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slm
12:00 AM
@terdon - enscript can do syntax highlighting too. dzone.com/snippets/syntax-highlighting-enscript
never knew that
might want to take that Q and post it over here with a slant towards Perl, awk, etc.
 
WOW!
 
slm
would be good fodder for here
 
That is really cool, also renders my answer useless :)
 
slm
you'll be sure to get upvotes on a Q like that
 
Which, the one on making pdfs from source?
 
slm
12:01 AM
we'll I'm thinking there's room for your answer and an enscript one
 
At least mine offers the PDF and clickable index, that's useful
 
slm
right
 
@terdon nah, maybe I would like to use what I already have installed instead of installing something else
 
slm
that's why I'd say both are rell
 
"rell"? well*?
 
slm
12:02 AM
relevant
sorry that was a typo
 
Let me pass something by you guys
 
dirty money?
 
I am thinking of posting a meta Q about this
Have you guys noticed that questions don't tend to be upvoted here?
 
slm
enscript can make use of rule files so you can create additional extensions for langs
YES
 
This is an issue.
 
slm
12:04 AM
I always upvote Q's
 
@terdon not only here, in all SE sites
 
slm
+ answers
I try to use my votes every day and spread them around
 
yeah but particularly here. And it's surprising cause the hard core users seem not to vote either
 
slm
yes I've noticed that too
 
Any question that shows effort tends to be voted up by me
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Q: Perl and Python wrongly interpreted via shebang on Linux

appzer0that problem just drives me crazy. All my Python and Perl scripts are simply NOT iterpreted via shebang. Never. But they work as expected when I explicitly call the binary. I double checked my Perl and Python installations, it is just too strange: they shebang-way execution works very well in...

 
slm
12:05 AM
the bulk of the UV is the Q'ers + a few core + Gilles
I got busy today and didn't do my normal UV
try to get them in before 8pm EST
 
At least 4 people have commented on that question and only three have voted. My guess is that many of the 4 did not vote but other people did.
That is a great question, it shows effort and good will on the part of the OP. It's perfect (and interesting to boot).
 
slm
I think here the A's are typically more involved so it's slanted that way anyway
 
Yeah but we need to get people who ask as well, and they need some lovin!
 
check this stats
 
slm
My voting pattern is a bit of a process in my mind though
 
@Braiam could you give us the link to the data.se page that generated that?
 
slm
we'll I watch who's doing the participation and if I see them here a lot I'll go and do rounds of those ppl to see if they've done answers and focus on them 1st
 
Ah. thank you :)
@slm you mean upvote their answers?
 
terdon, you are there!
mm... I used min rep 5000 and min uv 20...
 
@Braiam what did you search for?
So, I have 965 upvotes, not bad :)
 
12:10 AM
Top 100 Users that rarely upvote in comparison to the estimated amount of upvotes they received
that...
Guilles and slm are below you :P
 
That's probably because we get a lot of votes since we're so active
965 upvotes is not bad
 
yeah, I put only 1000 min rep and ya dissapeared
 
I mean come on, apparently @slm "rarely" votes up and he has 4442 upvotes!
I'm not sure how that thing works, why would I disappear if you put in 1000 min rep?I have ~10k
 
> in comparison to the estimated amount of upvotes they received
the ratio went up when I used less rep users instead
 
Ah, yes, ok. But wow, Stephane has only voted 6 times!
 
12:15 AM
@terdon you liar! you have to be!
 
I have to be? What did I say!?
 
that's another... right?
 
???
 
Stephane Chazelas only upvoted 6 times... no?
 
Aparently:
Ah, no, I can't link
 
try minrep 1000 and mivotes 0
 
he only have 1k votes
 
Where do you see that?
And anyway, you're right, the query is wrong or is limited to the last N days or something, @slm only has 30 votes there which doesn't make sense either.
 
