Oh, wow. I missed the political and economic discussion with @Jesse_b. That's probably good...I got work done instead. :D

@Wildcard You mean the healthcare thing?

I am reading about consensus, and quorum.

These two seem completely different

Then I saw there is "quorum consensus". What is that ?!

After n-th try, I finally come to understand what Byzantine problem is about

Since it has liar, isn't it that its solution be quorum? Why is the problem mentioned in chapters for consensus?

If some industry claims its goal is about low-latency, like ad tech, I guess consensus isn't their priority? The Byzantine problem isn't their concern?

Not sure whether Kubernet uses consensus or concerns about Byzantine problem

I am not even know what Kubernet is exactly about

Thanks in advance for enlightenment on anything above.

If you were to clone gitlab.com/derobert/aban ... you should absolutely not run PATH="$(pwd)/util:$PATH" perl -Ilib -MApp::ABAN -E 'exit App::ABAN->run' as that'd be a bad idea, and I'd rather not "pulling a dero" be the next level of pulling a @terdon (Especially if you ran it as root)

The disk wiper I've been working on now minimally functions. Next up is to get live-build to make a boot disk out of it.

But it's 2AM, so that's a task for another day.

@derobert What's the state of the art when it comes to disk wipers? Presumably you wrote your own because the existing ones were not satisfactory?

@FaheemMitha The only open source one I could find that did anything similar was DBAN (which of course inspired the name I gave mine), but that hasn't been maintained in a while. So I'm hoping to make something far easier to maintain, as it'll be built on a pretty stock Debian live cd

I'm also filing a lot of gitlab issues describing what still needs to be done, well, or what I hope to implement

@derobert I see. Why didn't you fork DBAN?

I'm not familiar with these tools, so please excuse if that is a foolish question.

@Fabby Yeah, sorry. I should have realized you weren't saying Linux came before Unix. I know you know better than that!

@derobert You could use some of your newfound freedom to update unix.stackexchange.com/a/182503/4671

Perhaps on the 5 year anniversary of your answer?

@FaheemMitha Take a look at the DBAN source download.... :-/

It's based on ancient stuff, and buildroot (which is I think actually aimed at embedded, and old as well)

Probably was originally designed to fit on a floppy.

Building on Debian live means something much more maintainable.

@FaheemMitha Hah, I should, or write a new answer... I have LVM-RAID systems in use now.

@derobert Ok.

@derobert Why would a new answer be better?

GOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING VIET STACK EXCHANGE

I don't understand toilet paper. I wipe and I wipe and I wipe...still poop!

@Jesse_b And then flush 15 times?

@Kusalananda I like your hat

Yeah, I got a bunch of "secret" hats and I don't know why. This one is just called "Propel Thyself".

Is your migraine better?

@terdon Yes, that disappeared later in the evening. It was a real relief.

Glad to hear it. Those things are no fun.

I see you got the 180-degrees hat too. I don't know what triggered that one either.

Who, me?

@terdon Huh. No Jesse

I honestly didn't see it was you. Sorry!

Ah, OK. I'm not doing hats this year so that seemed strange :)

@Kusalananda I believe that one has something to do with editing a downvoted question

IIRC I got it right after I edited that question about users being created and deleted in a short period of time

@Jesse_b And causing it to get upvoted, possibly.

I also nominated it to be reopened so it could be something to do with that as well

One of life's little mysteries.

... just like that toilet paper thing.

I'm re-jigging my VPN network at home. Now that I know what I'm doing I can do it properly.

I read that as "Jiggling" at first and pictured you shaking the VPN to make it work

somehow the permissions on one of my git repositories got all screwed up

@Jesse_b Did jigglig the first time. Now I'm jigging. Then I'll dance a jig, and possibly giggle a bit.

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(>'.')^

That's about it, yes.

