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CowperKettle

00:58

> "It's important to keep in mind there's some uncertainty with this estimate," Nielsen said. "But even the lowest part of the age range — at least 272 years — still makes Greenland sharks the longest-living vertebrate known to science."

Wow

@Jasper And "juice" is also a word for "electricity"

CowperKettle

01:11

> If three people were arrested after fighting in a bar, that is an incident (but not an accident – because the fight was not by chance; they intended to fight).

Anonymous

02:13

@ColleenV Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check it out! :-)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

07:24

@CowperKettle Sounds like cool dude (?)

Captain Bohemian

08:02

the air temperature is only 14. 7 C now, being too low for me. tomorrow it will reach 26 C as the highest; I am looking forward to it.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Whoa

@CaptainBohemian 12 deg C rise in temperature in the span of a day, or am I misreading something?

Is it Sahara or something?

Maybe a giant frying pan

@snailboat This should be a slogan somewhere

Captain Bohemian

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ the change of air temperature is dramatic these days.

actually the forecast air temperature tomorrow is 15 to 26 C; I think it will only reach 26 C sometime around the noon.

I am thinking about going to take a warm shower tomorrow. I think if I go in late afternoon, it may be cold on the way.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Robusto Well, I'd say it's different than a normal SE with concrete conceptual problems and the average asker is less likely to be able to evaluate the validity of the answer

That part isn't the annoying part. The annoying part is where the askers run off to after accepting said answers

Never looking back

And if the question hits HNQ . . . nervous breakdown. Lots of insightful "+1 only this answers the question because I said so" comments from Uncle Bob.

@CaptainBohemian Do some physical activity in the early afternoon, and you won't feel cold after 4

Generally, IIRC, our bodies are said to have the highest daily temperature at around four to seven

That is, unless we ruin the metabolism and the different body rhythms with a sedentary lifestyle and Michael Keaton's hamburgers

Captain Bohemian

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I am in the concrete jungle so no much interest in ad hoc physical activities.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

08:17

I'm in a concrete jungle too

CowperKettle

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Yes ))

> Results of the rare study conducted in individuals age 40 years or younger showed those with blood pressure levels above 120/80 mmHg but who were not necessarily considered hypertensive, defined as 140/90 mmHg, had lower brain volumes in regions associated with cognitive impairment. medscape.com/viewarticle/908273

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Well, mostly a garden

Captain Bohemian

and I need to check research themes.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CowperKettle Is that good or bad?

CowperKettle

Even a tiny increase of blood pressure, it turns out, predisposes one to cognitive impairment. Wow.

Must be bad!

Captain Bohemian

08:18

and I am alone, having nobody to travel out of the concrete jungle. The only way is to get a position outside the jungle first.

CowperKettle

@CaptainBohemian Don't you have a park within 3 kilometers of your house?

Luckily, I live near a park, so I've jogged 6 kilometers today.

(is this okay grammatically?)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

"lower brain volumes in regions associated with cognitive impairment" means a smaller congregation of bad proteins or brain parts that keep you safe?

Captain Bohemian

@CowperKettle only artificial parks, which look very boring.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CowperKettle Why not?

CowperKettle

@CaptainBohemian Who cares! Physical activity is good for you

Captain Bohemian

08:20

I used to be in the suburb where there are real jungles every several steps.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CaptainBohemian That's like not studying because the pen is purple instead of blue

Some purple pens are REPULSIVE

CowperKettle

A photo I took today during my jog

Captain Bohemian

no scholar in those parks to talk to.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@SmokeDetector Ha what

@CaptainBohemian Physical activity usually means your legs and arms are supposed to be working, not necessarily your jaw :p

Captain Bohemian

I only like to climb rocks near a sea or in a mountain.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

08:23

I just do three sets of jumping jacks + squats + push ups if I didn't want to invest half an hour doing exercise

Captain Bohemian

I am not much interested in artificial parks.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

You could do it in your room

And it'd take 15 minutes tops

With 5 minutes of warm-up, obviously

Captain Bohemian

if there are a couple of scholars going to a conference and go to mountain climbing after it, that would be good.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Unless of course you would get bored in less than 20

Oh crap, my one hour is up

Back to studying, BBL

Captain Bohemian

position is the most important thing. If you don't have it, studying leads you nowhere.

and studying without position can't be funded.

though landlords get money effortlessly, they won't fund you.

