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21:24
@AdrianoVaroliPiazza I'm here!
I made the cigarette, but haven't smoked it yet!
the problem I have is that Seahorse stores the passwords
And I definitely need the smoke!
Gimme 5 mins
21:29
I'm back @AdrianoVaroliPiazza
my problem, as stated in the question
is that Seahorse takes my credentials and stores them correctly
and then never yields them when it should
unless I prod it
Aha!
(or well, in the past, since I fixed it)
so all that "it's designed not to ask you the password" is... not relevant.
Well, that wasn't clear to me from reading everything I've read until now!!! :D
:D :D :D
it's also wrong, since, after it asks me the global password, it starts yielding the individual credentials for the pages I load.
21:32
NOW I understand why you're both p|$$ed off!
He's probably as p|$$ed off as you because you don't seem to get the point he's trying to make and you're p|$$ed off because he doesn't understand yours!!!
>:)
I did say "Gnome-keyring stores passwords for websites and other passwords, like ssh, gpg, etc. The keyring is unlocked when you login into the system and does not require to enter master password again. That is normal behavior." The whole point of my question is that the keyring is not unlocked, so I can't get to the stored passwords. Can you read that?"
yes!
But I did not understand that it's not giving them up
O_o
"After triggering the password dialog in this manner, and refreshing the relevant pages in Chromium, passwords and credentials are filled in as expected"
yeah, now that you've explained it, it's obvious!
Before, it wasn't... :P
That's why we Vorlons use telepathy to communicate!
You humans and verbal and written communication!
;-)
No wonder you've got so many wars...
I mean: all kidding aside...
I mean, the first sentence is
"I'm running into inconvenience because the global password manager (gnome keyring?) that should fill in auth dialogs in Chromium doesn't trigger. For example, I'm accessing some webpage that asks for basic HTTP auth, or simply a login form I've already accessed and for which Chromium has already stored my credentials."
I don't know how to make it clearer than that.
21:36
Like I said: It's clear now!
If you're reading about 100 questions/day
and you're dropping in at the end of the day in the "featured" section after reading your e-mailed questions...
well, I'm new here, but a reasonable baseline for me would be "don't tell the guy he hasn't got a problem".
... well...
@AdrianoVaroliPiazza Yeah! Absolutely true!
And that's what I'll be taking up with @Pilot6 when he wakes up again...
You both should have had a day to cool off and try to understand each other...
Like I said: he's a good guy and a good technician...
but the English is smtg he's learning about here...
@AdrianoVaroliPiazza How many languages do you speak? 3 at least...
yes
the obvious 3
OK, I speak 4 fluently, can get by on 10
Well, since he never replied, I guess he's as cool as it gets
21:40
and his mother tongue is one of the ones I can get by on...
he's a bit "too direct"
I used to be like that too when I was in my 20s...
I've got a bit more experience since then...
It's just a sad story: he really tried helping you, didn't understand, p|$$ed you off, you p|$$ed him off and 2 people are unhappy!
more like at least 4
whereas over a good bottle of Bardolino, you could have made great friends!
since I went to (general) chat afterwards, and got some more snark
yeah, I saw that.
I'll talk to him about the "rather direct communication"
um. I don't mean him.
21:43
and to tell him he should take a breather every now and then.
I get cranky too sometimes!
OTOH:
there is no solution to your problem...
Pilot6 will get 25 rep regardless...
except the one I used, you mean.
and maybe filing a bug on i18n somewhere
@AdrianoVaroliPiazza No, I'm not talking about the technical problem!
yes, I got that later
I'm talking about the human problem:
:-)
I'd take any way to make the question clearer...
21:46
I'll talk to him and get back to you on this, OK???
:D
I think I'm done as an active contributor to the site.
That's what David Foerster and me do on this site mostly:
(not that I was much of one in the first place).
trying to clarify questions...
@AdrianoVaroliPiazza Nah!
Why?
because you had a TCP/IP timeout with one user???
because of people like him and Rinzwind on the chat
because honestly I don't have the time.
21:48
There's 2 other people here in the room who'll remember you and help you!
@AdrianoVaroliPiazza Rinzwind is of the same kind of culture: very direct...
Rinzwind is even more direct then all of Germany together!
I came to general chat and got Rinzwind being passive aggressive, nobody else said jack
so... No, thanks. I'm good.
(And I've had to have Italians and Germans work on the same team;: it's a clash of cultures!) ;-)
@AdrianoVaroliPiazza @A.B. and @Tim are not...
I'm not.
Most of the mods aren't...
The Internet is just a communication medium! The a$$holes are still out there! :D
Dunno who got the flag I set on the answer as unhelpful, but the result was 2 upvotes.
(and the autistics, and the aliens...)
(sure, maybe it was a coincidence. Maybe the people I pointed the question to on chat upvoted the answer. Still).
21:51
I upvoted your question and your answer and @Pilot6's answer...
Everyone gets a bit, as I understand everyone...
That's the disadvantage of being a Vorlon! ;-)
Feel slightly better after this conversation?
Want me to reach out to you after I've talked to Pilot6???
not much... I did spend a few minutes in pleasant conversation, but I've solved nothing, I'll still see him get points for a useless answer, I'll still have the good memories of the previous chat, and I still don't know how to make my question clearer.
How much time left onb your question?
and no, frankly I don't really care about it. If he updates the answer with something useful (my answer's a hack), cool.
24 hours, I think.
31 minutes...
Tim
Tim
I'm amazing!
21:55
you are?
@Tim Yes you are!
@AdrianoVaroliPiazza For his age???
Yes, he is!
Me? If you divide my points by my age and then do the same with Tim's he's worth more then me!
(Though I don't know his age, I can guess within 2-3 years)
I'm an old fart!
I was there at the dawn of the first age of mankind.
Tim
Tim
Tim is 16
>:-)
I'm 48...
Do the math...
Tim
Tim
21:57
I can't my calculator won't open :P
also *math
ok, time to go home.
Anyway, there's this beautiful girl in the garden, holding a bottle of Kirsch...
have a wonderful weekend
avoid global password managers.
So I'll leave you to open all of your windows when driving home...
Tim
Tim
kirsch
Brandy distilled from the fermented juice of cherries.
21:58
@AdrianoVaroliPiazza :D :D :D
@Tim mostly cherries... ;-)
Tim
Tim
I have 625 reps per year of my age
@AdrianoVaroliPiazza turn the radio full blast and enjoy a nice drink abd forget about the rep!
You've got 15 of it back already and we'll make sure you get everything back!
Tim
Tim
Fabby has 369.2 per year of age
Good enough?
Tim
Tim
22:00
but he is going up faster than me :P
bye!
@Tim C U in AU GC...

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