Minecraft Talk

user43095

00:00

@Coronus is astonished.

Coronus

@jeffreylin_ :O

user43095

Anyway, what did you have when you died?

Coronus

@jeffreylin_ Are you talking to me?

user43095

Yes

Coronus

Don't worry about it. The server saved all of her stuff.

user43095

00:08

Hooray.

Coronus

Did you get the goggles back?

user43095

@Coronus Yes, but I don't really need them

Coronus

@jeffreylin_ Still, she didn't want to keep something of yours. What were they?

user43095

Goggles of revealing

Jigokuniku

05:49

@fredley Hey do you happen to have any ebony saplings we might be able to borrow? We need the black wood to match our basalt base, and I could replace the saplings once I get a sustainable source for us ^^

fredley

08:33

@Jigokuniku Yes, but I need to make sure I keep enough pure bred saplings in my collection. I'll sort you out a set later today

JiaWei Yang

09:02

hi

NightExcessive

@JiaWeiYang Hello!

Jigokuniku

@fredley Sounds good. I'd appreciate it ^^

JiaWei Yang

it is verry quite here

:P

Jigokuniku

Yeah... not a lot of people around this time of day

fredley

@JiaWeiYang It's not as quiet as it was a few months ago, it's actually relatively active these days

NightExcessive

10:01

@fredley Do we have any time planned for switching to Ultimate?

fredley

@NightExcessive Nope, but if loads of people want to make the switch we can do so whenever.

NightExcessive

@fredley I'd love to do it as soon as possible. Ultimate was much less buggy for me than Direwolf20 has been.

fredley

@NightExcessive Right. @RonanForman what do you reckon?

M'vy

Hum. Induction heater is broken?

Hiya BTW

Extractor too

fredley

@M'vy Has it got a redstone signal? Needs one to stay on.

@M'vy Something up with the solar panel? Is there energy in the MFSU?

M'vy

10:11

it has the lever

yes

fredley

@M'vy Odd. Is the red 'power' indicator on in the machine GUI?

M'vy

nope

neither the macerator nor the extractor has it

But the compressor does

fredley

@M'vy Odd.

@M'vy Any cable missing?

M'vy

can't tell

Recycler seems find too

damn, crash again...

user43095

The machine room has an MV solar.. How did the power go out?

M'vy

10:33

There seem too be things under the machine

MV-Trasnformer under the MFSU

LV-Trans under the compressor

Then glass tubes

It's glass fiber tubes

fredley

@M'vy Yeh, these are needed to convert the power down to the right voltage. Make sure all the glass cables are there. Then try breaking (with an electric wrench) the machines and replacing them.

NightExcessive

@fredley Do you mind if we use your preformatter?

M'vy

hm I bug when I get back to my house with the book

fredley

@NightExcessive For formatting thingys for the Molecular Fab? Sure, go ahead

I'd rather you didn't do masses of crafting with my Fab though, as some resources (believe it or not) are low.

NightExcessive

@fredley Nono, the ME Preformatter

fredley

10:44

@NightExcessive That's what I meant, the off-network block for making crafting recipe things

NightExcessive

@fredley The Preformatter is the one that sets what can be stored in a storage thing.

fredley

@NightExcessive Yeah, of course you can use it

NightExcessive

@fredley Thanks!

Does anyone know how to get Dark Iron Ingots?

M'vy

seems power is back

I just charged my wrench

fredley

@NightExcessive Yes!

What you do is make some Iron blocks, and set them on fire with a wrath igniter.

Do this in a safe place

Wrath fire is extremely destructive

If you burn the server down I will not be happy!

My recommendation: Start the wrath fire in a bedrock pit made by a quarry.

For reference, this is roughly the area of effect of wrath fire:

NightExcessive

10:53

This could go terribly wrong!

fredley

@NightExcessive At the very least, do it a long way from the village. Do it in a desert for glass-based fun

NightExcessive

@fredley Indeed. Some random desert thousands of blocks away.

fredley

@NightExcessive Yes.

M'vy

why does it keeps crashing!

NightExcessive

@M'vy What does 'it' refer to?

Jigokuniku

10:56

@M'vy I've been on this whole time... Dunno.

M'vy

Java

Jigokuniku

@M'vy Because it's Java?

M'vy

Almost each time I try to get back to my place by link

then I crash

NightExcessive

@fredley Created a single player creative world to test. Holy crap.

fredley

@NightExcessive Yeah...

@M'vy Oh, what's the error? Client crash or server kick?

M'vy

10:58

client crash

fredley

@M'vy Check your java version?

