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JTL

00:04

Huh, do proposals get closed at that phase often?

And was there something like a book recommendations proposal at some point?

Journeyman Geek

00:41

oooooh

amazon.com/Gigabit-Ethernet-Bracket-Controller-SD-MPE24031/dp/…

this is a thing

JTL

01:02

@JourneymanGeek Very cute.

Adam

01:13

@JourneymanGeek Yes I agree with JTL. It's a very cute little piece of hardware.

Zizouz212

01:38

Sup peepedoodles!

That joyous feeling when you regain 10-15 rep from down voted low quality answers that have been deleted.

@RubyJunk Enjoy a 100 point bounty :)

JTL

@Zizouz212 Yo.

Zizouz212

Hi :)

@JTL Can I... help you?

JTL

01:58

@Zizouz212 Oh, hehe, just a greeting.

Zizouz212

Umm.. ok 😊

Hardware Recommendations Meta

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Q: Delete is a last resort, not a first response

I'm new to this particular stackexchange, and admittedly my first answer was not quite in keeping with the general expectations. That's not my point. The specific answer is here: Low-power-draw HD resolution video card I'm happy to admit it does not specifically provide a low power graphics ca...

discussion

Andy

03:17

Hot network question: hardwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/1036/…

Mods, since none of us can see deleted posts yet, I request a screenshot for context to this question. — Andy 14 secs ago

That comment is related to the meta post, not the HNQ

Hardware Recommendations Meta

04:10

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Q: Should we allow software alternatives to hardware requests to be "valid" answers?

Do we allow alternatives to the requested hardware to remain as valid answers? I believe we allow a wide variety of hardware to be an "answer". Not all of the hardware can fulfill all requirements, thus we keep the alternatives around to allow the OP to determine which features they want/don't wa...

discussion answer-quality

Adam

@Andy Mind if I copy/paste my answer with some modifications to your meta question?

Andy

That's fine

Rudra Matroja

04:58

any one here?

Adam

Yes

Rudra Matroja

yay

so are you a bot admin? or a real admin?

Adam

I'm 100% flesh.

Rudra Matroja

awww man

i hoping for skynet

Adam

I am skynet.

Rudra Matroja

05:01

skynet in flesh? sounds like ultron

but wait if you're 100% flesh then no bones?

Adam

I prefer my skynet form over my flesh form.

Journeyman Geek

06:02

Not all mods are human, but most of us are made of meat ;p

RubyJunk

11:12

@Zizouz212 I got that a long time ago.... :P You are a little late

ArtOfCode

11:44

@JourneymanGeek I dunno, my head sounds pretty metallic.

RubyJunk

lol

ArtOfCode

@Criggie feel free to drop into chat to talk about your thoughts on your deleted post(s).

Journeyman Geek

@ArtOfCode: substandard hammers?

ArtOfCode

@JourneymanGeek See meta. Debating whether software answers are valid.

I deleted one because I assumed they weren't. Meta is discussing it.

Journeyman Geek

Oh

I was referring to the metalic head sounds ;p

heh

That one.

One of those case where I'd LOVE to see an answer that ticked off all the boxes

DOsen't feel like it fits any of the requirements at all tho

Rudra Matroja

12:31

@ArtOfCode thanks for the edits. :)

Journeyman Geek

heh

ArtOfCode

@RudraMatroja Which edits? I lose track of all the edits I make...

Journeyman Geek

Now I am really wondering if there's a an insanely cheap, pxi e 1x video card floating around that works on windows 10

Rudra Matroja

lol

Journeyman Geek

and yanno what I'd like to see? A card that has a AS2000 and all its lovely ipmi goodness.

if I'm remembering the model correctly

ArtOfCode

12:34

@JourneymanGeek feel free to ignore me telling you your answer's not good enough :)

Rudra Matroja

lol

ArtOfCode

12:53

Opinions please. Close? As what? Leave open?

Journeyman Geek

too broad?

heh I voted

ArtOfCode

Ah, but is it too broad, off-topic for TSR, off-topic for broad requirements, or off-topic for another reason.

Zizouz212

How much rep for a close vote?

