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AIQ

04:23

Asking Op for accepting the answer and an upvote. The answer does not look very reliable either. ell.stackexchange.com/questions/228930/which-one-is-more-polite

Anonymous

12:46

Darn, my quasi-serial verb construction tag got removed.

ColleenV

13:59

@snailcar T’wasn’t me. Did it have a description of what it was for?

Anonymous

14:20

Oh, it probably got removed a long time ago.

Anonymous

I remember there were a couple people a few years back who didn't like technical-sounding tags.

Anonymous

The QSV construction is stuff like this:

Anonymous

> Go get some milk.

Anonymous

Serial verbs are a thing in a lot of languages, where you basically just put verbs one after another.

Anonymous

English has a much more limited construction in which the first verb must be a verb of motion, typically come or go (but this varies by dialect), and both of which must be in their plain form.

Anonymous

14:25

It can be compared to hendiadys:

Anonymous

> Go and get some milk.

Anonymous

So people sometimes suggest that it's a reduced version of that in which the and is ellipted, but that doesn't seem like the most likely explanation historically, and it's not really that parsimonious as an explanation since it doesn't explain the special constraints on the ellipsis (e.g. I went and got some milk is fine, but not *I went got some milk).

Anonymous

Anyway, I liked that tag because it's a little hard to search for questions about it.

Anonymous

It's sometimes referred to as the go get construction.

Anonymous

That name might be a little easier for people in a tag name, I suppose.

ColleenV

14:34

@snailcar interesting, when you explain it I see the issue, but in typical native speaker fashion I hadn’t noticed it before

I do think we need tags for concepts which are difficult to explain in a few words with non-technical language

There are quite a few which are common sources of confusion, but are hard to search for

Like the one where “lion” can refer to the species or an individual example of a lion... we have a couple of questions around that but I can never find them because I never have the issue summed up in my head with the correct search terms.

Anonymous

www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/000001.html

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Anonymous

But yeah, point taken.

ColleenV

@snailcar I mean, I’m ok with the technical language

In cases where we really need it to avoid a paragraph

Re-reading, I think my sentence was ambiguous

Maybe a glossary of useful tags that laypeople might not understand without an example

In the contributors guide

amanuel2

20:27

@M.A.R. u alive?

M.A.R.

@amanuel2 by most definitions, yes

amanuel2

Do you think this is a runon sentence? " In order to solve this the Trump administrators should stop worrying about placing policies which separate parents from children and start to raise money to increase the amount of camps to help with the immense amount of immigrants coming every day"

M.A.R.

Wasn't a run-on sentence supposed to be wrong or something?

This one isn't

It's just so comic

amanuel2

Oh im sorry if your a trump supporter, just have to write my essay :P

and thanks

M.A.R.

Meh, I'm too far to support Trump or pull the rug he's standing on

Everyone is just much better off leaning against the wall

amanuel2

20:33

Damn, I have a feeling you could be a really good poet

that first line was real good

M.A.R.

Why, do poets lean against the wall?

@Cowp do you lean against the wall

Or are there no walls in Russia, the buildings do a lot of push-ups

Harharhar the number of stereotypes I pull on Russia makes my eyes water

Which is a good thing

BTW I came in to link to something funny but forgot

Thanks, Obama

That looks like a DNA replicating, but YMMV.

Either that, or a nematode

amanuel2

Dont have a clue what your talking about lol, english is so above my level

M.A.R.

20:51

@amanuel2 so, uh, you're speaking in German right now?

How is it above your level?

Off the top of my head, your English is at least upper B2

amanuel2

I meant to say your english*

my bad

also im native, so yeah

amanuel2

21:19

Hopefully get an A in this essay :)

userr2684291

21:33

@amanuel2 M.A.R.'s actually a freestyle rapper, if you were wondering.

amanuel2

21:49

Intresting

userr2684291

@amanuel2 Maybe put a comma after this and before and? I'd also change start to raise to start raising, to make it parallel with stop worrying. This might be some kinda personal preference, though. It's not a run-on sentence. It is kinda lengthy and repetitive to... to... to..., (you could perhaps write ...the amount of camps, which would help with the large influx... to slow it down a little) but it's still relatively easy to understand.

amanuel2

@userr2684291 thanks!

userr2684291

Np. I hope you get an A, too.

@M.A.R. gg wp

@M.A.R. Also, that's not how you write an uppercase g? Wth. I'll accept the weird American version over that.

They do the same with their uppercase a's, though.

Anonymous

22:31

There’s more than one cursive script, and not everyone learned the same one, back when kids used to still learn cursive.

Anonymous

I think it’s mostly obsolete knowledge these days.

M.A.R.