I fixed my issue with a really big hammer

find . -exec sudo chown jessebutryn:staff {} \;
find . -type f -exec chmod 664 {} \;
find . -type d -exec chmod 774 {} \;

Surely the chown could have been done as sudo chown -R user:group .?

But I suppose it works. You just have an awful lot of sudo log messages somewhere...

it actually didn't work

there were three files that I still had to chown individually for some reason

I'm close to doubling my number of gold badges :)

20 more edits, 64 more reviews, and 79 more bash upvotes

@Jesse_b are you sure that it is toilet paper's problem?

just saying ...

I'm sure you don't want anymore details

I have already finished my 1.5 meals today

I didn't want the detail I got, thank you very much.

I hope to have some advancement in reading distributed systems today

wat up terdon

o/

Ok VPN work done. New server set up. Backup's working. Everything is good.

thug life

@Jesse_b beep

Aww

ugh I hate mac shortcuts

I just accidentally hit my keyboard (I'm pretty sure I only touched the ctrl key) and it automatically bookmarked the page I was on. This happens like 4-5 times a day

and I'm also constantly opening the stupid search function thing by seemingly only pressing the space bar

@Kusalananda: Have you seen this: github.com/rgcr/m-cli

@Jesse_b No, not until now. It could be useful for someone I'm sure, but I honestly stay with the base system and only install the odd tool that I tend use on other (non-macOS) systems too.

@Jesse_b Yeah, that one is fun.

@Kusalananda I just installed it, seems like it could be useful

I learnt a new macOS trick the other day that I hadn't seen before. The "long-press". Press e.g. "a" for long in a text field and you'll get a helpful popup.

Yeah I use that to spell Stéphane

I've always been using the long-winded Alt-e+e

(dead keys)

$ m volume help
    usage:  m volume [ level(0-100) | change(-n|+n) | up | down | mute | unmute | ismute ]

    Examples:
      m volume 70     # set the volume to 70 %
      m volume +5     # increase the volume by 5 (up to 100)
      m volume -10    # decrease the volume by 5 (down to 0)
      m volume up     # increase the volume by 6.25
      m volume down   # decrease the volume by 6.25
      m volume        # get the volume level
      m volume mute   # set mute
      m volume unmute # unset mute

Now that is cool

of course it's just a bash script you could implement yourself: github.com/rgcr/m-cli/blob/master/plugins/volume

And now my mac has vd!

alias v='m volume'
alias vu='v +1'
alias vd='v -1'

@Kusalananda: What makes a question eligible for a deletion vote

@Jesse_b Do you thikn I should have deleted it instead of putting it on hold?

@Kusalananda Your call, I was going to vote to delete it though but I figured it would need to be closed first, it still doesn't give me the option however

@Jesse_b Oh? That's a bit odd. Are you usually allowed to vote for deletion on other questions?

Maybe I can only vote to delete answers?

No, I can vote to delete this one

@Jesse_b The wording for this "Voting to delete questions with a score of -3 or lower immediately after they are closed".

so it's possibly related to the votes on the question.

ah yeah that makes sense

I closed it rather than deleted it because I tend to want to give the user a chance to turn it into a proper question, would they want to do so.

Though, in this case it may be unlikely.

@Kusalananda Yeah I don't think I have ever voted to delete a question but in this case it seems like they definitely meant to post that as an answer

It's the first time I've seen this happen actually.

Of course the answer is bordering on another question so who knows :P

@Kusalananda: What is a typical Swedish breakfast?

@Jesse_b Oh... Let me Google that.

Yeah, this seems about right: cookingtheglobe.com/swedish-breakfast

Muesli in yoghurt, sandwiches, coffee/tea.

I hate swiss cheese

@Jesse_b I like coffee.

Yogurt in cereal sounds pretty good, I've never thought to do that

It may be good, depending on the cereal.

Right, I'm up too late again.

Need bed.

Almost time for coffee and Muesli

:p

Goodnight man

@Jesse_b Be well.