07:45
If you were curious I just found out it all started with this:
in Mathematics, Aug 3 at 5:09, by Alec Teal
@EricStucky can you ask Alex for bandwidth stats for this month please, I'm really curious.
I have unlimited bandwidth fortunately, so I never noticed him DDOS'ing
But its 8gb on 31st July, and 20GB every day after that
Huy
Huy
Did you get DDoSed too?
Oh I am Alex clark haha, I thought everyone knew that
Huy
Huy
How would I know, you have a different name. :D
I = Committingtoachallenge = Alex clark
Huy
Huy
Aha.
Why so many accounts?
07:47
Yeah my challenge failed so I made a new account
Huy
Huy
Which challenge?
You know, the two year textbook one
Huy
Huy
I remember vaguely.
It was awhile ago now :P
Huy
Huy
And why did you create Incurrence instead of going back to Clark?
07:48
Oh well it went like this Committingtoachallenge(Name change only) -> Incurrence
Then I made a new account, so it's only the two accounts
Huy
Huy
I see.
No idea why Alec's ddos only broke my website today though
Huy
Huy
Do you have your own server or?
I just have a domain in America, it has unlimited bandwidth and storage
Huy
Huy
So, webspace?
I see.
07:50
Hopefully he'll turn it off now that I have emailed his university, but we'll see
Huy
Huy
If it's webspace you probably know that even though it says "unlimited" it doesn't really mean unlimited. That's probably why your website shut down yesterday.
I mean as soon as I blocked his IPs it was fine
Huy
Huy
@Incurrence: Yes, but there's no such thing as unlimited space or bandwith in the world. It just means "probably more than you will ever need", but if you overuse it you'll have to explain why so they can give you more, at least in my experience
Although I am still getting thousands of pings
@Huy That definitely makes sense
Huy
Huy
@Incurrence: If you want to make sure, you can also contact your host and tell them that you got DDoSed by some student from uni's internet, they'll contact the uni and then the uni will be more likely to act on it - in case they don't act on it now.
07:54
Well I will wait until after Monday his time, since the university IT only responds after 9am monday apparently
Huy
Huy
Sure.
Thanks for your caring xD
Huy
Huy
@Incurrence: I just checked my own stats just in case. 15 MB of traffic, I think this means Alec didn't try me yet. :D
Hahaha not yet
Oh you're doing your masters, nice
Huy
Huy
I'm just sick of kids on the internet thinking because they're on the internet they can say and do whatever they want without consequences.
07:56
I know, I am really surprised he went so far
Huy
Huy
BTW, what browser are you using? I haven't seen such borders for years.
Chrome on windows 8 xD
Huy
Huy
Ah, I see.
Why not Windows 10 yet? And also you have a problem with your network. :P
Oh haha, this is the uni computer, that problem always exists
"Limited" no subscript
Huy
Huy
^^
Interesting though, Win8 on uni PCs.
08:00
Is it? They are normally on 10, or normally on 7?
There are about 20,000 pc's on campus, so they take awhile to go through them all
Huy
Huy
Over here basically all are Linux or Win7, and there's some Macs.
Oh, my old uni was all macs, and this one is all windows 8
Huy
Huy
I personally didn't have a problem with the Win8 UI but I imagine my uni didn't update because of it.
Ahhh yeah, it was definitely strange at first, but most people liked it after awhile.
Here's where it all started btw with Alec I guess
in Mathematics, Jul 29 at 15:19, by Alex Clark
I'm done talking to you @AlecTeal you seem intentionally antagonistic often
Then I blocked him indefinitely
Huy
Huy
Yeah, most people just don't even try getting used to it, which is why the OS as a whole failed completely, even though it was pretty good. Now everyone hails Win10, even though it's not much of a change from Win8.
08:03
I shall get back to study now I guess. Alec distracted me for a good hour and a half maybe :P
Huy
Huy
+1, see you around.
 
4 hours later…
Huy
Huy
11:46
What argument is Alec now using to "show" he's innocent, @AlexClark?
user147690
It seems being offended that he wouldn't use Tor, I now have 4 new Ip's Dos'ing me which adds the extra d to DDOS
user147690
Make that 5
Huy
Huy
Nice.
user147690
8 in total now
Huy
Huy
11:59
@AlexClark: You might be interested in joining again. I've ignored them but it seems Tool is arguing with Arthurfischer.
