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11:03 AM
Hi
I have a question
What is the recommended place to ask philosophical question about Unix/Linux?
If you review the questions that I have asked, they are philosophical questions.
I ask those at unix.stackexchange.com because I believe people who have jobs as system administrator/system engineer/software engineer of Unix/Linux are here.
Those jobs certainly requires the ins and outs of Unix/Linux.
Somehow, I cannot find better place to ask my questions because my questions are Unix/Linux oriented.
By Unix/Linux oriented, I mean my perspective is on *nix-like operating system.
 
11:27 AM
@RonVince Depends on what you mean by "philosophical"
If it's an open ended question that leads to discussions or opinions, it will be off topic on all sites of the stack exchange network.
 
slm
I mean this in a nice way not negative at all: these philosophical questions I find a waste of time and don't actually solve anything and so are unproductive. The best ways in my 20+ years of using Linux/Unixes has been in finding solutions to actual problems. I would suggest that you frame your questions so that they're specific to a particular technology and how to do X, Y, or Z. After asking many of these nuts & bolts Q's you'll have your higher level A'ers to your "philosophical" Q's.
@RonVince ^^^^^
 
11:50 AM
I just had this in my review queue (close ) for the second time
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Q: Remove last comma from a bash for loop generated string

KetanI am dealing with a situation where I need to create a comma separated list from an array into a heredoc and remove the last comma. I am using bash for piped into sed which is erasing all commas instead of the last one. A simplified example is as follows: x=$(for i in a b c; do echo "${i}",; do...

with the indication it is cross posted, but I cannot find where it was cross posted.
Not even with the new 10K powers of seeing who close voted on what
(in the review history).
Is there a way to see who initiated this close, so I can ask him/her where the post is cross-posted?
 
12:17 PM
@terdon The 'philosophical' for me means the science behind it. The answers that I have received so far are factual and really useful that it deepen my understanding about *nix.
@slm Personally, knowing the science behind *nix is important because it helps in analyzing a problem and thus solve the problem.
 
slm
@Anthon I only see me as the closer on it right now. There was a cross post but it appears to be gone now. You can see the remnants of it in this google search google.com/…
It's dated oct 2013 in the 2nd link
@Anthon - when I voted this morning there was someone else that had started the cycle to close and I hadn't seen who
 
@slm thanks. I googled before on the title but had missed that string. People initiating a cross post close should always comment where the cross post is IMHO
 
slm
@Anthon agreed
@RonVince yes but I've worked w/ people that have tried to "understand" unix by simply reading about things in a vacuum and have never been able to move past the entrance. Better to have practical applications in mind with "real" problems you're trying to solve to grok how technologies work.
 
slm
12:59 PM
All correct me if I'm wrong but these Q's are off-topic?
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Q: Could you give your TTY major mode?

zmoUnix users of every kernel, please help! I'm currently working on a serial port library which already uses special frameworks to get information about serial ports on the system. Though, serial ports are a fundamental design in Unix, as an answer such as this one proves, so I thought that a good...

voting to close with a explanation
 
@slm Should be closed, by every U&L user of every kernel
 
slm
1:15 PM
@Anthon - the OP has changed the A so that it's community wiki, I'm inclined to let it slide given that development.
@anthon - I'm going to retract my close vote on it
as a community wiki Q/A it's meant now as just a collection point for information about X. Seems saner to allow it on the site in this form. Thoughts?
 
2:17 PM
@slm the Q needs some cleaning up in that case. I will look at it.
 
slm
3:03 PM
@Anthon - OK, thanks.
 
slm
3:51 PM
If anyone knows anything about clipboards and the DE/X11 ideas would be appreciated on this Q
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Q: Knowing default clipboard manager

ÖskåThere are many Clipboard Manager for Unix-based Operating System but is there a way to actually know which one is being used? I am on Fedora 20 under Gnome 3.10.1 and I know that I'm using GPaste 3.10. But I would like to know if there is a command line which would ouput GPaste 3.10 (except gp...

 
@slm I know that they give me headaches
 
@slm I don't think it has anything to do with the actual clipboard. The OP is using whichever manager (parcelite, clipit, gpaste or whatever) they installed.
I think he's confused and believes that pasting goes through gpaste.
 
slm
@terdon I took the Q to mean which app is responsible for governing the clipboard. I know that the mangement apps don't actually manage it persay but rather collect the results as they come into the primary, clipboard & secondary but figured I'd double check w/ the rest if they had any ideas on the matter.
 
@slm Yeah but since the OP mentioned gpaste, I think the issue is just a confusion about what gpaste does.
 
slm
@terdon - hmm, I hadn't read it that way but you might be right
i'll ask him
 
4:06 PM
By the way, here's more than you ever wanted to know about the different clipboards:
http://jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html
 
slm
@terdon - wait, he says he knows there are many clipboard managers....
ha I read that one too while searching for the Q
 
@slm Yeah, I think the operative word here is managers. Managers are optional, you use whichever one you happened to have installed and clicked on.
 
slm
@terdon - yeah that's what I was trying to direct him to. The managers sit at the end of the pipe so they're taking in and providing a "service" around the pipe of items that are selected and added to the clipboards.
@terdon - gave him the link, thanks for the reminder, maybe it will help bridge the understanding gap 8-)
 
 
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6:07 PM
@derobert Slumming in AU?
 
@FaheemMitha Not really.
 
6:41 PM
@derobert Not in AU or not slumming?
 
7:08 PM
@FaheemMitha is there a difference? Isn't AU the network's slums? That or SU. :-*
 
@derobert Dunno. AU is certainly the whipping boy around here.
@derobert did you finish your pool app?
 
 
2 hours later…
9:24 PM
@FaheemMitha Almost. Going to try to get it to print bar cards in the next, err, two hours or so.
 
@derobert Congrats.
 
After that, the last thing to do is to get it to print the back side of the passes, too. That's just a matter of adding a second page to the PDF, which I already know how to do, and aligning it correctly.
Aligning it should just take a test print or two and a ruler.
Not sure which ruler to use. Nebuchadnezzar, maybe?
 
slm
@Braiam - so should that Q been closed or not?
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Q: Could you give your TTY major mode?

zmoI'm currently working on a serial port library which already uses special frameworks to get information about serial ports on the system. Though serial ports are a fundamental design in Unix—as an answer such as this one proves—I thought that a good way to test whether a file is a serial port is ...

 
9:40 PM
@slm I don't feel strongly at that one, but if you find a suitable close reason just use that ;)
with my comment I wanted just to point out that if a question deserves closure it should be closed, the CW isn't for questions that should be closed but to gather the community for a common goal
 
slm
Yeah that one I've left to Stephane who left the original comments saying it seemed on topic. He wanted it so I'm forgoing any more thinking on it 8-)
Steph suggested the CW just for the anti-rep "feature"
seemed to make sense to cast as a CW, he thought it was on topic and it's in his wheel house so I figured let him have at it
 
Hmmm... in a second, Iget the page from the printer, and we see if I get to try again...
Doesn't look right. And the bar code scanner says no.
One thing I do not like about Pango is it uses double-closed intervals.
 
10:10 PM
356792394
YEAH. It scanned. But that's a bigger version, now to get the smaller one to scan...
Hmmm. Code length is 90. Same as the barcode utility does.
Seems I can't get it to scan at less than 1" wide.
Will have to do some layout changes :-(
1939089329
YEAH! Actually printed. And worked.
645166168
Ok, time to stop scanning codes to the channel :-P
 

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