@AgiHammerthief sorry to hear that. From my experience I had sit down and ask myself how honest I am, experience and hands on talents don’t equal each other. I seen ppl who had been in a job for 5 yrs yet they couldn’t do a thing, some ppl only 3 and have exp of 10.
The key is practice, I have lost jobs and still suck at it coz I want to move up in the world and moving up require real assessment of yourself. I suck at stuff which I been doing for a while now “some basic” but I ask myself why and I concluded I was flying high coz I thought if I can do something it must be easy
I was wrong, it was practice that made it easy. Things which I have ignore and not practice still bit me like you mention. Yes when we spend time on a x language we say oh we know but do we? One feel shame revisiting basic or practice it but when u do and start practicing u release the real reason someone laid u off. It may not be always you it might be other as well like bad team or bad employer I have seen it all. Yet humans don’t learn.
Speaking of time est. I suck at it. But I have taken something’s from being in this chat room and one is always take 3x of time which can be spend on a task. I can be honest and tell you I haven’t applied that coz I fear I might loss job coz they will say he is so slow. Then again u will loose job if u don’t do task in given time.
How easy is it to get honest feedback from your colleagues? At my job, I have to make a personal development plan every year, and it's mostly based on feedback from co-workers. When I just started there were only 2 things: Learn to work with Linux and understand the basic architecture of the application I started working on.
I did that, and a bit more, since review comments on my code showed some problems caused mainly by a lack of understanding of one framework used. People at my job are pretty honest at giving feedback, so that right now I'm working very hard at my code quality and revie…
Good point @Tinkeringbell I asked “areas to improve” before weekend from my colleague and he told me. Finding time with family is very hard but when I had reviewed a course I was able to understand I was missing crucial parts
@Tinkeringbell 3 weeks into my job and the guy had made a impression on me. He is too good but when ask about something his way is so loud and sometime humiliating that I had to ask myself twice before asking him.
@Nofel Thank you for your response. It's really helpful.
"I thought if I could do something, it must be easy."
"One feel shame revisiting basic or practice it ..."
Yeah, me too. Worse, though, I thought that meant I could do other things too and they would be easy and asking for (and making use of) help from others would make me look stupid/lazy. (I have a fear of people thinking I'm stupid that goes back to when I was a kid with a different way of learning that meant I got labelled "slow".)
@Tinkeringbell I'm not sure about that. I have talked to two of the senior developers in the team I work with, as well as my boss about it. They seem to get angry and frustrated with me. My boss has told me they don't want to work with me and are looking for reasons to fire me, so I don't know if I can trust them to give me an honest assessment.
I have, however, spoken to the man I used to work for and he said he wished I'd tested my code more before it went out.
@AgiHammerthief Sounds like you're not in a good environment for honest feedback right now, but at least you've got something you can work on: test your code ;) Maybe focus on writing automated tests?
I've also been told (by at least two people in the team) not to "waste time" on test frameworks. (Just two of the questions that have been posed to me are: How do you know your test code doesn't contain a bug? How do you know the framework you're using doesn't contain bugs?)
@AgiHammerthief Wut?! Uhmmm.... Well, the way I was raised, you write an automated test for every part of functionality you build... happy flow and non-happy flow :/
Just when I was considering making a comeback, one of our regular users joins the elite club of people who cannot read more than 2 sentences before they are ready to criticize. :(
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