(I don't want to read what's going on because it just makes me angry such idiots have the right to exist in the world)
user147690
Nah haha I gave up and blocked both of his accounts, I'll read the transcript later, it's funnier that way
user147690
He's so ridiculous
user147690
I mean he isn't breaking MSE rules, so nothing I can do here, I just can't wait for the uni to respond
user147690
I have a 200mb textdocument of his IP spamming me
Huy
Huy
I don't know, if you can somehow get a confirmation of WW uni that it was indeed him, you could report to MSE that you feel it is not a safe environment, you can't even put a link to your own homepage on here anymore because you risk being DoSed as soon as he feels annoyed by something you do
And I actually did check my websites traffic because I did assume he would try me soon enough too
that's really not something MSE should support, so it would - imo - be a reason for some consequences
user147690
12:03
Well if WW does say its him I can probably do that, but the Tor I can't really prove
Huy
Huy
@AlexClark: Let's see what you get with WW
user147690
Although the Tor is nothing, since it goes at his capacity, it just freezes him up and my website has gb's of bandwidth potential
Huy
Huy
^^
Yeah I have 8 computers
Alec has 64
So don't mess with us :P
@AlexClark please answer the following question seriously:
How many IPs were actually involved, was 2? Can you confirm the useragent for us? Is it a certain version of wget
@Incurrence
12:28
@ToolPurger what's wrong with this room?
So basically I've come here with a theory and a request.
My theory: that the bot we use to scan recent pages isn't obeying (for whatever reason) the 5 second rate limit. We use the bot to pick up on new pages @AlexClark creates, so we can make sure maths.kisogo.com also has pages on the subject
I started using it yesterday, but a good 6 hours before the website went down.
So if it is us the user agent should be a program called "wget"
The request is to stop making a big deal of it. Alec is the kind of person who would do something simply to demonstrate that he can.
@skillpatrol I want you to help me negotiate with @AlexClark because he seems to hate me.
negotiate what?
Well if it was the bots we need to fix them - they're rate limited to one request every 5 seconds @skillpatrol
That sounds like a lot BTW but that's not an attack. I've got one website (a forum) that gets 5 requests from Google per second
So @skillpatrol can you ping Alex and basically tell him what I've just said. I want everyone to be friends and all that's happened is people are getting entrenched in their camps
@skillpatrol please?
12:37
Alex has clearly stated that he has put Alec on ignore and doesn't anything more to do with him.
This is me now @skillpatrol
I don't care if Alec and Alex wont ever be friends, I just want this nonsense to stop
So can you ask Alex to just confirm a user agent for me, I wont even ask him what it is, I'll copy/paste mine and he'll say "yes" or "no"
Huy
Huy
@skillpatrol: I see there's Tool in here, probably trying to tell Alex or me something. I just want to inform you that I don't want to have anything to do with him or Alec anymore either, so if you would forward anything from either of them, I'd have to ignore you too, and I don't really think either of us wants that. :)
@ToolPurger People are convinced that ToolPurger is the sock puppet of Alec
How can I prove I'm not?
By letting things calm down.
12:41
Please at least tell @AlexClark the request part. The more he winds this up... Alec isn't the kind of person to be accused of doing something badly then just drop it.
It'd be best if he dropped it
your 3 minutes are up :P
@skillpatrol came here because Alec told me of a user called Timbuc
Hence the name ToolPurger, purger of tools, Timbuc was being a "tool"
I'll see what I can do...no promises
@skillpatrol you'll see math.stackexchange.com/users/118527/timbuc timbuc is suspended because he was being a tool.
Now if Alec has multiple accounts, maybe he went to use one then found out it was closed? But either way that's why I'm here
But please try to convey that "challenging Alec and saying it was a DOS" will just make him show you how it's done. Knowing him it's very unlikely he'll simply just stop. I'm totally serious. I don't want to see anyone get wound up over this
Thanks @skillpatrol
I'll leave now, poke me if you need anything, and please don't tell Alec about this chat
13:31
Arthur Fischer has frozen this room.
Stack Exchange chat is not the place for witch hunts or kangaroo courts. All chat rooms must abide by the be nice policy.
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