User     Stephane Chazelas
Ratio    432.25
Rep      43962
UV        1016
DV        68
 
slm
Yeah I would leave it at ppl vote how they want, but I've noticed it
 
12:20 AM
It just seems a shame is all.
 
slm
agreed
 
I'll post something on meta when I get around to it
 
slm
but there's a pool of ppl that participate in a variety of ways
 
I normally am not that active on UL but I read all the post that appears in the weekly newsletter
 
slm
Steph produces strong answers that teach everyone something, sometimes they're details other times they're left for others to fill in if they feel it's necessary, Gilles does the same, and is a mod. weeding out Q's that aren't strong or are off topic pretty much everyday
gilles does a fair amount of DV to weak answers to push them to the bottom of the list
i think others do too
i view the votes of kind of pumping entropy into the system, so I do that role
sturgee does too
renan too
not sure about caleb, he was more active here in the past, not so much now
 
12:24 AM
He's a mod on christianity
 
slm
he's a mod on the christian site
yeah
 
mm... I don't understand Guiles comment here unix.stackexchange.com/a/93524/41104
 
slm
so I'm sure he's busy, but he comes and acts as a mod here too.
I think that's a major thing on this site that's different. There's probably more mod types than Questioners.
which is a fine setup, so that's why I try to make sure to encourage the newer ppl either Q's or A's with a vote to give them some positive feedback
 
@Braiam I think he means that the OP does not really want to undo, he just wants the messages t go away.
 
yeah, the Q'ers / A'res average is quite high
 
12:26 AM
@slm agreed
Though I'm not sure, I think quite a few of the high rep users are only high rep here and are not necessarily aware of the details of how the SE sites work
 
slm
@Braiam - you mean his comment on your A
he's just saying that the OP didn't want to lose any delta existing b/w current system and the backup
 
yeah, I normally don't go and manually touching that file
ok, appart of manually editing the file, are there another solutions that apply to similar cases?
my solution is general for "hey this wasn't happening to me yesterday"
 
slm
Seems like the package is corrupt (at least the metadata about it). I would either remove it or fix it and possibly repackage it as my own, and pin the version in apt (if possible) and open an issue with the maintainer of the package.
 
@Braiam your solution is great for many cases (and I had already upvoted it) but Gilles is pointing out that reverting to a previous state was not what the OP wanted
 
ok, as you see he solved it by manually editing the file in the end actually...
 
slm
12:32 AM
@Braiam - I see why you're bugged by it, he likely downvoted it. He's said many times that he views that strictly as a way to push what he considers weaker or wrong answers down so that the more approp. ones show up on top.
 
I would have edited my answer to include the method of manually touching the file if he had pointing out that instead
 
slm
I've watched him for almost a year, he seems very robotic about it, I never seen him do it and it not be what he's genuinely thought. We chatted too about it, cuz I take each DV as a personal bump to me to try and fix it.
 
but his comment only left me like "huh, but it solves (most of) this situations"
 
slm
But I think what he's saying is that the package is really broken so that's should be the 1st answer someone else would come across, the restoring from backups is the next best option (again I'm reading his actions, this isn't necessarily what I would do)
don't even bother discussing w/ him any DV's. He will drop off and cut you off completely if you ask him about it
 
again, without constructive feedback most people feel lost...
 
slm
12:37 AM
agreed
 
@Braiam downvotes happen though. I got used to that more on SU where there are more hit and run down votes. It's not a big deal, it just means one person disagrees and you only lose 2 rep. I would try not to worry about it.
 
slm
he's human too, some days he might be less apt to leave a more helpful comment and DV, than on other days where he might feel inclined to edit your answer and upvote ya
 
@slm @Braiam do you agre with my edit here?
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Q: Enlightenment (E17) not opening settings windows or click menu

Mike GeorgeI cannot open any settings windows and cannot access the menu be clicking on an empty part of the desktop on enlightenment installed on Arch. What could be the problem? If it helps with finding the issue I'm running GDM for a desktop manager.

@slm are you sure? I think both he and Stephane are bots run by the French government
Hmm, no they're too fast and efficient for that, make it the German government.
 