Captain Bohemian

08:48

like now, I have hunger trouble,

because I am in a ruin, not an institute.

Jasper

09:18

@CaptainBohemian What are you studying now?

Captain Bohemian

@Jasper in a ruin.

Jasper

@CaptainBohemian I hope things will get better for you soon.

Captain Bohemian

now I am wondering if recommendation letters are the key.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

09:55

@CaptainBohemian Yeah, bad posture can cause back pain

SmokeDetector

10:11

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in title (65): “..so..that..” or “...too...that...” by a deleted user on ell.SE

Captain Bohemian

11:04

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I seldom have this problem.

my main problem is mania.

my position means a post.

CowperKettle

12:37

Is there a good universally understood abbreviation for gram-positive cocci?

CowperKettle

12:47

> Relationship of Dietary and Serum Zinc with Depression Score in Iranian Adolescent Girls link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12011-018-1301-6

CowperKettle

12:59

Republic-Ford JB-2

The Republic-Ford JB-2, also known as the KGW and LTV-N-2 Loon, was a United States copy of the German V-1 flying bomb. Developed in 1944, and planned to be used in the United States invasion of Japan (Operation Downfall), the JB-2 was never used in combat. It was the most successful of the United States Army Air Forces Jet Bomb (JB) projects (JB-1 through JB-10) during World War II. Postwar, the JB-2 played a significant role in the development of more advanced surface-to-surface tactical missile systems such as the MGM-1 Matador and later MGM-13 Mace. == Wartime development == The United States...

Wow, turns out the US built more than 1000 V-1 rockets

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

They're the good guys but they need to ensure they can bomb every inch to keep the world safe

It's all "preventive"

Basically, Ultron in disguise

> There was a statistically significant correlation between dietary zinc intake and serum zinc concentration (r = 0.117, p = 0.018).

Wow, amazing

Surely no one could have guessed.

For the record, I'm grumpy because it's after a heavy lunch

@CowperKettle "Marbles"

I think there was a shorter way to write "gram-positive" in an academic context but I don't remember it at the moment

CowperKettle

In Russian, it's Гр+ кокки

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

That's so badass

@CowperKettle I'm pretty sure goods prices has a stronger correlation

CowperKettle

I'm trying to understand whether this thing about zinc and depression really has something to it.

CowperKettle

13:27

Team America: World Police (1/10) Movie CLIP - Team America Intro (2004) HD

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M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

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Q: If someone's house is leaking can I say 'he is leaking'?

If someone's house is leaking can I say 'he is leaking'? His house is leaking sounds alright but I d like to know if 'he is leaking' is also possible. Thank you!

sentence-meaning

LOL

We don't have that in Persian, BTW

. . . I find myself guilty of using that research close reason now

CowperKettle

In Persian, unanimate objects do not have genders?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

It has a nice feeling of dirtiness to it >:)

@CowperKettle In Persian, there isn't a gender for anything that's not obviously male or female, heh

Such an easy language to learn.

CowperKettle

The first days of February are the hardest. It's still dark most of the day, and it gets very cold for about a weak, and everyone is tired of the winter.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

We never sat down and wondered if the sun is a woman or a man :p

CowperKettle

13:41

We neither, to a native speaker it's not a problem

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CowperKettle Are you at least close enough to the pole to see aurora?

