Most Eisley

Ixrec

12:00

oh, well, so much for that

SQB

@CandiedMango Well, these are facts. I see at least three high rep users now at 1 rep.

CandiedMango

Based on my knowledge of the events the mods did not like the responses to what was happening. (I was only around for the aftermath and also don't want to talk about it any more based on previous messages) My basic outline is enough from my end :)

@SQB Indeed, I'm just being cautious young padawan

SQB

Were they mods, or CMs?

CandiedMango

Both.

steelerfan

@SQB So......ahem......Are you a fan of Doctor Who? ;)

SQB

12:02

Well, I'm just genuinely puzzled. For a couple of months, the room had been swamped with CMs, Richard got suspended, and now this. All without me having any clue about Dr. Who or What is happening.

See? Talking about SF!

Ixrec

I was actively following the chat both times it got frozen, and I still have no idea how it happened

steelerfan

Has anyone pinged poor Slytherincess? I am afraid that she will wake up and not know where to go ;)

Ixrec

I mean, this time there was a very obvious starting point, but how it got to the point of freezing multiple chat rooms instead of just kickmuting one user I have no idea

CandiedMango

Mostly the tactic is that unless you were there you won't know the gritty details and if you were there you aren't supposed to share. Pureferret saw my previous message and deemed it okay, based on the response from Keen the Mods and CMs are actively looking to route out the trouble makers

@steelerfan She saw Mos Eisley post nuke

SQB

@steelerfan Not really. It's not that I don't like it, it's just that I haven't gotten around to watching it.

Ixrec

12:05

I'm sure she'll work it out

steelerfan

@CandiedMango Oh. gotcha.

@SQB I was attempting a subject change ;)

Ixrec

I really should go buy the other Matt Smith seasons already

SQB

@CandiedMango I understand that, but then someone like me just walks in, sees a number of friends suspended, the room nuked, but mustn't talk about it?

Ixrec

@SQB Yes

(none of us like it, and meta posts have been made arguing against this, but that seems to be the current de facto policy)

SQB

I agree that after a certain point, we shouldn't keep bringing it up, but like someone once said:
> Users are not mushrooms, nor are they stupid. Keeping them in the dark never, ever helps.

CandiedMango

12:08

@SQB This is an extremely contentious issue (read the comments on the post where you got that quote and you'll see my opinion)

1 min ago, by Ixrec

(none of us like it, and meta posts have been made arguing against this, but that seems to be the current de facto policy)

THis

Ixrec

plus, the people who made the meta posts I'm alluding to are now suspended :/

but anyway, let's talk about science fiction

we all know we all feel the same way on this subject so no point discussing it more

CandiedMango

3 People Suspended, 3 Points on a triangle, ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED

Ixrec

I'm gonna go watch Parasyte

CandiedMango

Truer words have never been spoken

Gonna watch Scream Queens

:)

Ixrec

let's see how long I can watch this without any subtitles

SQB

12:28

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A: Very frustrating user experience

2009-10-05: The user's account is no longer suspended. He was e-mailed with regards to this. With regards to this user and the current account suspension. These notes are taken from the Moderator annotations on the users account and has been ongoing since early September 2009. Also all actions ...

That is how suspension of high rep, highly visible users should be handled.

One last thing before I drop it. If this is going to be the new site room, I'd like to see more owners.

steelerfan

@CandiedMango See ya buddy!

CandiedMango

@steelerfan I'm more around than when I'm playing games :P

@SQB I agree on this front

steelerfan

@CandiedMango Oh. I see. Will you be giving us play by play then?

SQB

I'm tempted to create yet another room to get that sorted.

@st

CandiedMango

Girl walking sassily

Woman attempting to cook

Girl knows woman is liar

SQB

12:36

@steelerfan My brother is quite pleased with the Vikings at the moment.

CandiedMango

Girl shows painting of woman

steelerfan

That sounds exactly like me on all fronts!!!

@SQB Oh? Do tell....

CandiedMango

Girl look for more proof

Woman grabs knife

Girl laying it down

steelerfan

@CandiedMango OK. Nevermind. You are turning into Wad.

CandiedMango

Tehe

The last time someone asked me to do a play by play i did exactly this and then they stopped >:)

FYI Vikings is a great TV show

steelerfan

12:39

@CandiedMango I think he is talking about the football team.

CandiedMango

I know

I added FYI so you'd all know :D

SQB

Well, they're at the top of their division, apparently, after beating the... Rams, I think it was? And the Packers lost, so he was happy.