@snailcar who writes anymore, amirite. It's just Alexa these days.

@amanuel2 He's being such a @userr. I'm not a freestyle rapper

My style is very expensive

Wait, is it the free free meaning or the free software meaning

@userr2684291 Cursive English is on my list of definitely-do-it-but-meh-too-lazy

I'm pretty awesome in Persian though, you should see me write.

After taking a few classes on Persian.

I just . . . write G.

userr2684291

@snailcar I know, I know! You've told me! But to my mind, there's this... scoliotic version of the uppercase G that's representative of American handwriting. I refer to that as the American version.

M.A.R.

So it might look like Gal Gadot or Gargoyle or Gargamel depending on my mood

userr2684291

@M.A.R. Gee.

M.A.R.

22:40

No u

@amanuel2 Oh then it's A1, ugh. Unless you don't use txtspk.

Actually, makes me wonder. What range would native speakers fit in?

B2–C2?

B1?

C3?

Stoney is C3

> Your English is so good others need to understand it.

amanuel2

Tf is A1

userr2684291

@M.A.R. Snail's C4 (she da bomb).

amanuel2

Damn yall have codes for english, intrestin

M.A.R.

Tf? Tiffany?

@amanuel2 no it's just a learner thing

tracktest.eu/english-levels-cefr

Only learners worry whether their English is good enough, so we come up with ranks.

@userr make me a sandwich

amanuel2

No Tf is a slang for "The f-word" lol

userr2684291

22:45

@M.A.R. There's probably a special category, native, or something like that.

M.A.R.

@userr2684291 That joke is just

@amanuel2 Oh. We also have a code for that

userr2684291

@M.A.R. I know, right.

amanuel2

i shouldnt be using texting slangs in chatroom lol mb

my bad*

M.A.R.

YOU DO USE TEXTSPEAK!

userr2684291

@amanuel2 Lol wth bbq.

M.A.R.

22:46

SACRILEGE

txtspk ftw noob

userr2684291

@M.A.R. I feel embarrassed for you.

Haha.

M.A.R.

Thank you. Much appreciated.

Still waiting for that sandwich

I had lentil stew for dinner and now I feel unacceptably healthy.

Need to make up for it.

userr2684291

@amanuel2 Slangs? Are you a native speaker of English? I've never seen slangs used as a count noun.

amanuel2

Yeah im a native speaker

born from Ethiopia precicely

also im finna drive catch yall later, and thanks for the help!

M.A.R.

👋

userr2684291

22:49

Cya.

M.A.R.

^ This looks like a grey hand in my computer

So Batman.

BTW

Happy Halloween!

3

userr2684291

Thanks. I don't... celebrate? that. It's not a big deal here.

M.A.R.

Well me neither

userr2684291

It's a markedly American thing. Sometimes there's costumed parties and stuff, however, for the occasion.

M.A.R.

I don't need an excuse to go binge-eating chocolate

What should normal FBS levels look like?

Because mine doesn't seem inclined to climb down 100. It's medication side effects but it also means sugar is literally figuratively poison

userr2684291

22:55

We have this, which I think takes place in Feb., where kids (which I once was) masquerade and stuff.

M.A.R.

They were researching a while ago whether sugar consumption affect the immune system, they found some correlations but I don't remember if there has been a follow up

Well we don't have those

userr2684291

I've never measured my blood sugar levels.

M.A.R.

You're too sweet hon

Unless you're made of mostly fructose

That's a deal breaker

userr2684291

Actually, I did go to the hospital and let them draw some blood (I don't know the medical term), so maybe they measured it regardless.

Like, when I was sick and such.

M.A.R.

"Vampiring"

Duh

userr2684291

22:59

Oh, the Red Cross guys were at my uni recently, and my professor stopped me in the hall as they were leaving, and said "The vampires are leaving. They took all the blood, till the last drop.", lol.

M.A.R.

@userr2684291 Did they do it before breakfast?

userr2684291

Hm... I don't think so.

M.A.R.

Probably not then unless they were having fun

It's called Fast Blood Sugar for a reason

It has Vin Diesel

userr2684291

The Red Cross periodically comes over and takes students' blood as part of the... ugh, I don't know the term again. Blood gifting?

M.A.R.

Donation

userr2684291

23:01

Right. That sounds better.

M.A.R.

What if someone needs blood?

userr2684291

They have needles for that?

(:

M.A.R.

Like, our class is 60 students but I bet 10 at least have anemia for one reason or another

userr2684291

Also for no reason, probably.

I'm quite anemic on those days myself, tbf.

M.A.R.

Did one of them look like this

userr2684291

23:03

Yes.

M.A.R.

userr2684291

Yeah, some old lady did resemble that figure.

