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3:02 AM
@JeffSchaller not sure.. why Python is so popular now? I think GoLang should be the right technology? For AWS...
Python is more appropriate for data processing tool but not for application development
@Kusalananda How copying id_rsa.pub to GiHub for ssh access different from downloading somekey.pem from AWS, to connect to EC2 using ssh? somekey.pem is a private key file that AWS provides on creating a new EC2 instance...
 
 
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4:56 AM
@JeffSchaller your area of expertise...
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Q: How to add jenkins user to group id 130 within docker container?

overexchangeOn docker host(laptop) the group id of docker group is 130 todobackend$ ls -l /var/run/docker.sock srw-rw---- 1 root docker 0 Nov 24 21:04 /var/run/docker.sock todobackend$ cat /etc/group | grep docker docker:x:130:user todobackend$ Above docker host is launching a docker container(which ha...

 
 
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9:08 AM
@overexchange With Github you're using SSH with a private key authentication. With AWS, you appear to be using SSH with certificate authentication (about which I know very little unfortunately).
 
9:35 AM
@Kusalananda it is actually a private key file in case is aws
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A: Why AWS distributes private key to address authentication problem?

ThoriumBR 1) Why AWS distributes private key instead of public key? for secure communication... Without the private key, you cannot prove you are the owner of the public key. Without proving you are the owner, you cannot use SSH Public Key Authentication. So Amazon generates a key itself, and send yo...

 
@overexchange If you have a question regarding this that you'd like an answer to, I suggest that you ask on the main site.
 
I got the answer
@Kusalananda I need your inputs on usage of group id across Linux namespace... Above question answer is accepted
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Q: How to add jenkins user to group id 130 within docker container?

overexchangeOn docker host(laptop) the group id of docker group is 130 todobackend$ ls -l /var/run/docker.sock srw-rw---- 1 root docker 0 Nov 24 21:04 /var/run/docker.sock todobackend$ cat /etc/group | grep docker docker:x:130:user todobackend$ todobackend$ uname -a Linux mohet01-ubuntu 4.15.0-70-generic #...

 
9:56 AM
@overexchange That's a StackOverflow question, this chat is mainly about the Unix&Linux site. Furthermore, as you already know, I don't use Docker nor Jenkins, and I'm also not a Linux user, so I know that Linux has something called "namespaces", but I wouldn't know what they are.
 
 
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1:25 PM
@overexchange sorry for any confusion; I was curious about docker for a bit, but I'm far from an expert (or experienced) in it.
 
 
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2:33 PM
Beep
 
oh my :)
 
so funky, always loved old ASDF movie
 
My kids introduced me to one over the weekend; only if you're into history
 
Well I guess if you're into coconut you must love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0AOGeqOnFY
 
2:45 PM
hehe
 
@JeffSchaller That's actually quite good.
 
@Kusalananda kindest thing anyone's ever said in reply to my youtube links
 
Behind any Jeff Schaller there's a human being crying to be recognize for what he is... a human being with feellings :P
 
@Kiwy I know you meant feelings, but since I own a chainsaw, there's also a few fellings :)
 
@JeffSchaller youtube.com/watch?v=Rte07sl3Vf4 (random fun google translated song)
 
2:53 PM
@JeffSchaller got me...
 
@Kiwy behind every Kiwy is either a fruit or a nut :)
 
A nutty fruit I guess
 
@Kusalananda fun! I think ... is it Jimmy Fallon? on his late-night show does something like that with musically-inclined guests -- has them sing the twice-translated lyrics
 
I think this women does "real music", but this channel is dedicated to google translate stuff.
 
2:59 PM
or you could listen to music only youtube.com/watch?v=jKW4s02ib7s
 
@Kiwy "a breath of french air" ha
 
first rule to keep your sanity intact on Internet:
Never read YouTube comments... it might be fun but most of the time it will kill you slowly with pain and despair
 
it's a good rule; I just happened to see that one when I scrolled down to try & figure out what I was listening to :)
 
@JeffSchaller well it's a french guy doing quiet hypnotic retro synthe wave electronic music
 
@Kiwy it is, indeed! reminds me of my "psybient" pandora station
lol - Pandora fail: "Based on what you've told us so far, we're playing this track because it features specific musical qualities."
 
3:07 PM
@JeffSchaller I'm interested tell me more
@JeffSchaller do not really understand that
 
@Kiwy I don't understand that part, either. I'm guessing because I just (re)started the station and it's the first song. Or it has no idea what I'm listening to, either! I learned about the ?genre? from ESR and was curious to try it as background music
 
hooo pandora station as in radio station
never heard about that one (most likeley because I live in France)
 
Pandora got smarter on the second song: "Based on what you've told us so far, we're playing this track because it features unsyncopated ensemble rhythms, tripped-out production, subtle use of noise effects, straight drum beats and heavily effected synths."
 
4:00 PM
Could someone please beat me with a clue stick? I don't know what the user is wanting to tell me in the comments here: unix.stackexchange.com/a/553741/116858
It's obvious that I'm missing something that they thing is important.
 
I get the impression they have different expectations regarding how rm should be used in a script...
 
they like the warning about non-writable files during an 'rm' and took your "useful" text as a recommendation. I think you're on the right track with "rm removes files"
perhaps they'd be happy with an edit (or comment?) that said something along the lines of "rm -f will not prompt when deleting non-writable files" or somesuch
 
or even “-f will disable all prompts”
 
the answer is very much focused on the potentially missing arguments, and this is an option
See also the rationale section in the POSIX page about "if ((NOT f_option) ..."
or just description item #3
 
@JeffSchaller But that text is already right there...
 
4:18 PM
@Kusalananda indeed -- "Do not prompt for confirmation."
 
I might have a mental block regarding that comment thread. rm -f does not remove errors, surely? If one wants to call rm with a list that may be empty, rm -f will not complain. If one want to delete stuff from a write-protected directory rm -f will complain. So it does not "remove errors".
Maybe we just have different ideas what type of "error" we're talking about?
They seem to be concerned about bugs, rather than errors emanating from rm.
 
@Kusalananda perhaps the missing piece is rm -f on a write-protected file
(versus rm protected-file)
 
I'm just going to leave it.
 
 
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7:25 PM
Wow, I've never gotten such response on a Meta answer. Seventh person to answer, but I got one upvote per minute for 17 minutes.
 
@Wildcard I'm guessing you mean Meta.SE and not Meta.U&L?
 
@JeffSchaller yep.
 
(we're lucky to get 7 answers in a month at Meta.U&L :) )
 
@JeffSchaller that's probably a good thing. At least it's not a dumpster fire.
 
thank $DIETY
wow, lucky guess. 4 in Nov, 9 in Oct, 3 in Sep, 16 in Aug --> average of 8 A's per month here
 
7:51 PM
Can somebody help me know the procedure to set uid and gid of specific file?
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Q: Docker container - How to add 'jenkins' user to group id 130?

overexchangeThis is docker in docker scenario. Below is the corresponding code in Dockerfile that has docker client installed: FROM jenkins/jenkins:2.190.2 ENV DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive # Official Jenkins image does not include sudo, change to root user USER root # Used to set the docker group ID #...

I do not prefer setting this in dockerfile but I prefer setting in docker-compose
 
 
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10:35 PM
@overexchange have you tried digging through the Docker documentation?
@overexchange docs.docker.com/engine/security/rootless looks possibly relevant but I'm not sure of your setup.
 
 
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11:49 PM
@Wildcard that is the security aspect which is different from adding group id
 

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