CandiedMango

Isn't stack a packer?

steelerfan

@CandiedMango No. Seahawk.

CandiedMango

Woops!

There's an awesome lightning storm going on atm

steelerfan

12:42

@SQB Yeah. they are doing fairly well. I haven't seen them play all season.

SQB

Anyway, he's been a Viking fan since he was 14 or so.

Cousin was into it, Dolphins fan. Don't know why my brother picked the Vikings.

steelerfan

I remember you telling me that before. As long as he is not a Bengals fan. There are users that have miraculously became Bengals fans since they are in the same division as the Steelers ;)

SQB

When pressed for an answer, I actually picked the Steelers, but to be honest, I don't watch it at all.

CandiedMango

BENGALS BENGALS ROAR BENGALS BENGALS ROAR

SQB

He, on the other hand, even plays flag football in then park every Sunday.

steelerfan

12:45

Do you see what I mean?? ;)

CandiedMango

@steelerfan Steelers aint got nuffin! They crumble like a muffin!

steelerfan

@CandiedMango Yeah. Keep on talking. ;) Do you know that I am going to a Steelers game on 11/29? They will be up in Seattle playing Stack's Seahawks. I finally get to go see a live Steeler game!!!! :)

CandiedMango

@steelerfan It would be awesome if Stack was going too!

There's nothing like a live game day though

steelerfan

@CandiedMango He said a few of his friends are. I told him to drive them there and meet me for a "fan picture" We can both post it as our new avatar ;)

CandiedMango

@steelerfan Aha! That'd be awesome :P

steelerfan

12:57

Steelers will beat the Seahawks of course.

CandiedMango

Not sure he can reveal his identity again though! He'll never stay as Major.

Nope the bengals will come in as a surprise and win

steelerfan

@CandiedMango How in the hell can the Bengals win when it is Steelers vs. Seahawks?

CandiedMango

@steelerfan Bengals always win.

Doesn't matter who plays

steelerfan

@CandiedMango You really suck. Almost as bad as one of the "Those we do not speak of"

CandiedMango

Voldemort is a Bengals fan?

Awesome

steelerfan

13:01

Double suckage!!

SQB

Mos Eisley Cantina

Mos Eisley spaceport. You will never find a more wretched hive...

An attempt to have an alternative with multiple owners.

steelerfan

TACOS

SQB

Tacos All Completely Obviously Suck?

steelerfan

@SQB No!!! :)

SQB

13:19

@steelerfan @Ixrec @Himarm @AnkitSharma @Semaphore @SSumner
http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/31550/mos-eisley-cantina

Ankit Sharma

@SQB What is it about?

SQB

New new room.

CandiedMango

@AnkitSharma "An attempt to have an alternative with multiple owners."

SQB

Tried to set it up so it has more owners.

Ankit Sharma

I am mod, so i am owner to all non SO chatroom by default, so it doesn't matter much to me :D

SQB

13:22

Mos Eisley got frozen due to issues, this room was a quick alternative, I've set up the other one to have more regulars as owners.

Ankit Sharma

@SQB Frozen mos eisley? How?

I mean active room don't get froze

SQB

@AnkitSharma There were issues.

Napoleon Wilson

@AnkitSharma Not exactly owner. I don't think you can do everything an owner can, even if you can do different things.

@AnkitSharma Probably not best to rehash that here. Take a look at the transcripts and the pinned messages of the various rooms.

Ankit Sharma

@NapoleonWilson I can make myself owner at any time :D

Napoleon Wilson

@AnkitSharma Oh, that too, I guees. ;-)

SQB

13:25

2 hours ago, by CandiedMango

A thing was said, A thing was flagged, Mods did a thing, Mods and Users talked, Mods nuked Mos, Users spread out to new rooms, Mods had a meeting?(Or talked in their secret mod room), Keen gave us the info and reduced our new rooms down to size

steelerfan

@AnkitSharma Do you really want to enter into this?

Ankit Sharma

@NapoleonWilson ok, then maybe later.

Napoleon Wilson

@AnkitSharma For example owners can move messages, I don't think moderators can per se. Or kickmute users.

Ankit Sharma

→ 1 message moved to Movie lab

@NapoleonWilson no mod can ^^

Kickmute option is also available

Napoleon Wilson

Oh, I see.

