Minecraft Talk

StrixVaria

01:25

Minecraft is significantly more fun with other people playing

Fosco

03:39

updated the server.. everyone should be able to use /give now

Fosco

04:07

2

JavadocMD

@Fosco, server down or did I just lose connection?

Fosco

im still on

JavadocMD

Ok

JavadocMD

04:40

Yay, small house. Please don't blow it up. :)

Brant

05:20

minecrafting with a touchpad is hard.

Oh, I'm Adversity in minecraft, if anyone notices me on the server.

user30

07:02

Man, /give sucks now. Especially as I was getting used to actually doing stuff

Fosco

13:20

@ThomasMcDonald lol.. sorry! I need /give though, if I'm going to put any time in on the server.

badp

Yeah, I'd happily started gathering resources for stuff

Fosco

you don't like it either? nothing says you have to use it right?

badp

That's true, but if we're going to work together for stuff I'll just do as others do :)

If others /give I'll /give; if others mine I'll mine.

If others mine, /give is just lame. If others /give, mining for resources is useless.

Fosco

hehe.. well, when I'm online I'm using /give

I started building my house and it has an obsidian entrance.. no way I was going to mine that.

StrixVaria

14:03

@Fosco I was staring at this thing for like 5 minutes when I spawned in the server this morning and had no idea what it was until just now.

Fosco

14:14

@StrixVaria :\

I'll destroy it later... with TNT.

StrixVaria

No it's actually really cool. It was just me being stupid at first.

Fosco

hehe ok.. you're not the first who couldn't figure out what it was..

StrixVaria

I went exploring this morning since no one else was on and found about 15 caves that were just dark enough to make me go down and waste a torch realizing it just ended right away

Fosco

waste a torch?.. do /give torch 64

StrixVaria

Oh yeah I know...I guess waste my time would have been a better phrasing

Fosco

14:21

I wish I could be online more.. want to build a giant lava sphere, I think..

StrixVaria

Yesterday before you implemented /give I was concerned about taking the community coal for torches so I replaced it once I found more, and then today you implemented /give shrug

Fosco

very nice of you..

did you play everquest?

StrixVaria

Nope

Fosco

k

StrixVaria

@Fosco It's kind of aggravating for me that pretty much everyone else who plays in the server is from Europe, so they're all playing while I'm at work and asleep when I get home to play

Fosco

14:26

well it's only been up for a day or two.. give it a chance.. :) im from the USA, but my girlfriend hates when I pay attention to anything but her.

more people will join in..

StrixVaria

I'm looking forward to when it really gets going. The only other SMP I've done was a very small private thing with a few friends, so a public one (so long as the griefers keep out) will be really interesting

Fosco

yeah that will be cool, if we get a bunch of good people..

did you see what I built last night? obsidian entranceway with lava/glass walls?

StrixVaria

Yeah I did. pretty neat

I always wanted to build something using some obsidian but was always way too lazy to mine it

I also saw someone started a stairway down to an underwater base of some sort

Fosco

yeah i've never mined any... /give obsidian 64 w00!

Feeds

17:01

The Word of Notch
An update is coming tomorrow

First of all, most “mods” that add new features to the game are in a very gray area...
http://notch.tumblr.com/post/1525944516

Feeds

17:25

The Word of Notch
I was referring to client mods that alter or inject code. Texture mods and server mods are fine.

I was referring to client mods that alter or inject code. Texture mods and server mods are fine.
http://notch.tumblr.com/post/1526034493

mootinator

I read that as: I frown upon people making free addons to my game. On the other hand, I'll probably steal them and make money off their work :P

StrixVaria

Honestly he should just build in an API for adding custom materials

It's the kind of game that just needs to be extensible

Fosco

@mootinator can you post the text of his tumblr post here? I can't get to it from work.

StrixVaria

It's actually a pretty long post

An update is coming tomorrow

First of all, most “mods” that add new features to the game are in a very gray area legally, and I frown upon them. Most of them add really cool new features, though. It’s highly likely that something like the bridge mod will make it into the game.

