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1:37 AM
@AndrasDeak Not without more details.
But normally I use apt-get dist-upgrade.
       --with-new-pkgs
           Allow installing new packages when used in conjunction with upgrade. This is useful if the update of an installed package requires new
           dependencies to be installed. Instead of holding the package back upgrade will upgrade the package and install the new dependencies.
           Note that upgrade with this option will never remove packages, only allow adding new ones. Configuration Item:
           APT::Get::Upgrade-Allow-New.
Note the "will never remove packages" bit.
@AndrasDeak Only if you've held something. That's not usually a good idea.
 
 
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9:27 AM
@Fabby hah that reminds me of the SCSI extensions in some HP ScanJets, which can be used to play music...
 
 
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11:04 AM
@FaheemMitha sure, what can I add? Here's the output from apt-get. I've tried figuring out if apt* can tell me why a given package was kept back, but all my searches gave me "what does kept back mean" and "how to fix it" posts...
And yeah, I know that flag won't remove packages, but in the past I never had packages held back due to removals, I guess. And no, I haven't held anything manually.
I haven't done anything fishy with my packages as far as I know. It's debian testing with several things I've apt-get installed myself, and I've also added contrib and non-free to my sources.list. But I don't go out of my way to break things :)
 
 
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1:21 PM
@AndrasDeak Have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade?
If not, try it. If that still doesn't work, post a question on the site.
You said earlier that you're on Debian bullseye. I think that is the current testing.
It doesn't seem that dist-upgrade would work if the --with-new-pkgs flag doesn't, but no harm trying.
 
 
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3:46 PM
github is partially down (n)
 
4:14 PM
@FaheemMitha sorry, I forgot to add :( I've been wary using dist-upgrade, but only because I've only used it to upgrade major distro versions and I don't understand what it exactly does. From what I've read these past few days it seems just a bit more drastic than what I've tried so far, so I'll try and let you know. Thanks.
 
@AndrasDeak dist-upgrade is harmless. I use it all the time. All it does it allow removal and addition of packages.
But like I said, it doesn't sound like it will solve your issue. But you can try it.
 
@FaheemMitha that's how it's seemed to me by now :) thank you
 
@AndrasDeak If that doesn't help, post a question. Include the output of apt-cache policy.
And distribution/release information, of course.
 
will do, thanks
dist-upgrade does, in fact, offer to upgrade my packages. It wants to remove uno-libs3 which is why --with-new-pkgs didn't cut it.
> LibreOffice UNO runtime environment -- public shared libraries
OK, so apt wants to remove uno-libs3 and replace it with its components listed here
sounds reasonable to me, and at worst it will only break libreoffice :P
 
4:31 PM
@AndrasDeak Ok.
 
thanks for your help, Faheem
 
5:11 PM
@AndrasDeak Sure, no problem.
 
 
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11:46 PM
@StephenKitt Oh wow! Never heard about that!!!
We learn every day!!!
(Especially from you!!!)
:D ;-) :D
 

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