CowperKettle

The endings of the words is a good giveaway of the gender

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ No, back in Noyabrsk we saw it regularly, but not here

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Arabic has noun genders, but we don't

@CowperKettle Well that sucks

You get all the shittiness of polar weather but none of its niceties

CowperKettle

Today, it's -42°C in Noyabrsk

And only -10 here

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Nice! Let's go for a swim

CowperKettle

13:43

I don't remember when Yekaterinburg ever got down to -42 degrees. Maybe one day or two over the last 20 years.

Кипяток на морозе. Нереально красивое видео

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You take some boiling water, and it turns to ice crystals in the air when it is minus 40

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Cooool. Literally

It'd get a bit messy if you sneeze though

CowperKettle

14:07

When some issue at work is caused by excessive load on people, it's "excessive workload". What is the word for equipment, rooms, and structures?

> High operational load of the rooms and construction elements relevant to pressure differentials.

I wrote it thus.

CowperKettle

14:18

The Horse, the Wheel, and Language

The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World is a 2007 book by David W. Anthony, in which the author describes his "revised Kurgan theory." He explores the origins and spread of the Indo-European languages from the Pontic-Caspian steppes throughout Western Europe, and Central and South Asia. He shows how the domesticated horse and the invention of the wheel mobilized the steppe herding societies in the Eurasian Steppe, and combined with the introduction of bronze technology and new social structures of patron-client relationships gave...

ColleenV

15:28

@CowperKettle That seems reasonable, although it’s hard to say without more context

@CowperKettle An interesting related book was “Guns, Germs, and Steel” It discussed how geography, available grains, pack animals, etc. led to Eurasia being more technologically advanced that the Americas

Captain Bohemian

15:41

I feel somewhat wonky.

I guess trolley is one kind of car I have seen in Beijing.

I have never had clothes having darns.

is appliqué an art or what?

where can rapscallions be found?

this home is very grimy.

now I find a word I can use to express my intention--myalgia

I can only have myalgia when overusing my muscles.

Captain Bohemian

16:31

If the thesis defence takes place before the three years of the fellowship are up, the fellowship will end the day after the defence.

CowperKettle

@ColleenV Thank you!

@ColleenV Yes, I read it long time ago, and have it in paper form

And the second famous, "Why civilizations fall"

> In the course of in-process monitoring of room 54 before work, a following non-conformance to the regulatory documentation requirements was discovered: air sampled by sedimentation contained 2 CFU (gram-positive cocci, gram-positive rods) against a limit of 1 CFU.

Is this an okay phrase, "against a limit of"?

Captain Bohemian

it turns out "up" can be used this way.

Having been finished; over: Your time is up.

ColleenV

@CowperKettle “the following non-conformance “

I would say “exceeding the limit of”

CowperKettle

@ColleenV Yes, I spotted it too! Thanks! ))

ColleenV

And I would probably write “to documented regulatory requirements “

Unless the requirements are about documentation

Jasper

16:38

Honestly, I have no idea what the original sentence even means, LOL.

ColleenV

I read “documentation requirements” as rules for what I must document and how I should do it...

Jasper

I feel this is the kind of sentence which should be rewritten instead of edited, but I am too lazy to think now.

We also really need to know the intended meaning of the sentence before we can confidently rewrite it.

CowperKettle

@ColleenV No, the meaning is "the requirements that are contained in the Regulatory Documentation" (the set of documents relevant to cleanroom management)

Jasper

@CowperKettle Many people have died in the US this week because of the cold weather.

CowperKettle

I know. My friend, who lives in Sleepy Hollow, said today it was -17

(Centigrade)

Jasper

16:43

There are people who die from the heat in other countries.

ColleenV

@Jasper Remarkably few considering how severe it is

Jasper

I was thinking, if only we can channel the heat from those places to those other places, everyone would be happy.

CowperKettle

@Jasper Before starting the production of medical drugs, cleanrooms are checked for excessive bacteria. In this room, there were more bacteria than required.

To check for bacteria, sedimentation plates are used.