ArtOfCode

500

Zizouz212

Alright, at this rate, I can close vote within a week :)

people delete low quality answers that I down vote :)

ArtOfCode

13:00

Nice one

Rudra Matroja

man am I far from that

ArtOfCode

@Zizouz212 Stop just downvoting them, downvote and flag them

then one of us gets to them faster

Zizouz212

Heck, I've got too many declined flags, I get warnings :/

Rudra Matroja

happens quite often

people downvote your answer caus they don't like it

even though it's perfectly right

it's just frustrating, getting crap for saying the bitter truth

ArtOfCode

@Zizouz212 Have you??

one-fifth of your flags are declined, that's nothing

and your few declined flags are old flags from when the scope was still variable

Journeyman Geek

13:08

@Zizouz212: hurry up ;)

ArtOfCode

@RudraMatroja It's often because people think it's wrong. Got an example?

@Ziz more to the point, you haven't had a warning yet

Ah, got the Research Assistant badge at last. 50 tag wikis.

Rudra Matroja

for example : hardwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/599/…

downvoted by the author caus he already bought the old gen. seems more like frustration on his part rather than actual reason tu downvote

Andy

13:28

Minor nitpick:

> downvoted by the author

You don't know that

Rudra Matroja

Well he seems to be the only one following the post.

but you can call me sherlock ;P

Journeyman Geek

heh

I might ask one of those soon ._.

Assuming I don't buy a mamba tournament

Rudra Matroja

is there actually any good gaming mice other than Razors or logitechs?

Zizouz212

13:43

Sorry, has to catch a bus. Finally at school panicking with a law test :/

Journeyman Geek

hm

I LOVED my old roccat

but it was unreliable

I went through 2 before I gave up

Andy

@RudraMatroja <3 my Razor

Rudra Matroja

Same, deathadder served me for 3years of constant gaming

Journeyman Geek

I have a taipan now

its too narrow for me tho

Rudra Matroja

still works great, but went for a naga caus i thought maybe i'll like MMORPGs more

RAT stuff is cool too

Journeyman Geek

13:47

I like simple, heavy, bulky.

Rudra Matroja

i've a spare rat 3, the only one that doesn't transform

Journeyman Geek

(and 2 buttons under the wheel, 2 thumb buttons)

Rudra Matroja

under the wheel for the dpi?

or side scrolling?

Zizouz212

@Art wat? I've had at least a few. "Your last flag was declined. Please review it before flagging this post" or something like that.

Rudra Matroja

that's not a warning i think

just an alert

or notification

a warni would be with a threat of penallty

Andy

13:56

Way to trigger the captcha: Write your answer outside of SE, click "Answer question", paste in answer, submit post - all within a second.

Rudra Matroja

nice

holy moly i think i just won some bounty

Journeyman Geek

Nice

2 buttons under the wheels are for page up and down for me

it really works really well with my workflow.

Rudra Matroja

yeah once you're used to it

it's a pain to change navigation habits

Journeyman Geek

> i.sstatic.net/qG4VV.png

Rudra Matroja

like going from samsung to sony

Journeyman Geek

14:03

I use the left buttons for DPI switching

Its too narrow tho

Rudra Matroja

is there a way to minimize images in this chat?

Journeyman Geek

(and yeah, if I ask a mouse question its going to have actual minimum dimensions

Rudra Matroja

this kinda sticks out while i'm at work lol

Journeyman Geek

better?

Not really

there may be a userscript for that

Rudra Matroja

it actually is

well i'm off to hom

Journeyman Geek

14:05

hmm

Andy

@RudraMatroja, regarding this answer, can you expand on it to meet some more of our guidelines?

Journeyman Geek

I wonder if I can bribe the local hackerspace with home made snacks for 3d printing

Rudra Matroja

I'll try asap

there changed it

added more contenenant

arf too tired to even spell correctly now

see ya

ArtOfCode

14:53

@Andy Way to annoy the captcha: use spacebar to tick the box rather than your mouse.

It relies on tracking your mouse patterns as you move to tick the box to identify human vs. bot, but if you use your spacebar, it has to give you a traditional captcha.

@Zizouz212 Alerts for your last flag. Admin details say you haven't been warned.

Is there a difference between 4g and 4g-lte or should I synonymize?

(and if so which way)

Cfinley

If you do merge them, I think [4g] should be the main tag

ArtOfCode

I would tend that way too

@JourneymanGeek We should just go back to a bartering economy. How many home-made cookies for a 3d print?

