3 hours game development maraton "Gajet + Gustavo"

Gajet

21:46

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well first of all what do you have in mind?

language? development API or any other things?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

For speed i would say C# and XNA

dont want to bother with low level stuff

Gajet

well, I need to learn so many things for XNA but OK. no problem.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

Well

Gajet

@Damir I'll be glad to have you here.

now about the structures we need.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

So you can get the gameplay stuff, while i deal with resources, scene management, and etc

since C# is very close to C++ and java, you may have no problems

Gajet

21:48

so you mean I'm the one doing the codes?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

not exactly

Gajet

I was thinking I'm much more faster with C++ if I'll be coding solo

Gustavo - Gtoknu

Well, if you wish to, but what library/engine/api?

I do well with C++ too, no worries

Gajet

I'd go with esenthel engine, it's very easy to use but needs some time to get used to it

Gustavo - Gtoknu

let me google it w8

devmaster.net/devdb/engines/esenthel-engine is this it?

Gajet

21:50

70MB to download,

it's a reveiw.

their main site is : esenthel.com

Gustavo - Gtoknu

wow, 70mb with my internet D:

Gajet

then go back to xna

now about the the game structure.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

first, lets decide the gameplay, so we can decide what structures we'll need

Gajet

you have any special thing in mind?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

nah

2d, yeah?

Gajet

21:54

absolutely.

I'm going with the TD idea.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

k, so a topdown TD

Gajet

and I'd like it to have infinite levels to play.

each stage is random generated.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

yup

Gajet

based on multiple things such as how much money did the player earned or how much time did he played so far

Gustavo - Gtoknu

for a td, it should not be hard to generate the stages

Gajet

21:56

I guess it's not.

now that I think about it, there should be a GameMap.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

just think of some formula to decide how much hard the next game should be

Gajet

Tower and Enemy classes.

also A "buff" class should ease everything.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

k

Gajet

I'm thinking a little warcraft style here.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

explain pls

Gajet

21:58

let's say there is tower that's going to slow enemies.

whenever it shots an enemy, it places an "slow buff" inside enemy class.

or update it.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

yeah,

so the enemy class should have a list of buffs

or better, a queue

when a buff ends, it is pulled out of the queue

Gajet

later enemy updates buff in it's update stage and remove them whenever their time ended

not a simple queue,

Gustavo - Gtoknu

priority queue

or a priority stack

Gajet

buffs may have different times

@GustavoGtoknu exactly

Gustavo - Gtoknu

i know heh

do you know any tool for team programming?

svn is nice, but..

Gajet

22:00

take a look at this: I guess we can use it to share ideas more visually : grapholite.com

it's only about sharing ideas.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

wow, nice

seems like www.caccoo.com

i will register

updating silverlight -.-

Gajet

I'm not sure if either of them allow teamwork.

but it's a good try

Gustavo - Gtoknu

caccoo does, i've alreadyworked with some friends in it

Gajet

I know I can share things using grapholite, but I'm not sure if others can change also them.

anyway, I guess now that we agreed on basic features, we can start with development.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

try to create

something on grapholite

and inviting me

user: Gtoknu

Gajet

22:07

just a sec, I needed to update my silverlight too

hi john

loading designer

Gustavo - Gtoknu

im taking a tour in the samples heh

Gajet

you have svn installed on your machine?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

yup

Gajet

and git?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

too

Gajet

22:12

then i think we can go with bitbucket+git

creating a repo

Gustavo - Gtoknu

k

meanwhile I'll get something to drink brb

Gajet

grapholite.com/Designer?fileid=7886

Gustavo - Gtoknu

k, back

can u see the editions i made

?

Gajet

did you share them?

or save?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

it says i cant write...

well

Cacco is instantaneous

you can see what i do while im doing

and it also have a built in chat

Gajet

22:20

I've created an account in cacoo

do you have a github account?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

i dont :/

will register

Gajet

I've also created an account in cacoo

Gustavo - Gtoknu

let me create one diagram w8

whats ur email address?

and i made an account in github

Gajet

[email protected]

Gustavo - Gtoknu

github.com/Gtoknu

i invited you to the diagram

Gajet

22:27

your bitbucket address?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

need to make an account on bitbucket too .-.

bitbucket.org/Gtoknu

Gajet

seems I forgot how to use git

:(

Gustavo - Gtoknu

>.>

Gajet

this you see my edit at cacoo

Gustavo - Gtoknu

?

Gajet

22:36

we also can use unfuddle

i've used it before, it's much more easier to use (and I can use tortuise svn)

@GustavoGtoknu i've edited wrong page!

Gustavo - Gtoknu

So okay :o

can you open caccoo chat?

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

WHY NO SCREENSHOTS?!

Gustavo - Gtoknu

planning phase!

Gajet

any ideas about game name?

Code Assasssin

:3

Gustavo - Gtoknu

22:50

Hello tweak

Gajet

email?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

?