Now, the update.
I was going to release this today, but it’s 6 pm already and my fiancée turns 30 today (I love you, ez!), so I’ll go eat a nice dinner instead.

Here’s what’s already done for the update:

General fixes:

It actually seems more significant than the super-hyped halloween update

Fosco

cool... lots of bug fixes.

that will of course break all the server mods, so we'll be back to vanilla.

thanks for posting it @StrixVaria

StrixVaria

17:34

You can still dupe items even if we do get stuck with vanilla

mootinator

Hooray for the stair fix.

Fosco

well /give exists on vanilla, i just need to give people op status for it.

badp

Hm, we just made stairs and didn't see a problem...

although it's probably about the quick stairs.

Fosco

@mootinator Hello, have you joined my server?

user30

*awesome stairs

StrixVaria

17:35

Removing stairs is sometimes very glitchy

user30

c'mon day, I can't see what I'm building

StrixVaria

As I said, everyone is playing while I'm at work and by the time I get home they'll all be asleep

mootinator

@Fosco Your server? No, it is a fantastic and wonderful place?

StrixVaria

At least I'll be able to see what you all came up with

Fosco

heh... well several of us from this room are on there...

user30

17:36

Nothing spectatular, I should imagine

Fosco

@mootinator it's in the starred post list on the right.. fdotm.com:1337

mootinator

My office runs a public multiplayer server, hehe.

user30

I'm continuing with my great glass fronted building obsession

mootinator

I will write that down, headed to lunch now though.

Raven Dreamer

A minecraft update incoming, you say?

Fosco

17:42

@RavenDreamer Yes... tomorrow. Plenty of SMP fixes. full text above (posted by StrixVaria)

Raven Dreamer

Aye. I'm reading it now.

"* zombie pigs eventually forgives" bwahaha

user30

Pfft, internet went down.

EndangeredMassa

Those Zombie Pigs held a grudge against me for many deaths. I had to keep killing them before more spawned, which would see me killing them. It made my hell base impossible to visit for a while.

user30

19:27

Fairly fruitful mining session

user30

140 coal, 15 gold, 64 iron, 156 redstone + 5 diamond

user30

20:07

@Fosco Server is down?

badp

Connection refused indeed.

Oh well, enough minecrack for today :D

user30

Bah, was in the middle of the gaming logo

badp

Did you have a chance to look at the MineExchange ChestOverflow EmergencyIncinerator? :D

user30

Yeah + used it

Brant

I wish minecraft ran on my PC here at work, but I'm also pretty damn glad it doesn't.

badp

20:11

how cute. (I'm looking at the title screen.)

Brant

I keep thinking "I could be working on my LakeBottom MegaBase HiddenFortress right now"

badp

Whoops

I had graphics on FANCY

I clicked the thing and...

java.lang.NullPointerException
	at d.a(SourceFile:247)
	at gi.b(SourceFile:92)
	at bd.a(SourceFile:33)
	at bn.a(SourceFile:69)
	at bn.e(SourceFile:115)
	at bn.d(SourceFile:103)
	at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.i(SourceFile:1007)
	at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:596)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

Macha

Did a short video of my base, just waiting for Youtube to process :)

Fosco

20:28

@ThomasMcDonald hmm let me check...

user30

Not sure if that's a good idea actually, getting a git-daemon set up on Ubuntu

StrixVaria

@badp Notch has the worst package/class names I've ever seen.

Fosco

try now...

Macha

@StrixVaria They're run through an obfuscator

user30

yep, working

badp

20:30

@StrixVaria It's for performance, shorter names are faster see??