@terdon yeah...
 
slm
remember there are no -1's for DV a Q. And he has such a stockpile of points they're meaningless to him. He's def. only interested in producing a high quality product here
@terdon - I agree, I"ve done that too, cut the fluff out
I'd be curious to meet them, it's hard to tell if ppl that get along online can too in the real world, but they're extremely gifted and know a ridiculous amount of stuff.
 
12:42 AM
ridiculous is the word, I mean wow...
I was looking through the TLDP pages the other day and, again, they were thanking stephan at the bottom og the page
 
slm
Steph. knowledge of history always blows me away, for being like 38-40 it's crazy how much history of these things he knows
where would you even get that knowledge
yeah I see him all over the net
i wonder if he had some job working on the specs or something, cuz why would you know the stuff that he does
 
Serious history buff?
> 2004 (7 months) Worked for Morse Group Ltd. Edinburgh, UK as a helpdesk engineer. Provided telephone support on Sun hardware and Sun, BMC and Veritas software (UNIX). British and French customers.
Imagine getting someone like Stephane when you call tech support, someone who not only actually knows more than you do but way way way more than you do
 
slm
yeah i went through his resume too, he must be, cuz the job that would explain it wasn't there
god
 
slm
the worst Q's are where the guy shows a line of code and no sample data, I can't figure out what he's asking, and steph. has provided him a couple of options in awk, grep, and perl
 
12:48 AM
:)
yeah
I'd found a good trick when I was living in spain and had to call my ISP's tech support. I'd ask them "Do you know what ssh is? FTP? HTTPS? DNS? No? OK, I want to talk to someone who does"
It tended to work, they'd pass me on to a real techie who could actually help me.
 
slm
this Q has been bugging me for 2 days
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Q: Extract audio from video in Linux with a GUI program?

cipricusWhen I use Thunar I like adding to custom actions command lines like those presented here, here and here to extract audio from videos. I mean without transcoding/altering the sound, just putting it out of the video (a flv or mp4 video, for example, is a aac audio - which cannot be played as such,...

can't get it to work with VLC
 
You mean you can't get your answer to work?
 
slm
I can't get VLC to do it
 
gimme a sec, I'll see if it works for me
 
slm
Here's one that step. answered that I asked for an example:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/93558/printing-match-groups-with-grep#comment141730_93558
he doesn't want to transcode the audio, just extract it
 
12:54 AM
[0x7f3c08012238] stream_out_transcode stream out error: cannot find video encoder (module:any fourcc:none). Take a look few lines earlier to see possible reason.
[0x7f3c08012238] stream_out_transcode stream out error: cannot create video chain
[0x7f3c08000958] main decoder error: cannot create packetizer output (h264)
@slm I know very little about this kind of thing but won't that depend on the format?
Ah, I remember that URL question, and I actually understood steph's answer though I was waiting for a reply to your comment before posting mine.
@slm if I run a GUI program remotely and have it display locally using ssh -Y, it is the remote graphics card that does all the work right? The only thing required of my local GPU is to update the screen with the info sent remotely right?
I am asking re this:
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Q: ssh -X: GLXBadRenderRequest

lauraI just set up an ssh server on my netbook, running Linux Mint 15. I have a program called fluxus installed on my netbook, which is basically a graphical rendering of scheme/racket code. I ssh'ed into my netbook using another computer running Ubuntu 13.04, and I got this error: laura@bbydhyoncho...