What's the crash report look like? Memory or something?

M'vy

I updated recently, but I will again

NightExcessive

@fredley Turned an entire beach into glass. Still going.

@fredley At least lighting the glass turns it back into sand.

fredley

@NightExcessive So like I said, take care :-P

M'vy

Full java reinstallation

fredley

11:13

@M'vy Are you on an x64 machine? If so remember you need x86 and x64 java

M'vy

Yes I am

hm

I used their downloader

will see

Anybody have lags?

NightExcessive

@M'vy Not particularly.

M'vy

ok, 64bits java download coming

It's acting odd again

Removed it does not change.

But, recharging smtgh in the MFSU is working

like if redstone current was updated by this

fredley

11:29

@M'vy Hmmm. There's not any weird redstone emitting stuff around is there?

M'vy

idk

fredley

@M'vy I'll take a look later

M'vy

I'm trying to replace the MFSU to see if it's beter

mdSeuss

Can I ask a total noob minecraft 'server' question?

fredley

11:44

@mdSeuss Go ahead!

mdSeuss

I know about running servers (I have static IP addresses at home) but I know nothing about minecraft. Is it worthwhile to run your own minecraft server? Are there parts of minecraft that can only be enjoyed with paid accounts? Or are paid accounts just to get access to professionally hosted servers with the same server code?

M'vy

I might have repaired it

fredley

@mdSeuss You have to pay for a mojang account to play Minecraft

Once you have an account, you can play on any public server

You can also play locally offline (you still need an account to do this)

Note: this is a one-off payment, you never need to pay a subscription

mdSeuss

Awesome, NOW I understand. Thank you very much!

M'vy

12:20

Server crashed?

Jigokuniku

Mhmm

NightExcessive

@M'vy Not crash, lagged

M'vy

Prety hard lag

NightExcessive

@M'vy I caused it to generate a bunch of chunks.

M'vy

12:45

Timeout

fredley

Generating chunks does cause massive lag

Warn people, or ideally do it when they're no there

M'vy

Ok, I'm slowly rebuilding my stuff

fredley

13:02

@M'vy Rebuilding? You lose stuff?

M'vy

lava

fredley

@M'vy :(

M'vy

yeah

fredley

@M'vy At least TC research is persistent!

M'vy

yeah

M'vy

14:15

ARGHARGH need powwwer!

These solar generator are slow :S

I'd be faster to mine with a bare hand

M'vy

14:55

@fredley you might want to take a look to magma crucible and the liquid transposer

I tried to figure it out, but could not find anyway to get the magma from the former to the latter and into cans last night

fredley

@M'vy Eh?

@M'vy Oh, I'll take you through it later

The TE configuration is a bit strange at first

@M'vy Welcome to FTB!

@M'vy To charge quickly, place things in MFSU in the workshop

M'vy

I think there is still some leftover in the liquid tansposer (75mb)

@fredley trying to make a redstone cell

But I need to empty the crucible (and transposer?)

So as I can put redstone into my frmae

fredley

@M'vy You want to fill the transposer with redstone, it must be on input mode (click the bucket)

There must be no other liquids in it otherwise it can't fill

M'vy

Yes I figured that out, but how can I reset them?

Is it safe to remove both without risking flooding the room with I don't know : lava?

fredley

15:13

@M'vy You won't flood, but you'll lose the liquid

M'vy

I removed the liquid trans, then put it back, the crucible automatically filled it

\o/ thx

fredley

@M'vy np

M'vy

I put a chest in the community room, I put the portable tanks in there

fredley

@M'vy They are handy

It's a bit hard to explain how they work, but you can dump excess liquid in them while you're using another

M'vy

I was being sure they were'nt messing up the config

fredley

15:17

@M'vy They won't affect it

M'vy

Ok, now I need to power my redstone cell

fredley

@M'vy Buildcraft energy, which comes from engines

Usually a redstone energy cell is quite a way up the tech tree :-P

Ronan Forman

We can update to Ultimate now if we want.

M'vy

Hm, actually I hoped to power an engine with that

fredley

@RonanForman I don't mind. Solars is the only change right?

M'vy

15:20

well that's a problem, I can't know by the name what they are use for

fredley

@RonanForman Wait an hour or two until I'm online?