These plates contain nutritive coating upon which bacteria grow quickly.

Creating colonies, which can be counted as CFU - colony-forming units.

Voila.

ColleenV

@CowperKettle so I would say “documented requirements” or simply “regulatory requirements “

CowperKettle

Okay, I ditched the requirements and left only "regulatory documentation"

ColleenV

16:46

Even better:)

Jasper

Today I went to a store selling Apple computers, and I heard the staff telling a customer all the wrong things about the computers. I didn't want to say too much, but it was really funny, and really bad. =)

I wanted to wait till the staff had gone before telling the other customer the correct things, but I couldn't wait that long.

I did tell the stuff some correct things, but he didn't buy it and insisted on his wrong things.

Well, that's also because I have done lots of research recently on these computers. =)

Captain Bohemian

@Jasper some time ago when I went to an observatory, I heard a father talked about something wrong about astronomy with others. Then I understand how ignorant the father is about astronomy. But I didn't bother to correct him. I don't usually do that kind of thing.

Jasper

@CowperKettle While monitoring room 54 before work, it was discovered that air sampled by sedimentation contained 2 CFU, exceeding the limit of 1 CFU required by regulatory documentation. Something along these lines might work for you.

@CaptainBohemian I usually correct others if it would help others in some way and if it does not take too much effort.

Captain Bohemian

he said something like "if today Venus transits across the sun, tomorrow Jupiter transits the sun, and next Thursday Saturn transits across the sun, next and next Tuesday Uranus transits across the sun, how do we have so much time to observe these phenomena?"

but only Venus and Mercury among the planets would transit across the sun, and the transit occurs very rarely, not as often as he said.

Jasper

I don't know about astronomy. Are you more of a physicist or a mathematician @CaptainBohemian?

Captain Bohemian

17:02

@Jasper I am of physics background; though I know some very math-oriented physics, I don't know much about pure math.

Jasper

@CaptainBohemian Aha! Have you heard of the 10 volume Landau Lifshitz Course of Theoretical Physics? I was amazed that someone had actually written 10 volumes, LOL.

Captain Bohemian

@Jasper I know the books, but I have never read any of them in detail. I have the impression any book written by Landau is very difficult.

Jasper

@CowperKettle I don't know what you mean by pressure differentials there. Differentials and derivatives are of course mathematical terms, but maybe you simply mean pressure differences there. Also, if you are just referring to the weight or mass of the rooms if this is a technical document, you can just use the term weight or mass as they are used in physics.

@CaptainBohemian There is another set of books recently translated from the German, and that is Theoretical Physics 1--8 by Nolting, which you may also be interested in.

Captain Bohemian

i don't usually intervene strangers' conversation. I would only correct the conversation of people I know.

Jasper

@CowperKettle I don't even know what gram-positive cocci means, let alone know any abbreviation for it, LOL.

Captain Bohemian

17:11

i once intevened with some scientific website's comments of some people but was criticized by them as something like pedantic.

Jasper

I never use the term pedantic myself. I believe something is right or wrong, good or bad, not pedantic or not pedantic, LOL.

Captain Bohemian

well, I think I am very rigorous with science but those people don't like my rigorous attitude.

Jasper

I hope you become a great physicist one day then. Don't forget me when you win the Nobel prize.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Cowp "against a limit" sounds okay to me

CowperKettle

18:13

@Jasper I might have it. I have a lot of physics. I have three volumes of lectures by Feynman. Unfortunately, I'm too dumb to understand them.

My dad has collected a book collection of several thousand volumes.

There are books everywhere.. on bookshelves, in cardboard boxes, etc.

A flatful of books.

I only contributed with a couple of shelves of books in English.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CowperKettle Or too smart

@Cat any idea where all the recent OT meta.SE posts could have come from?

