupes, but only with other.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

It might be an answer is the reject reason for 90% (at least) of all the rejected flags in SE.

Jan

Also, fun fact, German.SE is rather quick at deleting bad answers for some reason.

bon

4:44 PM

Ok I'm not arguing with that if its the community's policy but in that case I don't see any situation in which the VLQ flag is appropriate. Anything that's not an answer can be handled by NAA.

Jan

(bad meaning wrong)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@bon Did you read the links in my answer?

Jan

@bon I think there have been quite a few discussions on metas to nuke it, because misleading. Or at least rename it. But it hasn't happened for whatever reason.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

If anything is not spam nor abusive, the correct flag reason is VLQ @Bon @Jan.

Something like this:

> Haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha

Is not spam nor abusive.

We could say it's NAA.

Jan

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M No that's NAA.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

4:46 PM

@Jan No.

NAA has a set scope.

Jan

‘It was posted as an answer but does not attempt to answer the question’

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

"me too!", "thanks", "<insert comment>", "new question", "link-only stuff" is NAA.

Pure Gibberish is VLQ.

CC @Bon

bon

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M There is also an option for 'no commentary needed' which covers stuff which is obviously junk like pure gibberish

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@bon That option is for when no one commented, or you fear the idiot NAA'er might come back and attack you.

Wait.

Actually, the mere reason it exists is to dismiss "comments are required" objections.

bon

This just turned up in VLQ queue and is a classic example of something which should have 'no comment necessary' because it's obviously junk.

mnjkhbhgfvju6tc jhbliuybuyutgb uyg jg yug k

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

4:52 PM

Yes, but that's not supposed to be in the queue for review.

You don't need no reviewers to be able to tell it's gibberish.

We should be fast enough to get it deleted.

Ideally

Jan

@bon I think I flagged that one NAA

bon

What actually happens when you press recommend deletion? Does it get deleted when enough (5?) people have reviewed it?

Jan

Do VLQ flags put something into the low quality post queue? =O

bon

@Jan I would also have flagged it NAA

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@bon I guess so.

@Jan Yes.

On sites like SO, it needs to get there to get deleted.

bon

4:54 PM

Yes also do both NAA and VLQ flags go in the queue?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Yes. For the same reason above.

So do spam flags actually.

bon

Ok

Jan

So that's why I don't have it in my queue … I flagged it there xD

bon

So basically there is no difference between VLQ and NAA. They both end up in the same queue

Jan

So only moderator attention directly reaches moderators?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

4:57 PM

@Jan Yes.

And it has a special queue.

@Mart needs to confirm that. ^

Jan

@Martin, wake up now! Confirm for us! D=

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Mart press 'confirm'.

@MART

@Mart MAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNN-SSOOMMEE JAAPPAANEESSEE SSTTUUFF

BTW guyses.

I was thinking of putting up a meta post for feedback.

Jan

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Care to post a feature-request on meta.SE for a progress report on Outspoken badges? 8D

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Jan SEDE is the solution.

"Meta is a scary place to post." - Meta Rule #1

Jan

Sede?

(Also, I'm about to go home =D less than 10 % conversion after 5 hours. And one reaction on the tabletop.)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

5:08 PM

Stack Exchange Data Explorer.

feetwet

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Q: How do I check my progress on the Outspoken badge?

All the badges seem easy to check on data.stackexchange. Except one, Outspoken. Posted 10 messages in chat that were starred by 10 different users Is it possible to check my progress on this badge, and if so how?

discussion badges

Also, Jan, thank you for your answer to my question. Awesome to have you in the commnity!

Jan

Too much praise in there, @feetwet

feetwet

Oh no, I was only getting started ;)

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M This is very true

Do ManishEarth or jonsca make regular appearances in here?

Jan

@feetwet Oh my God, what am I expecting …

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@feetwet No, but @Mart's usually here.

Hides

Jan

5:14 PM

Oh I just loled so hard! =DDDDDDDDDDDD

pH13

turn the internet off @Martin

Martin - マーチン

I See all Flaggschiff if they are not taken care of

Jan

How our superior moderator descended into this room from heavens above right after @inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M's ping …

=D

Martin - マーチン

flags

pH13

xD

Martin - マーチン

5:15 PM

Not flaggschiff lol

pH13

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M is our Flaggschiff

Jan

But you are also ready to shoot down any enemy Flaggschiff that wasn't taken care of, right?

Martin - マーチン

And the whole vlq vs naa is making my head hurt

pH13

maybe this was @bon 's secret plan ಠ_ಠ

feetwet

So @Martin-マーチン - with the people present can we briefly unlock, upvote to zero, and then relock this CW?

-3

Q: Most extreme chemicals

This is a special list of the most extreme chemicals and elements. Lists are generally off-topic for Stack Exchange. However, this is a popular search topic. This question is designed to have one Community Wiki answer. Anyone with at least 100 rep can edit it to amend/correct this list.

reference-request elements

Martin - マーチン

5:19 PM

Well basically the guideline is, bad answers deserve downvotes not deletion... that's what i learned, but I'll read up in that more

feetwet

Remember this is a special "list" question

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Q: Most extreme chemicals

I know we eschew "lists" on main, but this is a popular search topic and many good questions and answers address the question, "For characteristic X what is the most extreme chemical?" E.g., Strongest acid Strongest organic acid Most dangerous: Is there any substance that's a 4-4-4 on the NFPA...

discussion big-list

The downvotes on the question were almost certainly ignorant of that discussion, and would make the whole thing disappear in searches

I'm proposing getting it back to zero

pH13

@feetwet but that Martin and MAR like this does not mean, that everyone likes it

feetwet

True, but once it's locked nobody can vote on the question; only on the answers.

It just got downvoted before it could be locked

pH13

ok

got that

feetwet

Disagreement with the existence of the list (or discussion about it) should be directed to the meta question

bon

5:23 PM

@pH13 I always have a secret plan :P

pH13

@bon I knew it!

feetwet

@pH13 I guess a fair alternative would be to unlock the question for some period, edit it to reference the meta discussion, and let the votes fall where they may before relocking it.

Martin - マーチン

I will unlock it tomorrow, i can't do it from my tablet

feetwet

OK, thx

Martin - マーチン

i can leave it open for a while after that

Can you please accept the answer already

feetwet

5:27 PM

Maybe edit it to say, "Read this meta discussion before you downvote this."

Martin - マーチン

Tux