Ankit Sharma

13:31

Means there is no diffrence

SQB

Mos Eisley Cantina

Mos Eisley spaceport. You will never find a more wretched hive...

rand al'thor

15:35

@WadCheber @Richard @DVK Just letting you know of this:

in Mos Eisley Cantina, 12 mins ago, by rand al'thor

FYI: I'm on strike from SFF.SE for the next week, until certain people are back among us.

That's all I'll say about the suspensions until they're over. I don't know what happened after I left last night, so I can't comment on whether or not they were justified. Looking forward to seeing you all again in 7 days' time :-)

Pureferret

15:58

I'm back all

SQB

Hello, @Pureferret

Pureferret

@steelerfan no kids here for climbing frameness

Wife has a multitude of physical and mental/emotional health issues that I try to help out with.

@SQB Yo ho

SQB

16:20

I'm trying to get people to come over to

Mos Eisley Cantina

Mos Eisley spaceport. You will never find a more wretched hive...

@Pureferret in an attempt to overcome some of the problems of the frozen room, I've added a multitude of owners.

Even you :)

Pureferret

17:09

@SQB but this is Most Eisley

It's the most

That's cool though

Praxis

@SQB : Hello! Is there a reason why multiple replacements for Mos Eisley are popping up?

Major Stackings

Hello. I am Stackings. Hear me roar.

Praxis

@MajorStackings : "You're like an old, toothless Grishnar cat, trying to frighten us with your roar."

@MajorStackings : Just quoting some Gowron, from DS9. ;-)

Ixrec

@Praxis originally, because multiple people had the idea at the same time, then because the replacement room everyone converged on also got nuked, and right now because SQB believes that a room with way more owners has a better chance of solving the problem than this one does

Praxis

@Ixrec : Reasonable. Thanks.

Ixrec

17:15

it was a bit of a mess

Praxis

@SQB : Please add me and @Slytherincess to the rom owners for Cantina please (if you agree). :-)

@Ixrec : I do feel that people wait for times when no room owners are present to have these massive arguments.

Ixrec

that seems to have been the case this time

Praxis

@Ixrec : And on almost every other occasion when chat degenerated into chaos. Of course, this is the worst that there has ever been.

Ixrec

I'm half-tempted to ask if I should be one since for some odd reason I'm always around when this happens

@Praxis I'm also thinking of times before we had any non-mod owners

Praxis

@Ixrec : You would be a good addition, and I don't think we necessarily need an election in this case.

Ixrec

17:19

thanks

Praxis

@Ixrec : I'm happy to propose your addition. Are you happy for me to go ahead and do that? Also, would you be comfortable kick-muting one or more people engaged in heated debate?

Ixrec

sure

Capy Stenchbeast

@Ixrec DO IT! (woof)

Ixrec

I am more than happy to kickmute people when I see something as stupid as what started the incident yesterday

Praxis

@CapyStenchbeast : I detect a hint of WadCheber in you.

Ixrec

17:22

someone has to fill his shoes

Major Stackings

Does anybody know if we are pissing off one of our mods, or one of those high faluting mods from Capital City?

enderland

so when you say things like that, when I come by here randomly... it really doesn't do much to make this chat room look mature. /random observation

Praxis

@Ixrec : Cool. Leave it with me. I'll bring it up in the private chat moderation room, that when the real Mos comes back, you are a swell candidate for an additional room owner (for many reasons). :-)

Ixrec

thanks again

Capy Stenchbeast

@Praxis grrrr

Praxis

17:24

@Ixrec : No prob. I'm going to go check out what's happening in the Cantina room, then I'm off for a bit. See ya! :-)

Major Stackings

@enderland Who are you responding to?

Praxis

@CapyStenchbeast : Woof! See ya later. And nice meta posts. :-)

enderland

your message immediately before mine was the first one I saw when I stopped in here today

Major Stackings

@enderland I wasn't sure since it was an open statement. Try to understand that if we can't discuss the problems, we can't fix the problems

enderland

Course, making anyone from "capital city" who comes here immediately feel attacked probably isn't a good strategy if you want to actually fix the problems

Ixrec

17:30

discussing the problems only with us also won't help all that much

Keen

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

Huh, I thought xkcd were oneboxed.

xkcd.com/927

ohh, https

enderland

yeah the onebox is mostly broken for xkcd

Keen

@enderland The oneboxing doesn't work for https urls.

IIRC, except for one or two of the sites onebox supports

Major Stackings

Here's a point of view: I'm being told there is a problem by folks I don't know and rarely ever see. The inferred issues have been deleted, and when I try to address the subject with core members of the chat, I get a non directed open statement from a higher up. We do indeed appear to have issues. Not all of them seem to be Mos Eisley specific.

