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00:49
@Kusalananda pidof xterm | wc -w69 :-)
I should close a few xterms to have a nice round number.
This machine is still running e16... I really need to upgrade it... The rest of my machines are running KDE.
But still with xterms
 
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07:45
@derobert Nearly 70 xterms? I've only got two eyes, and they can only keep track of one terminal, so I'll stick with one terminal ;-) Well, divided into three tmux panes, but that's all that's needed.
07:58
Have I been unclear in what I'm asking in this question? Both answers so far don't address what I intended at all.
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Q: What does POSIX require for quoted here documents inside command substitution?

Michael HomerIn this question someone reports a problem using a here document with a quoted delimiter word inside $(...) command substitution, where a backslash \ at the end of a line inside the document triggers newline-joining line continuation, while the same here document outside command substitution work...

In particular there are three bullet points at the end with specific questions that I meant to make concrete what the title asks.
08:26
@MichaelHomer Not unclear. Another thing I've just noticed with bash's $(...) is that you can't take cat out of it. Doing x=$(<<'EOT' ... ) in ksh93 works. This may not be much interest, just a quirk in bash.
Yeah, it only supports ordinary redirections inside $().
Even with \\<newline> bash removes the \<newline>...
@MichaelHomer I don't think that's related to command substitutions. <<EOT | cat works in ksh93 and zsh, but not in bash or dash.
 
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Q: Time to take a stand

Joel SpolskyI am extremely upset by President Trump’s executive order on immigration. It is immoral, unconstitutional, and fundamentally un-American. The community on Stack Overflow is made up of users from all over the world. At least 100,000 posts on Stack Overflow were written by users from the seven cou...

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12:25
@Kusalananda Oh my god. I missed this. Yikes.
I'm reading about this now. I'm speechless.
To Americans and other people who might know more about the history of this kind of thing - what are the historical precedents for this kind of action?
To be clear, I'm reading nytimes.com/2017/01/28/us/politics/…
13:06
Wow, this is generating a lot of press. How did I miss this?
Unfortunately, it also kinda hides the news that Bannon is now on the security council, and that some other people that used to be there now only will be called upon if their expertise is needed.
He's doing a lot of dictating now, this prez guy.
 
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15:04
I was earlier on an Airbnb forum I frequent, and someone posted that Airbnb had made an announcement that people stranded outside the United States would be given free accommodation by Airbnb. To which I posted a puzzled response, asking why people would be stranded outside the US. I guess I should pay more attention to the news.
 
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16:59
Wouldn't be surprised if there was a new vice president announced within too long... There's someone who seems to run the WH that's getting in everywhere.
17:11
@Kusalananda I'm not sure who you mean.
This Bannon guy.
@Kusalananda Oh, him. Yes, he sounds scary.
We live in interesting times.
In other news, I see Nineteen-Eighty-Four is currently just hit the number one spot on Amazon.
 
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18:41
howdy so some guy left comments and then deleted them just kinda weird not spam whether but still weird
I've done that when I realize my comment was wrong. It's also fairly common to suggest alternative approaches or corrections to a solution, and then delete the comment if the original author changes tho answer based on the comment.
Stops the comment thread getting to long.
... and filled with comments that are no longer applicable.
@Kusalananda he deleted all 3 comments making my trail slightly weird where I was talking to him
@William Well, I don't know what the tread was, but maybe he was either realizing he was wrong or just changed his mind about what he was saying, or something. Nothing inherently wrong with that.
well heck I didn't report him so it cant' be to bad. I accepted the question because of him and I am now trying to decide if I should open a new question or not unix.stackexchange.com/questions/340829/…
@Kusalananda what is your opinion
I originally asked how do you boot a fat operating system with linux and the user repsonded that it is indeed possible but not how
i have edited the question since then
18:57
I don't think I have an opinion, since I totally unfamiliar with the topic and do not know what the deleted comments said. However, the question changed quite drastically with you addition of that last paragraph.
Thinking...
One may think, for example, that you're actually just interested in mounting an ExFat partition for use {to do whatever}, but that you don't need to run a whole Linux system on ExFat.
Personally, I'm a bit mystified why one would want to use a Windows FS on Linux for performance reasons, as there are a number of high performance filesystems available for Linux natively.
The question thus changed in character, from one about putting Linux on a Windows FS to one about FS performance.
19:13
@Kusalananda thank you will think about it.
Does anyone know how to reinstall/refresh or whatever the EFI bootloader? The equivalent of update-grub, I mean. I rebooted my machine after an update and was greeted with this:
And the keyboard isn't responsive, so I can't actually use the recovery shell.
19:35
Never mind, I found it. I fixed it by booting into a live system, chrooting into my installed system and running mkinitcpio -p linux.
wut
I am confused, why EFI bootloader don't you have grub?
or is this more complicated?
20:11
One of those grey-area-questions (there was a discussion yesterday initiated by Gilles) that I'm not sure is topical or off-topic here: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/341035/…

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