Minecraft Talk

DH.

10:40

@Coronus LOL, yeah Mystcraft is crazy, good thing RFTools does almost the same thing without screwing the server

Kevin van der Velden

And without having one of the mechanisms of the mod "Generate new worlds and throw them away to get what you want"

DH.

That's why I said almost :P

Arperum

11:10

How does RFTools give you new worlds?

DH.

There's a Dimension Builder now

Instead of pages in Mystcraft, you use Dimlets, those can drop from mobs or are found in chests or are created in a machine

Arperum

ANd you immidiately have free choice of all parameters?

DH.

Well, not exactly "free"

It's not like you can make a full emerald blocks from the get go

Arperum

But you don't need to unlock stuff? Or how do you get specific parameters unlocked?

DH.

Some dimlets are gated, and the more OP the dimlet is

The more RF the dimension builder needs to keep the dimension up

Kevin van der Velden

11:14

IIRC you get scrambled dimlets, pop them in a thingamajing and out comes a random dimlet

Arperum

Ah, there are different dimlets to be found.

Kevin van der Velden

With the rarer ones being well... rarer

And there's things to build specific dimlets (like say blocks) by sacrificing a ton of said blocks

Arperum

Hmmm. Sounds interesting. I want to screw around with that.

DH.

Works for both 1.7.10 and 1.10.2

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden do you feel like setting up that server you were speaking about?

Kevin van der Velden

11:17

Sure, what pack?

Also it'd have to wait till this evening when I get home of course but

Arperum

Uhm... I have no idea :p I could go look around this evening. At work too.

Kevin van der Velden

The pack is the biggest issue

Arperum

Creating one ourselves or figuring out which one to pick?

Kevin van der Velden

Either one =p

Collecting a bunch of mods together isn't that big a deal

Let's start with the basics 1.7 or 1.10?

Also there's a python library (in combination with a mod) which allows you to build stuff in the world

I wanna do some random proc-gen things in that, maybe build a giant town

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden 1.10

Kevin van der Velden

11:25

Do we want OP or balanced?

DH.

There's not so much OP options available right now in 1.10, we have only DE and BR IIRC

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden What kind of input does it need? I have a couple giant statue models.

@KevinvanderVelden I prefer balanced. You will break it anyway.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum It's raw python code so whatever format you want =p

I've got an OBJ importer if you have 3d meshes

@DH. project e is ready for 1.10

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden I can look what kind of models it are. at least some of them are OBJ files.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum And conversion between them is possible so that's no issue

DH.

11:28

@KevinvanderVelden Oh true, forgot EE2 was a thing

Arperum

I'll look at them tonight.

Kevin van der Velden

What about this plan: We set world generation to be kinda flat and giant biomes, find a nice flat biome and build via python a gigantic ghost town

And then we make the ghost town all kinds of pretty and useful and automated

Arperum

ANd manually/by turtle build some completely oversized statues in said ghost town?

I'm talking ridiculously oversized.

Kevin van der Velden

Turtle is plausible, python is faster but essentially free resources

So make them with the python script in cobble and convert them via exchange things? =p

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Or just let the madman build :p

Kevin van der Velden

11:37

True =p

Arperum

I've build a 60 block high bunny in smoothstone at one point. All mined without any mods even.

although, two people mined the stuff.

DH.

11:48

Just a suggestion: HermitCraft has a 1.10 modpack without any OP mod

It even disables Mekanism Digital Miner, which is probably the hackiest way to quarry

Kevin van der Velden

Hmm, nice kitchen sink pack

 +------------------------+-----------------------+------------------------+
| Actually Additions     | AutoPackager          | AutoRegLib             |
| Baubles                | BdLib                 | Better Builder's Wands |
| Blood Magic            | Botania               | Chameleon              |
| Chest Transporter      | Chisels & Bits        | Chisel                 |
| Cooking for Blockheads | CraftTweaker          | Custom Main Menu       |
| Cyclic                 | Deep Resonance        | Drawers & Bits         |

Weird layout is weird

DH.