It's a bloody downpour

CowperKettle

I think that people who can understand technical things and do something technical are the smartest.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Or just know that language better

The fact that I don't know Chinese doesn't make me dumber than someone who does

ColleenV

Being smart isn’t always as useful as being skilled

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But usually given time, if you’re smart you can become skilled

Captain Bohemian

I feel remembering a lot of words is very difficult. I just tend to forget words.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

18:21

Being smart isn't as skilled as being useful o.O Being skilled isn't as smart as being useful. Being useful isn't as skilled as being smart.

I wanna do some combinatorics right now

@CaptainBohemian If you use it, you'll remember it

If you don't, then why remember it?

Captain Bohemian

but I don't usually have problems in understanding scientific articles.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Userr you're purple now. Choking on something?

Captain Bohemian

obviously a lot of words are seldom used in scientific articles. Probably those words are mainly used by literary people.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CaptainBohemian Heh, the most recent articles I got myself to read were about the welfare of ESRD patients or transplant receivers. They all ended with "we conclude that we probably have no idea WTF we're talking about so further research is definitely necessary"

Pretty understandable.

For God's sake, there is not ONE conclusive article on what the hell I should do with my AVF.

userr2684291

Collocation of the day: abortive attempt

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M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

18:26

@userr2684291 I can't imagine how you came by that

Captain Bohemian

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I don't know ESRD and WTF. you know what? when I read medical articles, I usually don't look up every word I don't know because there are usually too many. I only try to know enough words for me to grasp the idea of that article.

userr2684291

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I saw it in a newspaper article.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CaptainBohemian WTF = "What the f*ck" and ESRD = "End Stage Renal Disease"

Captain Bohemian

usually I don't need to know a lot of chemical terms to know what the article is talking about.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Chemists are nice people

Biologists love big ass words

Botanists, God forbid

Physicists make up for jargon with sentences that make no bloody sense

userr2684291

18:31

How do you read f*ck? Fasterisck?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Mathematicians embed too many parentheses and Ln(x)

@userr2684291 That's probably a Swedish surname

Captain Bohemian

physics and math articles don't usually use very difficult words. Only high school English level is sufficient to understand them.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Fəck, probably

@CaptainBohemian High school English level and PhD philosophy level

userr2684291

Wait a minute... Doctor of Philosophy philosophy level?

How does one doctor philosophy?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I don't know. I don't have a PhD in philosophy

But the answer to that is probably cogito ergo PhD

userr2684291

18:44

Heh, when I was in high school we had a fun, though inappropriate, play on words with that one.

Captain Bohemian

I had the experience how many biological or chemistrical terms there are. When I sat in a biophysics course, I had difficulties following the lecturer because she used one new word after another from time to time and I even had not memorized the new word she came across she brought another new word again. When the lecture is full of too many new words, I have difficulties to follow in lecture time.

userr2684291

I don't find that surprising at all. I've never been in your situation, though.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@userr2684291 That's what high school is about, man. I bet those are the only things I'll remember from high school 20 years from now.

userr2684291

Yeah, also that crush...

Captain Bohemian

I am hungry now. I last night ate the noodles which made me hunger-free for long last time but I don't know why this time I get hungry so soon.

userr2684291

18:47

Haha.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CaptainBohemian Your body was all like "NOT THIS TIME"

@userr2684291 Well, we're not mixed gender

I had crushes on numerous Bic pens though

userr2684291

Ah...

Captain Bohemian

I feel the most difficult part of learning English during my junior and senior high schools is memorizing words.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I never had difficulty learning English

Sometimes some difficulty learning how to deal with an English exam, but that's a different thing

Nastaʿlīq

Nastaʿlīq (Persian: نستعلیق‬‎, from نسخ‬ Naskh and تعلیق‬ Taʿlīq) is one of the main calligraphic hands used in writing the Persian alphabet, and traditionally the predominant style in Persian calligraphy. It was developed in Iran in the 14th and 15th centuries. It is sometimes used to write Arabic-language text (where it is known as Taʿlīq or Persian and is mainly used for titles and headings), but its use has always been more popular in the Persian, Turkic and Urdu sphere of influence. Nastaʿlīq remains very widely used in Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan and other countries for written poetry...