 
> install Nautilus (it is not at all problematic in eOS, contrary to Thunar, which comes with the whole Xfce environment).
wait till 3.10 comes along...
 
slm
yeah I got those type of errors too
yeah i understood his answer, but not the url to begin with
@terdon - yeah the local card does all the work
 
No, that's why I upvoted your comment, can't really give a good answer without seeing the format.
@slm the local one?
 
slm
the one running the X server
X is backwards
 
oh
huh?
 
slm
1:02 AM
the apps are clients, the server is where ever the monitor is
 
but it is the remote CPU that's working
 
slm
think about it. If you login to a computer that is in runlevel 3 (no GUI) you can remote display apps from it still to your system
 
no, OK, you mean the server is displaying but not doing the actual number crunching of the GUI
point
 
slm
right
the X server is like if you ever used a VAX where there were dumb terminals connected to one system
 
only in the library at university
but I know the idea
 
slm
1:04 AM
all the cpu resources of the app are on the system that's running the client app
yeah VMS is where I first learned unix
that's the OS for the VAX
 
The OP of the SU Q is trying to run fluxus, a 3D rendering or game design or something engine via ssh. Which GPU would be doing the rendering? The remote one right? Not the one where the X server is running.
 
slm
the remote one
 
ok, and then it would send the info down the ssh connection to the X server which would then use the local GPU to display. OK.
 
is there any functional multi seat server right now?
 
slm
we had a Sun GridEngine computer cluster with 150ish computers in for engineering at Kodak, all the crushing was on there, and the apps like matlab, mathmatica, Synopsis, Mentor Graphics were running there and the GUIs were remote displayed to Windows computers running Exceed (X server for win) and/or Sun systems
 
1:07 AM
Xorg borked up for what I read about
 
slm
@terdon - you mean drive 2 X servers w/ one X app?
 
No I mean, I connect to a headless box and run a GUI there and have it display on my local screen
 
slm
Those errors are the X server is missing libraries for openGL I think.
 
So, the remote GPU is doing the work and then telling my X what to display, which it does using my local GPU
@slm exactly, but which one. The OP said the program works fine on the remote when not exporting
 
slm
1:10 AM
look on server to see what's installed, then compare what is on remote system
give me a couple of minutes, my kid is having a tantrum......
 
needs export DISPLAY=xserver_ip_address:0.0 perhaps?
 
Ouch, go enjoy parenthood :)
 
It works! It works! you just need to add --type=radio to the get-iplayer command.
 
@Braiam no, that's been done.
@TRiG hi. Um. What? :)
aaa
the bbc thing you posted a few hours ago
 
@terdon aaa?
oh... ohhh
 
1:12 AM
So now I have that documentary on the Dewey Decimal system I wanted.
 
Sorry, greek thing, it means Oh, I see!
 
@terdon Yup.
 
Well, well done you!
 
I have to scrool up pretty hard to look at that :(
 
Hey, did you ever collect a comprehensive list of animals used idiomatically @TRiG?
@Braiam it was on my screen when I logged in so I remember.
 
1:13 AM
@terdon Comprehensive? No.
 
Large?
Long?
I thought it was an intriguing idea but very bad for a SE Q
 
@terdon Yeah. It was just an amusing comment on a Slacktivist blog post which I though the denizens of the Incomprehensible Room would appreciate.
 
This one did.
 
slm
1:42 AM
@terdon - I answered the GLX Q on SU
back to tantrum, needed a break 8-)
 
 
1 hour later…
2:55 AM
@slm cool, thanks :)
 
 
1 hour later…
4:21 AM
Just to dispel any lingering doubts:
 
 
2 hours later…
5:54 AM
Hi, I don't understand the answer here: unix.stackexchange.com/a/93775/15760. The question seemed to say that sort foobar > whatever and sort -o whatever are equivalent. But the answer says that "You can't go to the same file with redirection, the output redirection wipes the file." What does that mean and how does it relate to the question? OP has accepted the answer and it has three upvotes and it makes sense to others.
But could someone please explain in a different way how the answer relates to the question?
 
 
10 hours later…
4:03 PM
Anybody has a minute and a bluetooth laptop + phone nearby? I need to test something.
 
4:41 PM
Sorry, I have neither.
 
5:27 PM
@vasa1 If you are trying to sort and put the results in the same file, you might be tempted to use "sort < foo > foo". The problem with doing so is that the output redirection truncates the file to nothing and then there is nothing to sort any more. Using the -o flag means that sort does the work of juggling a temporary file and putting the results in place of the original unsorted file.
 
