Traditional grammar strikes again. To correct them or not? I think it won't matter. To the kid it'd be just extra stuff to learn (for no reason), and they'll be tested on what they were taught in school anyway.

"No, they have it all wrong. Things have changed in the last one hundred years. Here's the new framework: blah blah blah." Without understanding why they'd need the new paradigm they can't possibly appreciate it or want it. Where would they need it anyway? "No, mate, I'll bet you another beer that's not an adjective but a noun!"

(Or the internet equivalent. Which is just staying up late, arguing over something no one but the most clued-in can confirm.)

Okay, okay, maybe I'm focusing too much on the asker and how that might help them specifically. I should be thinking in the direction of providing factual information to everyone interested in the topic.

Both of them are ten times as common in BrE than they are in AmE, according to GloWbE.

@userr2684291 I don't like NOAD, because it is simply a poorly edited derivative of ODE. They probably did it to penetrate the North American market.

@snailboat We entered at the same time.

I wanted to tell you there is one American dictionary that uses IPA.

And that is the Merriam-Webster's Advanced Learner's English Dictionary.

@snailboat I would pronounce it like wiu.

@snailboat OMG!!!

Now who knows what the pronunciation of phew is, I think it's fiu, but who knows!

en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/whew

Lists both pronunciations.

This makes for an interesting question on the main site.

I have been thinking of getting a pronunciation dictionary.

It is authoritative because it is written by someone whose name starts with a J.

@snailboat What is ODP? I supposed EPD is the CEPD.

I am not aware there is such a dictionary.

Is it the one that is now published by Routledge?

@snailboat Yes, it is now in its second edition by Routledge. I wanted to say I don't like it either!

So ODP has become RDP.

I find that the pronunciations are very restrictive.

For example, esplanade and promenade. They only list one variant for the BrE.

But the bigger BrE dictionaries list two variants.

Yes, that is much better.

Yes, much better than RDP.

That one is a bit confusing, considering the sqare dancing part.

Anyway, I am going to take a nap, later.

@snailboat Could you summarise why you prefer Longman Pronunciation Dictionary to Cambridge English Pronouncing Dictionary and Routledge Dictionary of Pronunciation (first edition published by Oxford)?

@snailboat I have posted a question inspired by our discussion: ell.stackexchange.com/questions/197032/…

Hi @snailboat I see you again, LOL.

I heard it in the meaning "intended for people with a poor grasp of [something]": I apologize if this is remedial.

It seems like a useful word to know in the situation I implied in that example sentence.

Saves a couple of words I suppose.

@snailboat I didn't think the usual suspects (like /f/ and /j/) could aptly describe the pronunciation of that exclamation. You need your whole face to pronounce it (in my experience), haha.

I don't think the two are pronounced the same way, even though I pronounce them the same way. The same with write and right. In the case of the former, I'll make as if I'm about to say /w/ but then don't say it (then again, /r/ involves a similar mouth position, which is why I'm probably not that off).

The /h/ in phew is more akin to the German /h/ ([ç]) the way I pronounce it.

Wait a minute.

/h/ and /j/ is [ç]. This is more frontal, more /š/-y.

Alright, I'm done.

I thought my question would have gotten 9000 votes by now.