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Man_From_India

01:18

@snailplane good morning. Just woke up. Already I went to bed when you replied. So couldn't response. Will re-read your explanation.

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CowperKettle

05:01

Personally, I would say 'assay for antibodies against cetuximab' or 'assay for anti-cetuximab antibodies'. An assay, in essence, is basically a trial. — xusr 8 hours ago

Is it really so? Should I use "for" with assay? "Assay for antibodies against cetuximab." I wrote "of" in my translation - because my document describes the assay process and its results. Basically, the process of measuring the level of the antibodies in serum, and its results.

Aayvu.com

05:19

in an email Can I write " they have or Had discussed about our project yesterday" ?

CowperKettle

@Aayvu.com Neither.

"They discussed our project yesterday."

Leave out "about" too

Aayvu.com

05:38

Thank you

Aayvu.com

06:34

I am requesting by email "Kindly consider my paper abstract to participate." is it correct sentence?

@CowperKettle Thank you

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new_user

08:47

Hello people, can a native English speaker help me out with one word (just one, I promise) that I don’t get in a formal speech :

The word sounds like “pearls” without the “l” (although the “p” might be a “h” or a “k”, can’t tell for sure).
Here is my transcript of the passage around it :
“Such monumental things as this : the epiclesis was omitted, the <word here> of the faithful was omitted”
This is at around 7:54 in a Youtube video, the link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lvMrkbf0Ys#7m54s

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SmokeDetector

12:17

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Is it common to say "I have a complaint about my order."? by anynymous on ell.SE

Anonymous

12:30

@SmokeDetector Yikes.

Anonymous

@new_user The Prayers of the Faithful before the Offertory were omitted.

Anonymous

@CowperKettle It seems like for is the right word.

new_user

@snailplane "prayers" ? I thought of that too, it fits with the context, but I find it hard to believe given the sound I hear

Anonymous

@new_user That was just the word it sounded like when I listened.

new_user

Anonymous

12:37

To me it sounds fairly clear.

new_user

I never heard "prayer" pronounced like this before

Anonymous

Sounds normal enough to me.

Anonymous

Something like /prerz/.

new_user

The vowel I hear is as in "pearl", not "cares"

Anonymous

You're mishearing it.

new_user

12:44

ok, if you say so

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Araucaria

14:50

A: Is it common to vocalize syllabic L, but use dark L as a coda consonant after unreduced vowels?

Question 1 Here is the relevant excerpt from Gimson's Pronunciation of English (Eighth edition. p. 219) in terms of what happens in General British: So, in British English, at least, it's common for people who normally use dark [ɫ] in syllable codas to use a vocalised /l/, [ʊ], for word final ...

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Man_From_India

16:07

@snailplane you remember that we were discussing about "worn out"? we agreed that it is adjectival, and not verbal. Hence, it is not a Participle Adjective. We were thinking that it must be a Compound adjective in that case. But CaGEL didn't include it as a compound adjective. So I started reading Bas Aarts Handbook of English Linguistics. I have not read much, because it is not a very easy read for me. But on page 485, I came to know that a compound is formed from more than one lexemes.

But in case of "worn out", the word "worn" is not a lexeme. It is just an inflectional form of lexeme - "wear".

So if "worn out" is not a compound adjective, then what is it?

@Araucaria you can help us here too.

Sorry, modification: compounds are formed from the base form of lexeme.

Araucaria

16:32

@Man_From_India That's not quite right there. worn IS a lexeme. It is the same lexeme as wear! :)

@Man_From_India Oh, I hadn't read that bit. I think that's a bit of a broad generalisation. Consider Sales department etc ...

Swimming costume. Not really sure what they're talking about in HEL ...

Man_From_India

In there it is written a lot of things about that topic. But for me it is not an easy read. It needs a lot of time to digest all these from there :-)

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CowperKettle

17:55

@snailplane So I can write "The assay for anti-cirtumab binding antibodies was performed using validated ELISA"?

This sounds odd to me.

The sentence screams for of.

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Anonymous

18:56

@Man_From_India I don't follow. Participial adjectives are adjectives derived from participial verb forms.

Anonymous

I think the definition gets a little more complicated when you include phrasal verbs, because the particle compounds with the verb to form a compound adjective, but it's still essentially a participial adjective.

Anonymous

@CowperKettle Really? I dunno. I was looking at results on Google Scholar and for seemed to be used.

Anonymous

I'm not especially familiar with the field, though.

Anonymous

I know that assay is often modified attributively: The anti-cirtumab binding antibody assay was performed . . .

CowperKettle

19:24

Thank you!

I will use for

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