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12:58
@JaskaranbirSingh Welcome! So you finally joined in. Great! Now I can bug(ping) you anytime. :D
13:35
@Firelord Haha no problem xD
 
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17:37
@Firelord Sorry for my late reply I was trying to unbrick my phone. I will try to flash Lollipop os again but could you please tell if I messed up with partition table then there is no option to recover it. is there any option to format internal partition and build again like we do for PC. I have tried all possible options. I tried to format using fastboot but it stuck on erasing "partition" like erase "system" or etc. Even a little help is appreciated.
@VighaneshGursale I never tried changing my partition table but I absolutely know that it is possible and many people have done that before (XDA is filled with such things). Also, scatter file has the partitions start and end location inside it, so you should be able to correct them if they are messed up somehow, provided that you've the right tool to edit them.
// And that messing up with partition table was a guess because I couldn't think of anything else for your issue, and I remember that you could boot into Custom Recovery at least, so keep it untouched when flashing Lollipop ROM using SP Flash tool.
But for a clean start, a complete format using that tool would be a better thing so that partitions table can be rebuild using scatter file provided in stock Lollipop or whatsoever ROM you've.
Check YouTube so that you could know what those options in SP Flash Tool does, you would also come to know how to Format and rebuild table, among other things.
18:25
@Firelord thank buddy I will try to do as you said I will update you guys soon :) cheers
@VighaneshGursale Just a note: Please don't held me responsible for some unforeseen incident (hint: hard-brick). I'm just a poor soul. :)
No bro I won't held you for anything I know I am doing all this just to understand how this stuff works. But should I expect help if I need
@VighaneshGursale Yeah of course, help is what this community does. I would recommend posting a question.
Just for information if I am successful in flashing lollipop then is there any possibility to go back to a custom rom of Kitkat
I asked question but didn't got any useful answer
18:45
@VighaneshGursale Well people have done that on other kind of phones (except Yureka I think which bricks in the process) so it should be possible, but I won't give you any false hopes. All I would say is get your phone ready for at least normal usage, and this Kitkat part can be figured out later on your question.
ok no problem if I would able to get a new phone I will definitely give a try. Thanks for help god bless you.
19:44
@Izzy I'll update you here if I see further deviation in the updated Secure Settings.
20:01
@Firelord Thanks! I'll compare then with my installation. Seems to deviate, depending on Android version. Or maybe there are no more updates for "lower versions"?
Version here seems to be 1.3.6
(according to the Menu › Changelog page in the app)
@Izzy May be depending upon Android version, but whatever are visible to me in Android 4.2.1 , I'm sending them in text format to you in a matter of 5 minutes.
Yupp. But what shall I do with the graphic, if it's different for each Android version?
Latest version according to playstore is the same I'm running. And my settings match the graph.
If I don't see how to change it (to make "everyone" happy), I better stick to what I can verify myself (and thus the graph is useful for me, too).
@Izzy Wow! Is that true? Then even my list wouldn't be enough, though I can send you the list of 4.4 and 5.0 as well with screenshots as evidence, if needed.
@Firelord If you could check if there are deviations between 4.4 and 5.0, that would be great. If you have the chance to verify for 4.2/4.3 as well, Hurray to you. If for all those version everything is the same, I'd say send me the list to cross-check with 4.1 – and I might put some "*" behind the changed ones, and point out what's going on here.
Or I switch it around, make the graph show "4.2+", and make the "*" tell what is different below.
I don't really have any access to Androids other than 4.2.1 , 4.4.2 and 5.0.2. So I would be sending what I have and may be you can take it further.
20:11
Makes more sense, as 4.1 is "pretty old" already (blame the vendors/manufacturers for their update policy).
@Firelord Great, thanks! Let's see if diff is able to process the files :)
Ouch. @Firelord, as as you've started with "incremental changes", for 4.4.2 please point out changes to 4.2.1, then for 5.0 those against 4.4
with some luck, your next files stay empty ("nothing changed") ;)
20:47
@Izzy pastebin.com/X0k67ibv -- Secure Settings 4.4.2 vs 4.2.1; pastebin.com/gYU6Tsu8 -- Secure Settings 5.0.2 vs 4.2.1; pastebin.com/xQ6xuh3N -- Secure Settings 5.0.2 vs 4.4.2
21:09
Well, Is it really professional or I'm overreacting (I doubt the latter) that this help-center page has some free-hand drawing which seems to be amateurish the least? (Well, no offense meant but it just feels)
// Haha! We even have an tag. (Pun)
 
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22:58
@Firelord Yes we have. For questions migrated from elsewhere without matching tags. Dies daily when re-tagged and no other untagged question is there – so don't get the idea to write up a tag-wiki for it. Too many did that in the past :)
@Firelord Thanks a lot! I have my bets for the older versions. This seems to document features taken away from the average user with each new Android version :(
So apparently it doesn't make much sense doing versioning here. I'd rather point out that things get moved to System+ Actions whenever a feature was taken out of reach for the average user to be toggled by a "normal app", and have a memorial list maybe :(
@Izzy Well, what did you use to make that humungous graph?
Graphviz
so it's basically just a simple text file converted to a PNG :)
IIRC, there's a link next to them to download that.
@Izzy Nice idea. :)
I love that. Easy to maintain, and still full of effect :)

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