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Ixrec

normally I just copy the link to the comic's image directly

I never realized there was a special rule for xkcd links

Keen

17:45

@Ixrec If you do the full url (http, not https!), then it oneboxes it, which gets you the handy feature of the hover text working.

1

A: Why did our primary chatroom get nuked?

A problem has been festering in SFF's chatroom for some time now. And in spite of the best efforts of your moderators and room owners, it doesn't seem to be going away. I've observed the activity in SFF chat for some time now, and I've come to believe that the problem boils down to a fundamental ...

Ixrec

@Keen ooooh, nice

SQB

17:59

Mos Eisley Cantina

Mos Eisley spaceport. You will never find a more wretched hive...

user132126

18:28

So this chat is allowed?

user132126

Like, when I log in later I won't have to find yet another?

Major Stackings

21:01

Ok folks. Although I don't think I was a Major factor in the problem that brought the roof down, I don't think I'm helping in the ways of putting it back up. As you all know by now, I have opinions that cell me. I'm taking a sabbatical for a while.

steelerfan

@MajorStackings NO!!!! Please don't. This site just isn't fun anymore :(

Ixrec

21:24

@MajorStackings sounds like a good idea, have fun and I look forward to chatting again when you get back

rand al'thor

21:36

in Agents of Nothing, 18 hours ago, by Mike Edenfield

I think we're all supposed to all f@$ off and stop using the site, is what the goal seems to be.

Five down, rest of the site to go.

Ixrec

they will not defeat me

but I barely do anything on the main site so I probably don't count

rand al'thor

Maybe it'll be just you and the mods in the end.

I haven't seen @Slytherincess since the event either :-(

Ixrec

at least you're still here in chat

steelerfan

@randal'thor sigh. This is really depressing :(

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Ixrec

21:53

that's probably the best reason to not talk about it

steelerfan

22:04

Yeah. It's just sad. I really enjoy talking with all of you in here. I have never been offended in here in the least. As a matter of fact, I am always cheered up after a bad day in here. It's just depressing

Ixrec

22:19

woo, four episodes into this show and I still don't need the subtitles

it's been a while since I watched any anime so I wasn't sure if my hearing had gotten better or worse

rand al'thor

@Ixrec Seen the latest DW episode?

Ixrec

...oops

rand al'thor

It's a creepy found-footage one ... interesting.

(That's not a spoiler, since it's in the episode description on iPlayer.)

Ixrec

that does sound interesting

I guess it could work for DW

I think Marble Hornets is the only found footage thing I've ever watched properly

rand al'thor

I've seen the Blair Witch Project, which must be one of the most famous.

And the BBC's indoor take on it, Ghostwatch (which was better, IMO).

Ixrec

22:25

I'll join you in the spoiler chat when I'm finished with this show and DW

rand al'thor

"Sleep no more, Macbeth hath murdered sleep!"

OK, see you over there :-)

Thorsten S.

22:40

@randal'thor Hi

rand al'thor

@ThorstenS. Hi, long time no see!

Thorsten S.

Was busy....I see with increasing terror what happened here....

H-bomb ?

rand al'thor

Yep, it's definitely the worst Mos Eisley has seen.

Thorsten S.

Mos Eisley shut down....Several people banned.

rand al'thor

It's wrought havoc with our top users.

At least five active users taking time off SFF.SE because of this.

Thorsten S.

22:47

Who apart from Wad has been banned ?

rand al'thor

@ThorstenS. OMG, you don't know the other two?

Ixrec

the proper term is "suspended"

rand al'thor

@ThorstenS. Check this out: scifi.stackexchange.com/users?tab=Reputation&filter=all

Thorsten S.

I only saw that Wad was away and never dared to investigate...

rand al'thor

Although we're not supposed to say too much about this aspect of it at least.

Under the "don't talk about suspended users" rule.

Otherwise we might end up joining them :-o

Thorsten S.

22:49

So I must find out myself you-know-who....

So bad ?

So unbelievably bad ?

rand al'thor

@ThorstenS. The rep table says it all. Our top two users are out.

And the pinned message over there says the mods are very trigger-happy with the 'suspend' button right now ---------------->

Thorsten S.

They are missing 8-0 !

rand al'thor

It feels like a Doctor Who base-under-siege episode. We don't know who could be next.

@ThorstenS. ?

Thorsten S.

Oh god, I am nearly crying.

