The Water Cooler

7:15 AM

I can't think what I could do to earn myself a network ban, I think I'm just too nice for that kind of thing.

7:49 AM

Morning everyone.

8:07 AM

@Pete You could certainly offer your association bonus as bounty on 50+ sites. Choose questions that are at least 3 years old with a score of -5 or lower. That should put you on the right track.

8:29 AM

And change my screen name it 'StackExchange Sucks Ass' while I'm at it...?

gnat

8:43 AM

@DavidK you have it backwards, I think. Advice to start with chat doesn't really make sense. You're right that this time I've got this thoroughly covered and discussed in chat but this was only because it started at meta. I already told you that my prior attempts to start from chat were proven useless (I gave 3 examples but there may be more, I only picked what was easy to find). If I learned anything it's that the working way to get things done in chat is to start with meta

Kaz

8:55 AM

@GrayCygnus God no. I just ran it through a generator out of curiosity, and to get a feel for what I'm emphasising as an overall impression.

Q: I have a good CV, what now?

9:20 AM

I wonder what would happen if I ran that generator on my corporate PST file.

Lilienthal

Oh boy, this OP is in for a rude awakening:

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I spent some years obtaining a good CV. Finishing bachelor wihtout ever failing a subject, good grades, going international (I'm European) to obtain a good master degree and international experience, internships, laguanges... That ends up now having a pretty decent CV, not a one in a thousand, b...

resume

10:19 AM

@Pete That will help too. :)

@Kaz I was wondering who Michael Armstrong is.

Erik

@Lilienthal it's unsurprising the education system doesn't tell you how little your degree will mean, but quite hard on some folks when they find out.

Lilienthal

11:00 AM

@Erik Yeah I have to agree. It's "follow your interests" and "chase your dreams" from kindergarten all the way through college and then you graduate and suddenly the real world hits you like a ton of bricks. It's particularly perverse in the US considering the debt people amass but every country seems to be failing to properly prepare young adults for the realities of the workplace and everything that involves.

Actually perhaps I should consider the Asian countries an exception but I doubt I'd have preferred that system growing up and certainly not some of their working conditions.

Erik

I don't even think "follow your interests" is the worst of it. The biggest problem I've seen is people who think that good grades matter for anything. What matters is what to grades represent, which is skill and ability. Which you can also get in many ways that won't reflect on your grades, but will be seen by employers. And you can get good grades without actually learning the skills.

Too much interest in the symbols and too little in what they actually mean. Or are supposed to mean.

Kaz

11:17 AM

@Erik The way I like to think of it goes like this: Your job is to be useful. More directly, your job is to make your boss's life easier.

Everything else is just abstractions.

Erik

Hm, I don't necessarily mean to make my boss's life easier. I often make his life very hard :)

I generally seek to make the company or product more successful. That usually involves a lot of hard choices and such.

1:31 PM

@MaskedMan Except Lilienthal said that the suspension had nothing to do with the bounties.

john doe

Hi guys

I was thinking what is the best way of knowing a company culture?

1:49 PM

Talk to people who work there

or have in the recent past

2:10 PM

or with time you will find out.

Speaking of cultures, why women can wear anything and Men cannot.

bear in mind that in larger companies (I work at a Fortune 10) the culture can vary quite a bit from one department to another.

I use to wear red trainers and HR had issue

women can wear red trainers?

in my old company, while some lady was wearing very deep neck

and did always

no one had problem with it

like wtf

@Kaz On useful work, have you ever read anything by David Graeber? He's famous for an article titled 'Bullshit Jobs'

2:14 PM

in my opinion, to pretend men and women are the same in a culture is stupid. A woman wearing a plunging neckline can look good (depending on how far it goes). A man wears one and he looks like a porn star.

ROFLOL

It was too provoking

but yet It was in my firing notice

one point

I wore bright colours

what could I do, If nike had red in that only

so yea ur right

to pretend men and women are the same in a culture is stupid

About levelling things out in dress codes, I'd like to see codes relaxed for men, rather than made stricter for women

The company I work for has a casual day every Friday, and it's a very different atmosphere

hrmattersblog.com/dress-code/…

it is what it is.

@ChristopherEstep Here you go: Suspiciously Specific Denial :P

in my building, the culture is business casual except for only about one guy who always wears a tie. as an aside, he looks exactly like the old man in Home Alone.

2:20 PM

Funny the document exclude they

@ChristopherEstep That aside, I only said that doing that would put him on the right track. It is upto him to take it forward from there by trolling and causing other kinds of nuisance. ;)

@MaskedMan To the man with a hammer, everything loks like a nail. I swear, everything is supposedly a trope these days.

though that's more a general complaint than directed at you specifically.

@ChristopherEstep You mean this? When All You Have Is A Hammer :)

David K

@Nofel Sounds like they wanted to get rid of you and needed an excuse to build a case

exactly. That's not a trope. It's a metaphor.

2:23 PM

@DavidK true and I am worried about my current employeement too

I got to finish all jira ticket

so no work

I think if I owned that website I'd blow my brains out. It's so banal

@ChristopherEstep I took that as a compliment though, didn't realize it was a complaint. Insult Backfire

they might make me redudant

they all need excuses

I'm sure there's a supposedly a "bitching about tropes" trope.