6:06 PM
@kurtm thank you for explaining. Appreciate it!
 
6:41 PM
@vasa1 No problem. I edited my answer to make it clearer for others.
 
7:29 PM
@slm do you have a minute?
 
slm
7:53 PM
@terdon - shoot
 
I just have a weird problem on apache
I have a text input field and I paste a list into it
one item per line
apache/perl scrip interprets that as a list separated with \r\n
instead of \n
Everything is on a linux system, there is no Windows machine involved
I ended up parsing it out in my script but why does this happen?
@slm only if you know the answer off the top of your head, don't waste your time searching since I've found a workaround.
 
did you save it with unix line end?
 
@Braiam I did not save anything. Just selected lines from my terminal (linux) and pasted into the <textarea> in firefox
this was passed to my script with \r\n line endings
the server is running on a linux virtual machine as well
 
weird...
 
yeah
I have the feeling it might depend on the Perl module I'm using. I did not see this problem with php
 
8:05 PM
bleh... found a bug...
 
slm
8:20 PM
@terdon - don't know of anything related to that
 
fair enough. I guess I'll have to check the internals of the Perl's CGI module. Thanks anyway @slm
 
slm
@terdon - anytime
 
@slm voting is not a mod activity at all
 
Wow, you read the backlogs huh?
:)
 
I actually don't do that much mod stuff here (like closing — nowadays I close them as I see them but I don't review much)
@terdon skim
 
slm
8:34 PM
@Gilles - did I say it was? If I did I didn't mean it in just that sense. Mind pointing to where I said that?
 
@slm where you said what?
 
slm
voting is not a mod activity at all
 
20 hours ago, by slm
Steph produces strong answers that teach everyone something, sometimes they're details other times they're left for others to fill in if they feel it's necessary, Gilles does the same, and is a mod. weeding out Q's that aren't strong or are off topic pretty much everyday
20 hours ago, by slm
so I'm sure he's busy, but he comes and acts as a mod here too.
hmm, I may have misread. Not sure who you were talking about in that second message
 
@slm if you click on the little arrow to the left of posts that are replies to other posts you will be taken to the original post
 
slm
yeah when I click it i get a pull down and don't see a choice to go back
 
8:38 PM
Not that arrow, the one that does not appear on this post
@slm but does on this one
 
slm
@Gilles - i was talking about you in that 2nd statement
 
Just to the left of the @
 
slm
yup if i click on it i see a pull down
if i hover it shows highlighted what it was in reply to
That stmt was about you seem to come in around 4-5 EST each day and do some weeding out
 
wrong arrow. You want the smaller grey one between the one you hover and the @ mention. It looks like an inverted Enter/Return arrow.
 
@slm no, not the left margin, this arrow: ↰
 
slm
8:40 PM
AHHH
never noticed that little one in there
yeah I didn't mean that it was up to mods to vote, I meant that you come in and do daily weeding is all
@terdon - we have to watch what we say, they read everything 8-)
 
D:
 
I'm telling 'ya they're bots dammit.
 
slm
@Gilles - are you a bot? 8-)
@terdon - they're usually programmed to say no
 
@slm you need to preface that with !! or he won't answer.
 
slm
why's that?
or is that a !! as in the shell?
 
8:48 PM
@slm that's an awfully personal question
 
slm
lol
 
@terdon no, with sudo
 
slm
great you made laugh out loud and now my kids think I'm laughing at them
 
@Gilles :)
@slm a lot of the chat bots take commands written as !!command
 
slm
That's even better
 
8:50 PM
At least the one on the SU chat room does.
 
slm
ah
are there really bots in the chat room then?
i thought that was just a reference to the irc style ones
 
Not this one (well, unless @Gilles decides to own up)
 
@slm in some of them, yes. Not here
 
slm
what do they do in the SU one?
anything interesting?
 
Not really, they greet new users and have some fun commands
 
slm
8:51 PM
ah
 
they've been testing them out, just log into the SU chat room and you'll see soon enough
brb
 

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