@M'vy Engines are powered by other things, biogas, fuel, EU, and generate Buildcraft Energy (MJ)

Ronan Forman

@fredley Sure thing.

fredley

@M'vy The cell stores MJ, acting as a battery

M'vy

hm

Bascially my pb is: I need to power my quarry with sufficient outpu

I put an electrical engine with a solar panel, but it was working too slow

fredley

@M'vy Easy ways to generate fuel for engines early on: electrical (from solars), hobbyist steam engine (requires topping up with coal and water), biogas or peat

@M'vy Yeah, electrical is good for low power things. You can upgrade them with tubes to increase EU consumption and energy output, but that requires more EU input too

Ronan Forman

15:38

I almost forgot Greg tech nerfs bees, hopefully it's a config.

fredley

@RonanForman Booo GregTech. Boooooo.

M'vy

Hum biogas engine seems fait

maybe Ill need a second one though

Plus I run on water so :S

fredley

@M'vy fait?

M'vy

fair

fredley

@M'vy Yeah. Need to make and store the biogas, so it needs some infrastructure.

M'vy

15:48

Would have tried to squeeze some seed, but the sueezer seems occupied

fredley

@M'vy Yeah, seeds from the community farm seem a good way to go

In the end you'll want something more automated, like a tree farm -> saplings

M'vy

In the end, I hope I'll have enough solar power to be autonomous

fredley

@M'vy Solar is not enough on its own (also: I struggle crafting HV solars, they are crazy expense balls!)

M'vy

I found 3 radiocative ore, but I don't think I can go nuclera right now :P

fredley

@M'vy No, I haven't even gone nuclear yet

Although I may, given the power requirements of my ore processing at the moment

M'vy

16:02

I don't think the biogas engine accepts portable water tanks as input?

JLaBella

Which feed the best modpack does this server run?

fredley

@M'vy No, they only work with TE machines

@JLaBella Direwolf20, but I think we're switching to Ultimate tonight

Ronan Forman

@fredley Can't find a config for the bees.

fredley

@RonanForman I don't care :-P

Coronus

What is Ultimate?

fredley

16:08

@Coronus Ultimate pack. It has more cool mods

Ronan Forman

@fredley Well if I can't fix it we're not having gregtech.

Coronus

@fredley I ask because I don't see that listed where I see DW20 pack.

fredley

@RonanForman Agreed

@RonanForman We don't want it anyway I thought?

@Coronus We list ourselves as DW20, it doesn't work the other way around!

Ronan Forman

@fredley It adds some useful things, and I've got everything bad but the bees removed.

fredley

@RonanForman Ok. I don't really mind if it's not there. What does it add?

Ronan Forman

16:12

@fredley Mainly mod cross recipes, like ways to macerate rp gem ores and things.

fredley

@RonanForman Eh, don't really mind that much

@NightExcessive You want to help out too? Don't know if your scripts will need any modification for Ultimate. I'm guessing not but worth checking

NightExcessive

@fredley It probably won't require modification. I'm going to bed fairly soon, though.

fredley

@NightExcessive Ok. If it doesn't work we'll just have to deal with a laggy server for a bit :-P

Coronus

Oh, so this is immediate!

@fredley No, sorry. I was looking for what the Ultimate pack is, a reference.

fredley

@Coronus Yeah. You shouldn't notice any change except more delicious recipes in NEI and different solars

@Coronus Oh. It's on the FTB site.

NightExcessive

16:15

@fredley And possibly less bugginess!

fredley

@NightExcessive We can only hope!

Coronus

@fredley So I'll be doing more @_@ and trying to figure out what to build. ^_^

fredley

@Coronus Haha, it's ok, Ultimate will be new to all of us!

Coronus

@fredley Anything changing on the bee front? I was going to start going with those little guys.

fredley

@Coronus I don't think so, will double check.

Ronan Forman

16:18

@Coronus Nope, I'm making sure greg tech doesn't touch them. If I can't I'll remove greg tech.

fredley

@RonanForman This worth checking out? forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/…

Ronan Forman

@fredley I don't see any mention of the issue.

fredley

@RonanForman It says stuff about gregtech and bees

M'vy

Hum timeout?

Ronan Forman

@fredley The issue is that greg tech makes bees produce tiny piles for things rather than what they should make.

fredley

16:24

@RonanForman Oh. Just make more bees.

/Run them longer

NightExcessive

@RonanForman I do believe that removing GregTech would require anyone who wants to play on the server to also remove it. This may be a bad idea on an already sparsely populated server.

Ronan Forman

@NightExcessive I don't think so, you can have mods that a server doesn't have.

fredley

# change beekeeping modes here. possible values EASY, NORMAL, HARD, HARDCORE, INSANE. mods may add additional modes.
beekeeping.mode=EASY

Ronan Forman

@fredley That changes mutation chance.