StrixVaria

That way it makes it easy to debug stack traces

user30

but it's been reset

Fosco

reset?!

user30

the map

Macha

No, it's to impede people trying to reverse engineer it

Fosco

20:31

...

user30

has gone back about three hours

badp

no it hasn't.

user30

yes it has.

badp

The incinerator is still there.

user30

my bridge is still running across the middle of it

badp

20:31

In its final form.

user30

whut

Fosco

might be chunk by chunk saving issues

how about i make you guys mods and you can issue save commands?

user30

fffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

user30

/insert suitable rageguy image here

Fosco

the console simply said: Killed

nothing in the log

no idea why it went down.

user30

20:32

well, I can't be bothered to mine for another diamond pickaxe

user30

/gief 278 1

Fosco

/give diamondpickaxe

Macha

Hey, can I have one?

user30

I didn't think that OP did anything anymore?

badp

/give should be allowed for all, @macha

Fosco

20:33

should be able to use /save-all

macha hit T for chat then type /give diamondpickaxe

badp

but yeah, I've lost some inventory

Fosco

sorry.. not sure what happened there.

badp

no worries, it's alpha software

Fosco

i should eventually implement an auto backup system

badp

and there's always /give.

user30

20:34

I shall hurry up with my git backup.

user30

@fosco If you get chance could you dump the map data, zip it up and put it on dropbox or something?

Fosco

@ThomasMcDonald fdotm.com/gc3.tgz

user30

Cheers

user30

Wondering what's expendable and what really needs to be backed up

Macha

Lagging for anyone else?

badp

20:42

@Macha nope

Macha

Odd

user30

21:00

user30

Successful logo is successful

Brant

photo booth on your dock? pfft

user30

Never had need to remove it in fairness

Brant

Hehe, I'm only kidding

Making fun of the contents of someone's dock is the mac version of making fun of all the icons on a windows desktop

True mac snobs have to constantly ask themselves, "what dock icons define me as a person?"

Zoredache

Hrm, Chrome, and Terminal.

user30

21:11

textmate and terminal

Fosco

@Zoredache hehe, yes... chrome, terminal, photoshop.... there are other apps that run on mac?

Zoredache

Not much, bust it is a macbook I have at for testing things. Mostly I use my Desktop with Linux (xubuntu) on it.

JavadocMD

21:56

Good to see my lava lighthouse is still up as of an hour ago. :)

I just like lighthouses.

sjohnston

I have pondered lighthouses recently. So, fellow builders, what type of light do you feel works best in one? Torches or lava are the obvious choices, but we now have Australium/lightstone as well. Or flaming brimstone/bloodstone/whatever the heck it's called

user30

I think lightstone could be much better if it didn't look... odd.

badp

@ThomasMcDonald You know, maybe we should redo it with lightstone

Brant

Lightstone has the same luminance as fire and lava (15, torches are 14)

badp

at any rate, the heart logo needs some wool.

user30

22:32

@badp Why not?

badp

@ThomasMcDonald I've tried a few things

It currently looks like that, except it's just one cloth.

JavadocMD

Looks like it should be one pixel taller.

user30

I think that's actually right, we're missing a block of height in the widest bit

JavadocMD

Yep, what he said. @ThomasMcDonald

user30

Performing open-heart surgery now

badp

22:37

Need ideas for floor C of the community wiki building

Floor A has three large boxes, 16 furnaces, a workshop and an incinerator.

user30

move floor a to floor c

badp

Floor B has a pool, a shelf, a chicken that somehow got stuck in there.

JavadocMD

Waterslide!

badp

@ThomasMcDonald I was thinking of floor A (the one you enter in) for quick access to stuff.

user30

Grab a pic of the logo now

badp

22:38

Hence, boxes and furnaces.

Although, the large box full of stone could do going down.

user30

looks awesome.

user30

and fixed.

StrixVaria

@badp Is the community wiki building still made of dirt?

user30

Yeaaaah

user30

I love how the first night's dirt camp has been turned into a building of awesomeness

StrixVaria

22:51

I just heard of a fun way to make Minecraft more intense: Build an obsidian cage around your spawn and fill it with water.

If you die, you drown to death again before you can burrow through the obsidian with your hands.

JavadocMD

My spawn was once directly over a lava flow. :(

Managed to get out of it though after 30 or more deaths.

Brant

@StrixVaria Haha... permadeath!

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