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Yuuki

01:07

Is this a "choose one" or checklist sort of thing?

two bugs

You can do either, really.

It's just to see what types of games people want to play

Some people really like conflict between party members to drive the story, whereas others don't

user15026

I don't like interparty conflict but that's more because I had issues with my group using that as a way to resolve their relationship issues (they wanted to date, were too nervous irl, so used character conflict to work out some stuff around that)

user15026

(Needless to say the group didn't last long)

Unionhawk

At least none of us (probably) want to date (I hope)

>_>

user15026

01:23

My dance card is full in that respect :P

GodEmperorDune

01:52

Save the drama for the bridge proper, where it belongs

Unionhawk

-bridge

+recursing:

UR Live - The New Crew - Episode 4

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Yuuki

Well, I'm flexible.

GodEmperorDune

I picked stuff that I felt would work for a mix of experienced and first time players, but really meant it as a starting point

Unionhawk

So, recursing is probably off the table then

Yuuki

13:54

So I think we should do a character building session either today or tomorrow.

Or did we already schedule one for tomorrow.

?

two bugs

14:05

I don't think either is scheduled, but I agree

GodEmperorDune

16:01

sounds good to me

MadMAxJr

Always make sure your party has: A rope. A light source. Some water. A container (vial, small box, empty keg, whatever). A means to start a fire.

A tool is usually good too, such as a crowbar/prybar

GodEmperorDune

@MadMAxJr ah, such ripe joke material

MadMAxJr

Well no, that's actually handy stuff.

GodEmperorDune

@MadMAxJr i meant more along the lines of "well such and such is a tool"

user15026

What time tomorrow? (I forgot about it, so I need to make sure I am awake and not like getting groceries then or something)

GodEmperorDune

16:07

> 11p/12m/1c/2e on Sunday

user15026

Oh, okay. If I'm not awake by two I have bigger issues :P

GodEmperorDune

as an fyi, best prep for building a character is to think about what you want your character to be good at

MadMAxJr

Doesn't hurt to have an idea what other players are trying to make too.

user15026

I will start thinking about that between calls and ladder training (I don't know why I need ladder training)

MadMAxJr

If you have a party full of specialists, you could be in for a bad time.

GodEmperorDune

16:11

@MadMAxJr most important rule is to have fun

party balance comes second

MadMAxJr

At least one person should be able to heal and at least one should be able to hit more than one target with something.

GodEmperorDune

@MadMAxJr those make it much easier, but it is not impossible to play without them

GodEmperorDune

16:44

i just tehn through the roll20.net tutorial. the tool is pretty comprehensive

MadMAxJr

If you're using the on-board PF sheets, they can be a little tricky at firt..

first

two bugs

17:24

@GodEmperorDune Yeah. Figure out what you want to do, and how to do it.

Focus more on archetypes

How do you want to kill? Punch? Sword? Magic? Talk?

Sneak? Arrow?

MadMAxJr

Having a person good at non-combat is always a plus. Usually the heavy skill characters like rogues take that up.

GodEmperorDune

party face is also good, for someone charisma based

because without diplomacy, your shit will get rekt

MadMAxJr

Unless you wreck them first.

Also, anyone considering Barbarian, I would recommend the Unchained Barbarian. Sort of a barb 1.5 patch

Yuuki

18:45

@MadMAxJr I think I'm going factotum so I can be the generalist.

user15026

I like the idea of playing someone who tries to just like...charm their way out of things

user15026

(and then hit them if that doesn't work :P)

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn like talk your way out of it or magically compel others to do your bidding?

user15026

Haha like talk my way out (forgot about the other way)

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn you might like a swashbuckler

d20pfsrd.com/classes/hybrid-classes/swashbuckler

> Combining fancy footwork with quick and precise lunges, swashbucklers dart in and out of battle, harassing and thwarting their opponents. These fast and agile combatants serve as protectors for spellcasters and flank mates for rogues and slayers, while waiting for the opportunity to show panache and score the killing blow on some lumbering hulk. Swashbucklers often face death with wry humor, mocking it with jabbing wit.

clerics can also do that, but go more magical

d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/cleric

> More than capable of upholding the honor of their deities in battle, clerics often prove stalwart and capable combatants. Their true strength lies in their capability to draw upon the power of their deities, whether to increase their own and their allies' prowess in battle, to vex their foes with divine magic, or to lend healing to companions in need. As their powers are influenced by their faith, all clerics must focus their worship upon a divine source.

and there is always the bard

d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard

> Bards capably confuse and confound their foes while inspiring their allies to ever-greater daring. While accomplished with both weapons and magic, the true strength of bards lies outside melee, where they can support their companions and undermine their foes without fear of interruptions to their performances.

Yuuki

19:10

Sorceror might also be good since they scale with Charisma.

