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09:58
@Huy How integral do you think the measure theory appendix is? Maybe I will just refer to it as I need it. If we are all going to study together, should we pick parts of the text to work on?
Huy
Huy
@GaloisintheField: As said, I'll go through the chapters one by one, until chapter 4, and then I'll decide which I'll take on next. I think it's quite integral, it pretty short though, so why skip it?
@Huy Oh I have been reading it and I get a feeling I'll forget it all, but that is true, it is short
10:25
@Huy Chapters one by one means doing all the exercises btw?
Huy
Huy
@GaloisintheField: I think the most important results are monotone and dominated convergence, the rest is mostly notation.
Oh god I haven't done analysis in awhile and I am having trouble with what I assume is the easiest thing in world, exercise 1.1
I am going to say it is unique, but I don't know how to show it
Huy
Huy
@GaloisintheField: do you know how standard "it is unique" proofs work?
I can't recall
Huy
Huy
also, theoretically, you could skip over the first chapter, it's just a bunch of (cool) examples where functional analysis can be applied. the actual function analysis starts in chapter 2, but you can start in chapter 1 of course
say there's a function $f$ that has certain properties and you want to show it's unique. usually you assume $g$ is another such function and then you use the properties that $f$ and $g$ both satisfy to show $f = g$
or you assume they're different at some point, and then you get a contradiction
10:33
Okay I'll give it a shot
I let $e_1(x) = \frac{f(x)+f(-x)}{2}$ and assumed this was not equal to $e_2(x)$. Then:

$$f(x) = e_2(x) + \frac{f(x)-f(-x)}{2}$$
$$\implies e_2(x) = \frac{f(x)+f(-x)}{2} = e_1(x)$$

so they are equal
Hence unique
Huy
Huy
@GaloisintheField: For this proof, you already assume $o(x) = \frac{f(x)-f(-x)}{2}$, no?
Oh damn, I misunderstood the question as show that the even part was unique puh
Huy
Huy
no, you need to show the decomposition into odd and even part is unique :)
Okay haha, I promise I won't be asking trivial stuff soon ahaha
Huy
Huy
don't worry about it.
where do you study, btw?
10:43
Part time at the university of Melbourne
Huy
Huy
ok
It's a high rated university in Australia
Huy
Huy
btw, at the end of the book, there are hints for selected exercises
if you ever try to solve one that you really have no idea how to tackle, maybe you find something useful there
Oh that is really good, thanks
Huy
Huy
if you don't see how to do it after 15 minutes, just tell me
10:49
Okay thanks, hopefully I'll get it :)
\begin{align}
f(x) =& e_1(x)+o_1(x) = e_2(x) + o_2(x)\\
\implies& e_1(x)-e_2(x) = o_2(x)-o_1(x)
\end{align}

Fix $x>0$

Then:

\begin{align}
e_1(x)-e_2(x) =& o_2(x)-o_1(x)\\
\implies& e_1(-x)-e_2(-x) = o_2(-x)-o_1(-x)\\
\implies& e_1-e_2 = o_1(x)-o_2(x)\\
\implies& o_1(x)-o_2(x)=o_2(x)-o_1(x)\\
\implies& o_1(x)=o_2(x)\\
\implies& e_1(x)-e_2(x)=0\\
\implies& e_1(x)=e_2(x)
\end{align}
Done
And hence uniqueness and since the given $e$ and $o$ satisfy the requirements it follows they are equal(by uniqueness) to the ones here
Huy
Huy
yeah that should work
Now I feel a little better haha
Huy
Huy
^^
 
2 hours later…
13:11
What time are you usually on btw @Huy?
Huy
Huy
@GaloisintheField: Depends heavily on what I'm working on.
Probably a lot less from next week on.

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