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crh225

16:09

We have a person in our daily stand up/scrum meeting that takes at least five minutes to say what they feel like they need to say. They give almost an hour by hour play of what they did yesterday, and what they plan on doing today. Everyone else takes about twenty seconds. What is the best way to get the person to make shorter updates. They are the release manager.

I feel as if the person has to over compensate and tell everyone how much they work because they have to work weekends/nights when most people arent working and using the systems.

Masked Man

16:39

@crh225 Would you like to post that as a question on the site?

I wrote an answer just to kill time on the bus, come back and see few hours later - 33 upvotes! Whoa!

crh225

Do you think it is a worthy quesiton? to many times I would ask a question and then it gets downvoted for whatever reason

Masked Man

Well, you never know until you try. I would suggest don't take the downvotes personally. At least on this site, people post a comment on how the question can be improved, and come back to reopen/upvote when the changes are made. It is a part of the pain we all have to bear with to keep the site useful to everyone. Unfortunately, some good questions get killed in the crossfire, but we are humans, we make mistakes. :)

Monica Cellio

17:05

@crh225 I think it's a fine question for the site. Might be a dupe, though, so search before doing a lot of work.

I'm 99% sure we have a Q about long-winded meeting participants. I'm using my phone now so finding & linking is harder. The scrum context (short daily meeting, same people each day) might differentiate from the other Q.

crh225

17:50

Ok. I posted it. The title is(until someone edits it): scrum member speaking to long

crh225

18:11

Q: scrum member speaking to long

I have read this Link However, my question is little bit more specific: How do I get this one person to not talk as long? What can I say during the meeting that isn't rude to let her no she is going way too long? I will need to tell her in person. We have a person in our daily stand up/scrum m...

crh225

19:02

And the token down vote has been hit. This is why I hate stack overflow. A legitimate questions gets downvoted. It should be required to comment why you are downvoting

Joe Strazzere

19:27

@crh225 Check Meta. I think the concept of "required to comment why you are downvoting" has been raised (and rejected) in the past.

Check Meta. I think the concept of "required to comment why you are downvoting" has been raised (and rejected) in the past. http://meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/2589/reason-for-downvoting-should-always-be-clarified-in-order-to-help-improve-questi
http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/135/encouraging-people-to-explain-downvotes

crh225

I guess the whole retaliation thing is why.

+1 @JoeStrazzere

Rory Alsop

@crh225 - the thing to remember is that in all real terms a down vote isn't significant. If you get the odd one, don't worry.

If all your posts are down voted heavily then there us something you are doing wrong

:-)

crh225

If everything I did went correctly, I wouldn't be on stackoverflow. haha

I feel as this is the least negative stack exchange site, but it still exists.

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Joe Strazzere

20:42

@crh225 I don't think I know about "the whole retaliation thing". Did some sort of incident occur?

Jane S

@JoeStrazzere I was wondering this myself.

gnat

21:11

158

A: Should 'drive by' downvoting be more effectively caught?

The answer was down voted because I lost my keys. Please, stay with me, let me explain this odd chain of events. Earlier today I couldn't get to the store on time because I could not find my keys. That caused me to miss the opportunity to run over a golf ball, which would have bounced between a...

Jane S

@gnat That is fabulous!

crh225

@gnat, how is my question a duplicate?

@JoeStrazzere, @JaneS, no incident occured that I know of. But it was a comment on http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/135/encouraging-people-to-explain-downvotes

that people Could retaliate if they new who downvoted them. I assume the person would then go look up all the questions and downvote the opposing persons questions.

gnat

A: Someone flagged my question as already answered, but it's not

what's the best way to prevent these "helpful" flaggings in the future? Although you put this word into ironic quotes, it is helpful indeed, and instead of preventing, you better learn to use these flaggings to your advantage. Just think of it: someone invested their effort, did some rese...

Jane S

@crh225 Serial downvoting gets caught by the system and reversed.

crh225

21:27

so @gnat, in your opinion did it fall in your point 1,2, or 3

because if it is number 2, I already used your resolution

gnat

@crh225 it's your opinion that matters here. You're the asker, you know better. If you pick #2, you better make sure that explanation of the difference looks convincing to readers, I've seen too many questions failing this because askers simply added something like "it's not a dupe", expecting that readers would believe their word. There's actually a "template" there in section 2, showing how it could look like,

> There is another question that reads similar, but it is actually different, because of <explain what are the differences between what you need and what is needed in that other question>.

crh225

I did that.

I have read this question, but my issue is a little bit more specific: how do I get one person to not talk for as long in a scrum? I'm the scrum master.

the other question is about normal business meetings not development meetings

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