Hahah.

M.A.R.

Well OK, that's settled.

userr2684291

They lure you with juice and cookies.

M.A.R.

If you have further questions, forward them to my email.

userr2684291

23:05

My roommate's gf donated her blood.

M.A.R.

And then

It turned out Dracula is in probation?

userr2684291

I remember that evening vividly... I came to my apartment and I was about to study, and then...

M.A.R.

Frankenstein came to save her?

OMG the suspense

You found out you're in a Scorsese movie and everywhere is painted in blood?

Trump got elected?

userr2684291

She started recounting the entire affair first to her family, then friends, then some other people she probably didn't even know. I was upset because she asked me at the beginning if it's okay if she talked on the phone in the middle of the house and I said it's fine.

M.A.R.

How many questions do I get?

userr2684291

23:08

She kept talking on her phone for about 3 hours. No kiddin.

M.A.R.

Oh, that's worse than all the above combined

THE PAIN

userr2684291

I couldn't've known, could I have.

M.A.R.

I get you bro

@userr2684291 yes you could

userr2684291

She's unusually talkative.

Most people begin to irk me at some point.

M.A.R.

Lol, reminds me of one of my donors that was passing out after they took a blood sample

userr2684291

23:10

Lol.

M.A.R.

I was the dialysis patient and I was carrying him to lie on a bed

Good times . . . slightly.

userr2684291

I hope you donated some blood to help him out...

M.A.R.

The ninth donor ended up matching.

@userr2684291 Well I think if my blood drips on the ground it will dissolve it

userr2684291

Cool.

M.A.R.

It had so much poison, dracula would've called it junk food

userr2684291

23:12

Haha.

That's a good joke.

M.A.R.

Like most of my other jokes of course

userr2684291

This was your first one here though, right?

Haha.

M.A.R.

Oh, that reminds me

JOKERRRR

Meh

userr2684291

I haven't seen it.

Any ... Joker movie.

M.A.R.

I'm not entirely convinced Philips can come up with a unique story

@userr2684291 well there's just one I guess

userr2684291

23:16

I thought there were multiple.

M.A.R.

The rest are propaganda to make Batman look good

Unless, WTH are you saying, that you . . . no, can't be . . . that you HAVEN'T watched The Dark Knight?

userr2684291

Yeah, I don't know. I'm probably mistaken.

I've seen it.

M.A.R.

31 mins ago, by M.A.R.

SACRILEGE

Oh. Phew.

Few Phew.

userr2684291

I think it was an okay movie. Don't remember much of it.

M.A.R.

I haven't seen it either obviously, three months later it will be available for download.

userr2684291

23:18

Haha.

Ikr.

My friends have probably all already seen it.

M.A.R.

Well they say it sucks as social commentary but is an obvious Oscar contender for Phoenix

And I'd say the guy is pretty underrated, more power to him

userr2684291

I really disliked the Phoenix movie.

The X-Men one, right?

M.A.R.

But the best of the best movies stand on their own, their message is so resonant and deep that even a mediocre performance by an uninterested actor couldn't ruin it, now couple that with the best actors doing their best sending these messages.

userr2684291

Is that what you're talking about?

M.A.R.

Those are movies I'd like at the top of IMDB

Do you mind, I'm giving a speech here

@userr2684291 Ugh, not that piece of crap.

Joaquin Phoenix

Joaquin Rafael Phoenix (; né Bottom; born October 28, 1974) is a Puerto Rican-born American actor, as well as a producer, and an activist, who has received several accolades, including a Grammy Award, a Golden Globe Award, and nominations for three Academy Awards. Phoenix started acting in television series with his brother River Phoenix and sister Summer Phoenix. His first major film role was in SpaceCamp (1986). During this period, he was credited as Leaf Phoenix, his self-given name. He later went back to his birth name, Joaquin, and received positive reviews for his supporting work in several...

userr2684291

23:22

Oh... Reminded me of that guy who plays Chuck Finley in Burn Notice.

At first...

M.A.R.

Hmm, yeah, his role in You Were Never Really Here looks more so

He's the spoiled brat from Gladiator

The protagonist from Her

His performances are usually uniquely poetic on their own

He's also the only real actor in Shyamalan's Signs

Anyway, 3 a.m.

userr2684291

I've only seen Gladiator, and I don't really remember it.

M.A.R.

Thanks for nothing, entertainingly yellow internet avatar. G'night

userr2684291

No worries. Get some rest, good night.

Currently reading another mystery novel (as you might suspect, 'tis the (exam) season).

I figure it's better than playing games and curb stomping noobs.

amanuel2

23:49

@userr2684291 ouh what games do u play :}

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