The only not-so-balanced mod is Psi from what I hear

Kevin van der Velden

And we're small and tech savvy enough to add more as needed, what do you say @Arperum?

Kevin van der Velden

12:31

@DH. oh also torcherino is OP as fuck

Arperum

I'll look in a bit. premise sounds good. Can't check mods now

DH.

@KevinvanderVelden But how expensive is it? Because, it seems to require o ton of torcherinos to start to become sort of gamebreaking

Kevin van der Velden

Is the one for doubling the speed of something as expensive as building a second of the most expensive block in the game?

Because that's what you have to balance against basically

DH.

IDK I was expecting that each one would require at least a diamond, so making a double compressed torcherino seems kinda OK

Kevin van der Velden

A diamond versus, say from 1.7, a 64x nether star generator

I know which one I'd get

DH.

12:45

But a torcherino affects mainly crops an mobs right?

Kevin van der Velden

Nope, everything that ticks

So you'd get double the output

Double the processing power, etc

DH.

Well, double the consuptiom too

It would get a bit OP on solar generators tho

Kevin van der Velden

@DH. Yeah, but that's not the issue with expensive blocks

ratchet freak

time is often the bigger bottleneck

DH.

13:11

There aren't many machines I would increase the tick speed

Maybe a solar generator array, IC2 Nuclear Reactors

Kevin van der Velden

Ore processing, don't set up dozens and dozens of processing machines to do your processing, have 1 and everything works out fine

DH.

Well, if you set up the 4x Mekanism machines, yeah it would be an excellent use, because I never went too deep to have too much ores to process

Kevin van der Velden

All fully upgraded I might add

DH.

But that's Skyblock, it's a never ending supply to process :P

Kevin van der Velden

This is true

But several full speed ender quarries also generate quite a bit of resources

DH.

13:24

Oh in 1.10 you wont have the same thing

The closest is a RFTools Builder with a quarry card

But before you can upgrade the quarry card you will need Dimension Shards, that come from ores that only appears in generated dimensions, which means kinda late game stuff

Kevin van der Velden

As if that ever stopped ~~anyone~~ me

DH.

Specially you, because you put a lot more effort into it

The last server of IE Skyblock says for itself :P

Arperum

18:40

Pack looks good enough for me after glancing over.

Kevin van der Velden

I've just finished installing the host OS

Now for configuring it

Well actually currently eating dinner but still

Arperum

18:57

I might see to join late this evening

Kevin van der Velden

Hmm kernel panic

Kevin van der Velden

19:25

burns down the USB drive and starts again

Arperum

19:45

Where do I even download the pack?

DH.

Curseforge/Curse Voice Client

(@Arperum Go to the FTB site, there's a link there)

OH

Hermitcraft was updated today with the TiCo update, now it has bows!

Kevin van der Velden

20:10

I am now making a VM for the server

DH.

Oh nvm, I made a mistake

Bows are coming soon, but TiCo was updated nonetheless

And there is BR, It's called "Extreme Reactors" because who made the port is another person it seems

Kinda dumb having this mod with Deep Resonance, since Deep Resonance is way harder

Arperum

Then we kick BR out?

Kevin van der Velden

Naah

DH.

If you don't like BR just don't use it, way easier to maintain :P

Kevin van der Velden

I am finally at the point where I set up the minecraft server

Kevin van der Velden

20:28

2 words 9 letters for the dutch speaking amongst us

Arperum

20:55

There are a lot of words. Loads of them can probably combined to 9 letters

Kevin van der Velden

And it should be up! CC @Arperum

@Arperum "duurt lang"

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Aha

Kevin van der Velden

home.16ms.nl should work

Arperum

will try later tonight. Might be around 1 AM

Kevin van der Velden

Nice, village straight from the base

s/the base/the spawn

Also a good place to camp the night

Well this should work, but I've not automated the server being up or anything yet

I'll do that in the morning o/

Arperum

21:12

You're off to bed?

Kevin van der Velden

Yeah

If you want I'll give you op to stresstest things

I've given you op, if you want to stresstest I've got the seed saved

Arperum

21:33

I may or may not do that.

Arperum

23:30

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