Gajet

to send an invitation from unfuddle?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

[email protected]

Gajet

I've created a project

and created a project, added to repository

Damir

23:00

@Gajet 3 Hot Towers

Gajet

why 3?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

checking out

because its 3 hours heh

Gajet

:D

I really think it's not bad to add texture to entity.

and then only implement draw in entity itself

Gustavo - Gtoknu

ah, so do so :D

I just think its a bad idea for tiles

Damir

Did you decide on a theme, or is it going to be abstract?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

23:02

Can i do the scene management stuff

?

Gajet

I think yeah,

Gustavo - Gtoknu

Ok

so, here its 20:00, and the dev starts NOW

3

Gajet

I'm going to implement basic features needed based on class chart

you mind if I design structures for rapid prototyping instead of easy maintenance?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

no worries heh

Gajet

for those who don't have access to cacoo

@GustavoGtoknu which classes did you implement so far?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

23:11

Scene and GameScene(for testing purposes)

going to commit now

Should i make detailed descriptio on the commit?

Gajet

nope

we can chat here

and don't worry about me, whatever code you produce I can understand.

:D

Gustavo - Gtoknu

Ok, commited :D

you can update now

what should i do now?

15 minutes have been gone

Gajet

I'll be implementing GameMap for now.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

Ok, I'll do so for Enitity

Gajet

the basic idea I have is to whenever enemy needs a pathfinding it asks GameMap for directions

@GustavoGtoknu remember to add any files to repository whenever you create a new class

Gustavo - Gtoknu

23:17

k

Gajet

I got an error scene was not declared in this scopre

Gustavo - Gtoknu

Added Entity

lol, how not?

btw im going to make everything public, no time for getters and setters

Gajet

good

I'm okay with that,

why do you think csproj file is not updated?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

dont know..

Gajet

anyway added those files myself

also always keep project in compilable state.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

23:23

Ok, so maybe better i commit again

ive reached compilable state

Ok, revision 4, update pls

Damir

@Gajet Check if .gitignore is blocking it.

Code Assasssin

I want ScreenShots :/\

Gajet

@Damir it's not, we are using svn, and it's part of files

Damir

Ah, thought you were on git.

Gajet

@GustavoGtoknu now i made a guess, try "saveall" instead of save. maybe VC doesn't change project file when you add files to it.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

23:26

yup, last commit i did a save all, and the .suo file was together in the commit

Gajet

Gustavo - Gtoknu

nice screen shot heh

who will be doing the art?

Gajet

no idea

commited by only adding a single class

Code Assasssin

I will :)

Trololol.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

game map wasnt added here lol

Gajet

23:33

new commit

Gustavo - Gtoknu

new commit

what to do now?

Gajet

are you sure we need to implement draw for every Entity?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

There is any entity that will not draw itself?

Gajet

no I mean, if entity itself has texture member.

you can implement draw for only Entity class and forget anything else.

just put a setter for their type or what so ever to change that texture.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

hmm

Gajet

23:40

let's have "no abstract function policy!"

Gustavo - Gtoknu

:D

Gajet

new commit, changed many things

hope you don't get conflicts

I think implementing generateMap will take a while so you can work on specific Enemy, Tower, ect.

starting with tower I guess.

Code Assasssin

Random Generation?

Copy cats!

D:<

Gajet

heh, it'll be much more better than your perlin noise stuff.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

new commit, added mainMenuScene to test scene draw ability heh

btw, is it topdown?

Code Assasssin

23:48

@Gajet >_>

Gajet

yeah,

Gustavo - Gtoknu

k

Code Assasssin

I draw sprites :)

Kinda bored heh

brb food o:

Gustavo - Gtoknu

So I assume it will be made of tiles, right?

this on entity may change

sb.Draw(texture, new Rectangle((int)Position.X, (int)Position.Y, texture.Width, texture.Height), Color.White);

to

sb.Draw(texture, new Rectangle((int)Position.X * texture.Width, (int)Position.Y * texture.Height, texture.Width, texture.Height), Color.White);

if we use the vector2 position to indicate its position on the tile map, instead of screen pixels

Gajet

I like the first one better,

Gustavo - Gtoknu

23:51

hm, why?

Gajet

since enemies can have a position between tiles.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

ah, true.

havent thought of that lol

Gajet

there is no such a thing as textureBank in XNA?

Gustavo - Gtoknu

you can create one easily

Dictionary<key, Texture2D> textureBank;

Gajet

I'll be doing it

Gustavo - Gtoknu

23:52

key you can choose to be a string, int, or whatever

the towers will have the ability to upgrade?

Gajet

yeah I guess.

but we can simulate that by destroying and building a new tower.

so no need for a new function so far

Gustavo - Gtoknu

hmm, like in warcraft, good

so should the "building in progress" be a kind of tower that spawn another tower in the end?

or should it be integrated in the tower itself?

Gajet

for 3 hours game, I think a tower appearing out of nowhere is good enough.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

few questions, should enemies be able to cast buffs onto towers? should towers be able to cast buffs onto other towers? will there be area buffs affecting bullets?

Gajet

no buff will affect bullets

other than that everything is possible.

Gustavo - Gtoknu

23:59

so better have two buff lists on entity

castableBuffs

and actingBuffs

with actingBuffs being a priorityQueue

Gajet

no idea there, do as you please

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