I feel sick.

rand al'thor

:-(

Don't let it get to you that much!

They're only gone for a week (hopefully).

Ixrec

22:54

and it's not like they're in the hospital or anything

Thorsten S.

That something could have happened, ok, but this is very hard to swallow.

Only a week ? <Mod> sounded like dishing out a ban.

Ixrec

ok finally DW time

rand al'thor

@ThorstenS. Last time I checked, each of the three suspended users is set to return in 7 days.

Thorsten S.

Oh, man, I thought that it was permanent.

It really sounded like that.

ArtOfCode

My reading of the situation is that the events of yesterday were the straw that broke the camel's back. Things blew up in Mos one too many times, too many warnings issued, so this time it wasn't just another warning.

rand al'thor

22:56

@ThorstenS. NO! Definitely not that bad.

Thorsten S.

Do you understand now how sick I felt ?

rand al'thor

Yeah, that would've made it maybe not worth continuing to participate on SFF.SE.

Thorsten S.

I had much to do, working on several projects.

rand al'thor

I must say I've never heard of the top two users on an SE being suspended simultaneously, but ...

in Mos Eisley, Nov 9 at 23:28, by rand al'thor

Recipe for an argument: put @Richard, @DVK, and @WadCheber in a chatroom together and stir well.

(and that was long before yesterday's debacle)

Thorsten S.

Man, was I glad not being here.

I seriously doubt I would have been a fire extinguisher.

rand al'thor

23:01

Sadly, the ROs weren't there either.

Thorsten S.

ROs ?

rand al'thor

Room owners (Slytherincess and Praxis)

Thorsten S.

The Perfect Storm.

rand al'thor

I think poor Slytherincess was pretty upset.

Thorsten S.

Why ?

Apart from the storm itself ?

rand al'thor

23:03

Same reason we all are with this stuff happening. Only more so because as an RO she might feel more responsible.

If she'd been there when it all started, I bet it would never have escalated as it did.

Thorsten S.

If I have learned one lesson in life: You are not responsible for the decisions of other people.

It only makes you suffer for things you cannot control.

Ixrec

and now to talk about something completely different

Thorsten S.

@Ixrec Suggestion ?

Ixrec

I watched the first four episodes of DW S6 today

probably why I forgot there was an actually new episode on today

I really liked The Silent

Thorsten S.

@randal'thor Thanks for giving me a short briefing !

rand al'thor

23:07

@Ixrec I've got the whole of S3, but haven't started watching it precisely because S9 is on. That'd be too confusing.

Ixrec

it is a bit of a risk

rand al'thor

@ThorstenS. No problem :-)

Thorsten S.

@Ixrec Never was a fan of Doctor Who.

rand al'thor

and now to go back to lurking

Thorsten S.

Sorry, the Moon Egg is something I can never forgive.

Ixrec

23:08

rofl

ArtOfCode

I know y'all probably will anyway, but when she turns up you can tell Slytherincess that her nose is clean :)

Thorsten S.

@Ixrec So much for trying to stay away....

Himarm

our people faught later

rand al'thor

@Himarm I wasn't there when it started, but I thought it began with an argument between users including the three we shouldn't mention?

Ixrec

he said the escalation, not the beginning

but we really should avoid rehashing it yet again

Thorsten S.

23:14

@Himarm rand and Ixrec had already gave the impression that it is unwise to talk about the incident....?

rand al'thor

@Himarm Oh yes, the escalation. OK, never mind what I just said :-)

Someone on meta thinks mods were suspended:

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Q: Do suspended moderators regain their moderator privileges?

Well in light of the recent fiasco which occured in Chat, it would seem atleast two moderators (I won't name names!) were suspended for, what I would assume, lack of "moderating". If a moderator was suspended and he/she returns after their allotted suspension, are they still a moderator?

Thorsten S.

Why I am reminded of the Q-bomb instead of the H-bomb ?

Himarm

if anyone can just trash that convo

just wanted to help the blame game but enough of that :P

their removed all of that

thanks @whichever mod

StackExchange

ArtOfCode has frozen this room.

ArtOfCode

Sorry guys - we've been told if valid flags are raised, freeze the room until one of your mods handles. Valid flags were raised, so...well.

Axelrod

23:32

room topic changed to Most Eisley: It isn't 100% Eisley, but nearly. Off Topic "with blackjack and hookers". (no tags)

ArtOfCode

It seems your currently open chat is Mos Eisley Cantina, go there if you want to talk. Try not to get your last room frozen...

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