Journeyman Geek

@ArtOfCode: typically its beer

but my mom is an epic cook

ArtOfCode

@JourneymanGeek how many /[beer|cookies]/gi for a 3d print, then.

enderland

totally read that as "epic crook" in the preview from another room. came to discuss and laugh. was disappointed :P

Journeyman Geek

15:05

Good question

I have no idea ;p

ArtOfCode

Opinions on the tags, @Journey @enderland?

Journeyman Geek

hmm

is there no lte 4g?

enderland

honestly not sure. I still have a 3G phone since I'm awesome

Journeyman Geek

so do I!

ArtOfCode

And me, for that matter.

Journeyman Geek

15:09

And I hope if I get the job at the paypal clone, the parent amazon clone has a staff discount on my next phone.

enderland

I don't wnat to pay $100/month for a phone

so we pay $30/month for two smartphones instead!

Journeyman Geek

(and also, my phone plan is awesome and 3g only)

ArtOfCode

@enderland You can get £12/month for phone+contract with 4G here.

enderland

@ArtOfCode yeah the USA is only slowly getting out of the "we screw you over with cell phones" perspective

Journeyman Geek

looks like LTE is the only survivor

ArtOfCode

15:10

@JourneymanGeek I think it's usually done 4G LTE.

Journeyman Geek

yup

so...

the merger feels like it makes sense

@enderland: basically I want to move to a new telco soon

and if I recontract my data goes form 12gb (which is a LOT) to 1gb (which is less than I'm happy with)

ArtOfCode

Ah, I see. This explains it. Basically, 4G LTE is "cheating" 4G: i.e. the carrier's data speeds don't meet the 4G spec, but do provide a significant improvement over 3G with the intention to continue increasing.

So yeah, merging makes total sense here.

4g-lte -> 4g.

ArtOfCode

17:34

Plenty suggested edits lying around in that queue to review, editors.

Cfinley

I have done my part

Andy

@ArtOfCode, the profile lies. The Github URL doesn't exist

ArtOfCode

@Andy D:

@Andy fixed it

Andy

17:58

@ArtOfCode lies! i.imgur.com/CogZWkm.png

ArtOfCode

@Andy Calling shenanigans somewhere... the link is clicky and working from where I see it, go click it.

the one in the profile that is

Andy

I did. It gives me that 404

ArtOfCode

Try again, I have updated it pretty recently.

if not, it's github.com/ArtOfCode-/TagSuggestions

Andy

By recently, do you mean in the last couple minutes, because I swear it wasn't working

ArtOfCode

@Andy something around that timeframe, yeah

Andy

18:00

yay. I'm not crazy!

ArtOfCode

heh

Andy

18:49

@ArtOfCode, it's 50/50 right now with 1 out standing pending edit. It's also had one edit rolled back by an OP.

It might need some tweaking

ArtOfCode

Hmmm, true.

It works better when the tags are more frequently used, because then I can use the SE-baked "related tags"

Andy

19:33

@ArtOfCode, My post on MSO wasn't meant to be discouraging. Hopefully it didn't come off that way.

ArtOfCode

19:56

@Andy Not at all, I'm well aware the bot needs improving

Adam

21:17

@ArtOfCode While you're busy making an effort to improve the site with the bot, I'm busy debugging my Snake game remake in JS. Such fun.

ArtOfCode

@Adam Actually, I'm writing a blog post about writing a bot to improve the site :) It generated some controversy on SO, which makes good blog material.

Adam

@ArtOfCode Yeh, I saw that. You must be on to something for an MSO post to be made about it that quickly.

ArtOfCode

@Adam I made some edits with it on SO. Every edit has the comment Added relevant tags. [Edit made by a bot: ping @ArtOfCode if this is totally wrong.]... makes it fairly obvious.

Adam

You're putting yourself in the hot seat with that one. ;)

ArtOfCode

Aye, but it also gets me some feedback.

Andy

21:25

It was also very responsible. claps Plus, I think MSO has been pretty accepting of it. They have issues with implementation, but like the idea

ArtOfCode

@Andy Well it's certainly better than I expected. Though given that I expected them to slaughter it, I'm not sure how much of an endorsement that is.

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