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Anonymous

06:04

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ jstor.org/stable/486479

Anonymous

Not an answer to your question, but a little discussion of p̚ for you.

Anonymous

@Man_From_India In what degree sounds kinda funny to me. That's all I know.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

09:17

@snailboat Even the preview is not available :/

userr2684291

09:27

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Have you heard of Sci Hub?

One of my mentors at uni (who has a bunch of published articles), for example, told me he completely condones using it. He told me he gets nothing from them in terms of money despite their being behind fat paywalls.

Er, by articles I mean these... scientific articles. I'm not sure what they are called in English. Research papers?

Yep.

My uni has access to a couple research paper databases, however, and is subscribed to many scientific journals, or whatever they're called.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

09:50

@userr2684291 AFAIK there is an interesting ongoing ethical discussion about it

People that produce the content benefit very little from it, apparently

It's the journals that are racking money

userr2684291

Well yeah.

Even textbooks don't pay that much. I suppose it depends, but our uni professors often tell us to find their used or second-hand books, instead of buying new ones. And the books they talk about weren't published more than like 5 years ago. One of them told us that from a single purchase of a 400 HRK (~around 65 USD) book they get "less than 2 HRK, but more than 0", heh.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@userr2684291 That sounds like the mathematical definitions of infinitesimals

@userr2684291 Yeah, and the authors of articles aren't paid by journals at all

So it's a case of a flaky shaky legislation

And the discussions of morality fall thin.

CowperKettle

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CowperKettle \o

Q: Is it immoral to download music illegally?

I should first point out that the title is more to capture a common occurrence of the broader idea I want to address in this question. It is also somewhat incorrect in that—at least in the US—I'm not sure it's actually illegal to download music without paying (per se), but rather to share it. But...

userr2684291

Um, is it just me or is Cowper not here...

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

10:05

It's just you. And he's not here.

He does that a lot. Like Batman

userr2684291

Haha. The number of present users was 3 on my screen when Cowper wrote that.

I find it absurd to pay for most rich people's "art".

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@userr2684291 Well, me too if the art has double quotes.

I like it when rich rappers talk about poverty.

userr2684291

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I mean most music. Or all commercial music.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Ha, quote of the day

Q: Did Jhring coin the bon mot "In Germany everything that is not allowed is forbidden"?

On a website collecting aphorisms, we find: In Deutschland ist alles verboten, was nicht erlaubt ist; in England ist alles erlaubt, was nicht verboten ist; in Rußland ist alles erlaubt, was verboten ist. Rudolf von Jhering –– (1818 - 1892), deutscher Rechtswissenschaftler, erster V...