Just throwing in an aside: If a question is bad here, but good on another site, it will generally attract no upvotes and no answers here. In such a case, I am generally against migration, because of the effort for mods from two sites to get involved. Close it here. Let the OP cut-and-paste it at the new site if they want.

@DikranMarsupial Er, I think the thought is apes and homo sapiens have a common ancestor. And not that we evolved from apes.

I don't understand the point of the fibromyalgia question.

Yes, it's a state of dis-ease.

As I mentioned in the answer, people move from being normal to having fibromyalgia, and it can be induced as was done to some unfortunate medical students.

Whether you want to call it a disease or syndrome matters little to us who treat these things.

And I see enough of this condition.

yep

the main issue is people claiming that the problem does not exist, diminishing people who suffer.

Just because they don't have a handy functional MRI scanner on hand.

No, not true.

Lots of people used to claim it does not exist.

You'd be surprised what people say.

Other people claim that it's a gradient of normal pain processing.

so there's no cut off from when normal and disease starts.

But that's true for lots of things like hypertension, cholesterol, depression etc.

Yes, I'm a rheumatologist.

exactly

And suicide rates are 5x higher in Fibro patients

So, there is both morbidity and mortality associated.

Yep, I have to disagree with Dr F Wolfe, world expert on the condition :)

It's just like other biological states.

Well not at the meetings I go to.

But the tools we have are now much more sophisticated to show the problems at the CNS level these people have.

I did provide references.

No, because you can't do these tests except in special laboratories, or imaging centres.

And the problem is so common.

So, it's not realistic to do unless you've got a Govt grant.

Any, why the interest? Got a female relative/friend suffering?

The issue with research in this area, is finding funding.

Research that involves a new drug gets often funded by drug companies.

This type of condition for which drugs have a dismal record, are not easily funded.

Normal cholesterol is said to be 4 mmol/L.

When do you call a cholesterol greater than this a disease?

Actually most people are interested in things they can see and easily test.

Fibro is not one of those.

And the patients tend to be hard to get on with. Pain everywhere.

Not fun.

Well, sure if you're a masochist.

It's clearly not a rheumatological condition but we treat it as no one else will.

Disorders of pain processing treated with cognitive therapies you would think are the domain of neurologists and psychiatrists. But they are not interested.

Anyway, gotta go. Left my battery charger at home, and in a motel room. So, it's TV for me instead now :(

Just came in to share this:

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I'm sure they'd label it suicide or accidental in that case. They claim he's doing it purposefully.

Maybe. I guess it depends on the jurisdiction. Maybe the view is not that they're neglectful, but that as a guru, he's taken that responsibility into his own hands.

Either way it seems like an injunction against spending/using his money/estate until the facts are determined is in order.

Did the followers put him there? I assumed he went in on his own, and they just "don't want to disturb him".

Ah, so if they put him in there believing him to be alive, then I guess it boils down to whether they thought that would keep him alive.

Similar to a doctor operating on a patient. If he dies, it's not the doctor's fault if he was legitimately trying to prevent it.

Well, yea. I'm not sure how Indian courts work, but seeing as the Punjab High Court has said this is a spiritual matter, it's hard to say.

What about if a reasonable person, knowing that this guru has meditated in sub-zero temps before, would think it would kill them?

Maybe I should leave a clause in my will that says, "Do not assume I am dead, no matter what medical tests are run. I'm simply meditating, so put me in a freezer." That should hold off the courts here for, what, thirty seconds or so?

So probably less than thirty seconds :)

True. At that point it would be some sort of obstruction I imagine, or would be if the court hadn't determined that you can't force the followers to believe he's dead.

The Israel/Palestine conflict has been going on for decades and is (in my opinion) not going to radically change any time soon, so the "rapidly changing event" notice is not correct here (in my opinion).

I think the definiton of "steal" at the top means that basically all countries are stolen, so I'm not sure how meaningful the question even is.

@Geobits Well, would it be controversial to say that the land that is currently US and Canada is stolen land too? Would such a statement be denied by anybody?

@gerrit No, I fully agree it was stolen land. That's what I mean, being "stolen" is meaningless. Maybe the question title should be changed and the definition removed?

More or less what I mean is "Yes it was stolen, but basically every land throughout human history was." Attaching a label so wide that it applies to nearly everything doesn't hold much meaning, even if it technically conveys some meaning.

I'm not really sure. At first glance, it seems better suited for History, but I'm unsure. If the question is "Is the modern state of Israel on lands that were previously Palestinian?", then it just seems general reference. If the question is "Are those lands 'stolen'?", then it just seems subjective.

Obviously the Israelis will say it's not stolen, just "retaken", as they were settled there well over two thousand years ago.

Personally I wouldn't say land is stolen if no humans lived there when current humans arrived.

But my point here was just that it's not a rapidly changing event at all. (I wish it was)

@gerrit well there's a war so, yeah, there's a rapidly changing related event.

At least in my social timelines I read tons of accusations and wild accusations, so there's clearly a heightened interest on this question due to that

Regarding to whether it was stolen, I believe it makes a lot of sense in relation to international treaties. Have they been respected? That's what makes the question not obvious.

Also, it's got a strongly referenced answer so I hope it won't go downhill

the question is related to an event, not about an event

I interpret the related to a rapidly changing event as being relevant only if changes in this event would affect the contents of the question or the answer. The answers are valid regardless of the war in Gaza, and are not affected by it. What is the function of this tag, then?