NightExcessive

Anyways, I'm off to bed. Good night all.

Coronus

16:26

@NightExcessive g'Night

Additive macerating.

Ronan Forman

@fredley Before I forget, I need ownership here.

fredley

@RonanForman Ownership?

Ronan Forman

@fredley Room ownership.

Stack Exchange

fredley has added Ronan Forman to the list of this room's owners.

Ronan Forman

Cheers.

Kevin van der Velden

17:00

Hey all

I'm fairly sure @fredley just left, but I'm gonna ask anyway :) Can I get whitelisted on the server?

My minecraft account is "tbyourdoom"

Coronus

@KevinvanderVelden I think they're doing some work on the server now. They were talking about it. cc @RonanForman

Kevin van der Velden

Aah, well no hurry ofcourse :)

(besides, dinners just ready over here =p)

Ronan Forman

@Coronus Not yet, fredley's just left from work.

@KevinvanderVelden Done.

Kevin van der Velden

Thanks :)

now I just need to know the server ip/hostname :)

(also, which pack it's running)

afk :)

Coronus

Well, it's at mine.stackgaming.com currently running Direwolf20.

Info and rules: meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/6846/…

Kevin van der Velden

17:21

back

I've read the rules, skipped the direwolf20 bit :)

fredley

17:32

@RonanForman Lets do this thang

Coronus

@fredley Welcome home.

fredley

I've backed up the entire ftb directory

*Am backing up

@KevinvanderVelden We'll be updating to Ultimate pack soon, so don't get too excited

Kevin van der Velden

Oke, i typically play Ultimate, but that was mostly because direwolf20 wouldn't install right the first time

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden Fair enough

Our server will be very DW20-centric until a few of use figure out the new mods anyway, and all the chunks loaded so far will be 'DW20' chunks

Kevin van der Velden

and I'm also the insane type of person that watches direwolf20's series so :)

M'vy

17:46

updating client.

fredley

@RonanForman I'll try bringing it up without copying over world data, then try with

Coronus

@KevinvanderVelden It didn't install for me right the first time, either.

Ronan Forman

@fredley Okay, just copied the backeruper over.

M'vy

And suddenly the chat comes to life :P

fredley

Coming up

M'vy

17:47

So what is the point of this migration? more stuff? less stuff?

Coronus

@M'vy More Machines!

Many machines on Ix. New... machines.

fredley

@M'vy More stuff, it's also the most 'official' ftb pack

Also it has Bibliocraft <3

I think I am most excited about bibliocraft

Coronus

@M'vy forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/…

M'vy

The Best of Minecraft Tech Mods

LOL

Ronan Forman

Awww shit!

Coronus

17:50

lol. More to my point, look at the comparison doc.

fredley

Yeah

M'vy

Hm

fredley

problems

Ronan Forman

I just noticed ultimate doesn't have misc peripherals.

fredley

Just needs conf updates

Oh :(

@RonanForman I have all the books I need anyway

Kevin van der Velden

17:51

Yes it does?

unless i'm reading it wrong

line 32

Coronus

Why is it red? Does that mean not 1.5?

M'vy

world ID are mismatching! Tha lit'le tricky !

Kevin van der Velden

I think so

fredley

@M'vy Yeah, this requires some conf twiddling because we removed GT

Kevin van der Velden

jeah no ridiculous-mode

fredley

17:53

@RonanForman You know what to do here?

Ronan Forman

@fredley We could add it in, but then everyone would need to.

I'm confused as to why it doesn't have it.

It's not very ultimate without it.

Kevin van der Velden

The border around it? I think thats some other user having selected it

fredley

That's a lesser issue to the fact that the server won't start right now

Ronan Forman

Oops, forgot to screen it.

fredley

@RonanForman eh?

Ronan Forman

17:56

@fredley I started it without screen.

fredley

@RonanForman Oh. Use the minecraftd script to start and nothing else ever

Unionhawk

@RonanForman Ultimate definitely does have MiscPeripherals...

fredley

It was running fine, but my client was throwing errors. Do I need to remove GT from client too?

Ronan Forman

@fredley What errors?

@Unionhawk Odd.

fredley

@RonanForman Did you try and connect when the server was up?

I'll bring it up again, sec

Unionhawk

17:58

I'm looking right at the ingame mod list. The one on the launcher must not be right

Ronan Forman

@Unionhawk Okay.

fredley

Strange launcher is strange

@RonanForman server is up

Ronan Forman

@Unionhawk Yeah, it's on the server.

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