I don't know, the tropes website may help writers avoid cliches

2:26 PM

@ChristopherEstep I think this should do TVTropes Will Ruin Your Life

Although from my perspective, TVTropes Will Enhance Your Life

@jserv It has been life-changing for me. I suddenly have a greater appreciation for tv shows, movies, and life in general.

Happy to hear it, @MaskedMan

For example, when I am watching a movie, I see what trope each event fits into. Since I have read about that trope in detail, I have a better appreciation for why the author chose to do things in that way.

I see other people complain about why this character did this stupid thing, but I have a better insight into it, and I can enjoy it instead of complaining.

Remember Tropes Are Tools aka Tropes Are Not Bad. :)

So you're more or less seeing it as a form of literary analysis

What are Tropes

Common and oft-used ideas in fiction, I guess, @Nofel

2:36 PM

@Nofel You are standing at a point of no return. Once you find the answer to that question, life will never be the same. Are you sure you want to proceed? ;)

yes Lets see how deep the rabbi holes goes

:)

I am tv addict FYI

@Nofel Well, then this should be a good starting point for you. Lampshade Hanging

Make sure to open links to every other trope in background tabs, and read them in turn. :)

@MaskedMan Cruel suggestion. This advice is for people who want to still be reading it at 1am.

that's better than Factorio..

yea I am unable to finish my book lately

coz of so many things I wanna do all toghter.

CSS, JS and Angular

2:45 PM

@enderland I wonder how much I'd pay to get back the hours of my life I spent playing Minecraft, Theme Hospital, Theme Park, Black and White etc.

A lot of my time has gone into world building computer games

If they could give ROI

we would be rich

I was addicted to lego and yet I am (got my kid first lego, I was more excited them him)

2

and then I would spend hours playing max payne

SWAT

scribble

I want my eye sight 6x6

More than anything

I still build lego kits. The one I have on the go right now is 3500 pieces.

@Pete you buying the new Millennium Falcon?

@Pete What on earth are you building, if you don't mind me asking?

Seriously considering it, yes. Although it's not much bigger than the existing set. probably more detailed. still, it's a big stack of money.

2:50 PM

It just upsetting when someone break ur model

@jserv set #42055 - bucket wheel excavator. Built the 'A' model, now doing the 'B' before I sell it on.

and when ur kid does it, u wanna cry

The pain comes when you find you did the wrong thing deep inside a really complicated section and you have to carefully tear the whole model apart to fix it.

@Pete I've got the Imperial Star Destroyer 10030 I think and have considered selling it in order to buy the Falcon and not feel bad ;)

Terrifying but interesting looking bit of machinery there

2:52 PM

Sweet, that one is worth $2500 and upwards. I was thinking of it myself, but it's a large price to pay for what it really is.

@Pete But that's great for a lot of things, problem solving, manual skill, thinking about how to dismantle and rebuild something methodically

It's like you're a microengineer or micromechanic

I think that many people will buy the UCS Falcon as an investment, but I think it'll be a long time before it really makes money.

I did think about ordering two and putting one into storage for a few years.

Wait, apparently microengineers already exist, and they do things on a molecular level... You guys know what I mean, though.

The best set I've built is the Apollo rocket. it's a real work of love.

@Pete I paid only like $200 for the 10030 model when I bought it in I think 2008?

it's worth quite a bit now :)

2:58 PM

@Pete 2500 for what

@nofel. Go into ebay and search for 'lego 10030' and look at the prices.

oic

its a fleet

Ok, maybe $1000 now. I could swear I was seeing them go for over 2 grand.

600 quid in uk

No, it's just one super star destroyer. there's a little 'normal' star destroyer that goes with it.

3:02 PM

Only problem with little blocks are. my little one is almost 2 yrs

so he might choke on it.

oh wow

people sell it

made

No, they take photos made and then take it apart. some people also sell reproduction models of it far cheaper. or sell the lepin version, which is pretty junk.

It's never occurred to me before now that there would be counterfeit Lego sets

Lepin. Chinese brand that basically copies the original lego but uses cheaper and weaker plastic. And of course, they don't pay licensing fees or reward the original design teams....

I guess that's what a lot of what Chinese industry is about, cheaper reproduction of existing things

China doesn't really have much of a concept of copyright or trademarks. The CEO of a company I used to work for (CDC Software) initially made his money in selling pirated ringtones in China (the CDC stands for China Dot Com).

3:16 PM

Wild West (East?) capitalism

@Pete I can't find that piece on lego site

What piece?

'lego 10030

It was discontinued back in 2009 or so. That's why it's rising in price.

I buy quite a few sets from ebay and sell them on after I've built them. Bit cheaper that way.

I wouldn't know if they are real or not

so better buy from lego

GrayCygnus

3:23 PM

good morning people

I also love legos :D

You get a feel for whether things are real or not. Photos of the box helps. As always, if something is being sold for too cheap, something's wrong with it.

lego FTW

I swear I was so excited to go in lego shop

with my toddler

like I became busy making model and my son was so excited, he punched it

he is still 18 months old

GrayCygnus

ever been to Lego Land anyone? Or the one on Downtown Disney, Orlando?