GodEmperorDune

very true

but they tend to be physically frail

and i assumed the hit was a physical hit

user15026

@GodEmperorDune It was :)

user15026

(aka I make a terrible pacifist sometimes)

user15026

@GodEmperorDune This sounds fun!

two bugs

21:01

Swashbuckler is honestly one of my favorite classes. It's awesome.

Yuuki

Sorcerer is nice if you want to be a charmer since not only do they scale to Charisma, they get access to spells to help you. And Fireballs to the face when negotiations turn... aggressive.

GodEmperorDune

21:22

spellcasting can be a bit more complex for a new player

Yuuki

Sorcerer is easier though since they don't plan their spells out at the beginning of the day.

GodEmperorDune

true

i'm sure someone will want to bring the AOE dps

Yuuki

@AshleyNunn That was me. I was playing a cleric once and my backstory had me being a pacifist.

I ended up doing the most damage and having the most kills that campaign.

GodEmperorDune

you tracked damage and kills?

also was it an undead-heavy campaign?

Yuuki

Sorta eyeballing it.

@GodEmperorDune Not at all.

GodEmperorDune

21:25

nice

Yuuki

It helped that my god's favored weapon was the double-bladed sword.

And this was the goddess of love and healing.

GodEmperorDune

speaking of deities, are we using the official pathfinder ones or some other set?

hi @John

John

hiya

Feeds

GodEmperorDune has added John to the list of this room's owners.

GodEmperorDune

i made an exec decision to go with pathfinder

John

21:33

sounds good to me

GodEmperorDune

let me pull some of the more interesting stuff from transcript

23 hours ago, by GodEmperorDune

Who prepares the story?
The GM prepares the overall shape of the story, linear or branching; players run their characters through these events. The GM gives hints to provide direction.

The players’ roles are to set goals for their characters, and pursue them proactively.

Player characters are expected to work together; conflicts between them are mostly for show.

Doing the smartest thing for your character’s survival sometimes isn’t as important as other choices.

The GM’s role regarding the rules is ignore them when they conflict with what “should” happen, based either on realism, the se…

John

+1

GodEmperorDune

yesterday, by GodEmperorDune

in The Bridge, 17 hours ago, by GodEmperorDune

if we have a lot of people interested who can't always make it, we can do a "adventurers for hire" type of setting. All the characters are part of some larger guild, each session is an encapsulated mission, whoever is available that day goes on the mission

John

@GodEmperorDune I think most people were in favor of that

GodEmperorDune

yep yep

so we're starting to figure out characters

John

21:41

hmm

GodEmperorDune

so think about what type of stuff you want your character to be good at and we can recommend some classes

4 hours ago, by two bugs

How do you want to kill? Punch? Sword? Magic? Talk?

John

magic

GodEmperorDune

nice

John

I seem to do well as a healer in most games

sit behind people and make sure they don't die

that kind of thing

GodEmperorDune

cool

your standard healers are clerics

d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/cleric

John

21:43

can they magic stuff to death, too?

GodEmperorDune

depending on how you want to specialize, definitely

John

cool

I'll probably go with that then

GodEmperorDune

lol, i'm too slow at listing other options

pallies can heal as well

and pathfinder also has the oracle

d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle

which can specialize to heal as well

but lean much more magic heavy than clerics, which are magic + melee fighting

so far we have @john as a healer, @AshleyNunn as a swashbuckler, @Yuuki as a factotum, @Unionhawk as TBD, @SaintWacko as TBD, and myself as TBD

SaintWacko

What would you recommend for someone who has never played before?

GodEmperorDune

12 mins ago, by GodEmperorDune

4 hours ago, by two bugs

How do you want to kill? Punch? Sword? Magic? Talk?

Unionhawk

21:54

If we are doing this thing tomorrow then I am currently out

SaintWacko

Oh, sorry, didn't see that discussion

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk no worries, you can hop on the next week session

@SaintWacko definitely not a problem

SaintWacko

Hmm, Arcanist, Swashbuckler, and Investigator sound interesting

GodEmperorDune

cool

so your arcanist will cast spells, lots of them

swashbuckler and investigator are much more in the thick of the combat

John

A time mystery oracle looks cool

GodEmperorDune

22:04

@John yeah those abilities are pretty cool

John

I think I wanna be a time mystery elf oracle

GodEmperorDune

@John do eeet!

so i half rolled a healer in case we need it, now to make some tanks

GodEmperorDune

22:20

@John the next decisions you should make are which oracle curse you'll get, followed by which of the oracle spells you'll know

MadMAxJr

Clouded vision isn't bad if you're playing a race that doesn't get Darkvision.

John

22:35

Being a child oracle seems interesting

Yuuki

22:49

I wonder if I can argue for getting the chameleon's aptitude focus for my empty 18th level.

Though I don't really wanna play up to that level.

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