@userr2684291 ^ my fav Persian font, and it works so darn well with Bic

Captain Bohemian

if you major in physics or math in university, you don't need to learn many extra words to understand it, but if you major in biology orr chemistry, you need to learn probably more than double (I don't know how many, but I think double is never too many) the number of words you learnt in junior and senior high schools.

userr2684291

19:00

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Nice.

I think I've forgotten most of these letters, though.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

19:24

@userr2684291 It's OK. I've forgotten all about Slovak in return

userr2684291

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Slovak? It's Slovene.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@userr2684291 Well I would have known that if I hadn't forgotten all about Slovakene

Slovene

Ugh

I should remember you by Actoverco

Jun 1 '18 at 21:59, by userr2684291

It's Slovenia, get it right.

New new year's resolution: Get userr's nationality right

This is awkward.

Slowly melts away

userr2684291

19:42

Haha. I knew I'd made the same joke before.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I learned how to read the Arabic script and was about to start learning the language, but I guess I stopped going to the lessons.

Also it was a 40 minute ride to the... mosque.

It didn't appeal to me when I was a kid. I had games to play.

The prize for learning the language was a trip to Mecca. Again, not something a kid... of my persuasion, lol, had ever thought about.

I know there normally isn't a ... prize for learning a language, but we're not really exposed to Arabic here, and that course was intended for Muslims.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I'm from Croatia, by the way. We speak Croatian here.

Jasper

21:17

@ColleenV Smart people are also more likely to become crazy.

@CaptainBohemian If you are referring to technical words, nobody knows what they mean. I don't think you are referring to everyday words.

I just realised that the people I talk to most in this room, @ColleenV and @CowperKettle and @CaptainBohemian, all start with C.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I dunno who I talk to most often. Ly.

But probably @Cowp. He's so handy

And so always-reading-weird-news-and-articles

@userr2684291 I'll just call you Captain Europe

And your Avenger status has no bearing on it

Anonymous

21:52

I admire your devotion to the adverbial -ly suffix.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@snailboat Bigly devoted

Anonymous

22:17

There's another -ly too, as in scholarly. Sometimes people even put both of them together, but I don't think anyone's terribly happy about doing so: scholarlily seems kind of iffy, don't you think?

Anonymous

It doesn't really seem like that's a thing you can do with words.

Anonymous

But you can probably do it in jocular fashion, like you did with bigly :-)

Anonymous

Scholarlily sounds like a flower.

Anonymous

So some people have just used a single -ly instead of -lily. That Shakespeare guy did it, for example.

Anonymous

I don't think most speakers today are terribly comfortable with that either, though.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

22:22

@snailboat I love Scholar Lilies.

@snailboat Oh no, I have become too predictable

Pressing the brain reset button gnarlily

Anonymous

22:45

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Gnarlilily!

Anonymous

Hope that wasn't too sillillilly of me.

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Jasper

23:03

@snailboat I did not even realise that scholarly is not an adverb but an adjective until you mentioned it.

@userr2684291 I have a friend of Bosnian ethnicity, so I know about the Bosniak Serb Croat division in Bosnia.

Anonymous

23:36

@Jasper Well, it usually isn't an adverb. Some people might think it sounds weird, but the adverb scholarly is at least attested and was used historically, though perhaps not very often.

Anonymous

But if you check most larger dictionaries you should find an entry for it as an adverb.

Anonymous

We might be able to think of scholarly as a haplogical form of scholarlily.

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Catija

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I haven't a clue. :/

Anonymous

And sillillilly? Why, that's downright haplillogical.

Catija

Heya @snailboat :D

Anonymous

23:39

Hello! :-)

Catija

How've you been?

CowperKettle

@snailboat haplillogical? You had another weird dream with the professor?

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