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00:42
@ColleenV honestly I believe that these sort of articles are good, but they actually are of no use when you sit down to write. No suggestion/advices actually helps improve writing.
@Man_From_India I agree - practice improves writing, but sometimes you need a little push to start writing about something.
00:58
@ColleenV nods
 
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05:53
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Q: "I told you DON´T go" vs. "I told you NOT TO go"

claudio sepulveda I told you don't go to see that movie because it was not good. I told you not to go to see that movie because it was not good. Can both be used? If the answer is yes, how do I know when to use "don't", or "not to"?

Further proof that people don't vote up detailed answers.
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Q: Would the sentence be okay without the 'it'?

lekon chekon I still can't get it out of mind, how she reacted to it all the other day. I still can't get out of mind how she reacted to it all the other day. Are both these sentences grammatically correct? Is inserting the it in the sentence necessary?

This 'it-cleft' @Snail?
06:26
+0.7 :) But a) These inverted irrealis clauses can follow the main clause; b) it is not all conditionals but only irrealis conditionals which cannot be expressed with have; and c) the past form were, unlike should, marks an irrealis conditional, so your very last example, Were you to arrive early, give a ring won't work. — StoneyB Mar 1 '14 at 14:29
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0
Q: Could I come over on "a Saturday" sometime?

Shannak Use a with the names of days of the week when not referring to any particular day. Education First What does "not referring to any particular day" mean? the website provide the following example: Could I come over on a Saturday sometime? Doesn't the above statement mean the **next Sat...

> Use a with the names of days of the week when not referring to any particular day. Education First
Misleading! I daresay it's misleading!
For example, is a title such as "Posy-rings: A Friday Evening Descourse at the Royal Institutioon of Great Britain, March 25, 1892" not referring to any particular day?
Hmm... not a very good example, but you should get the idea.
> It's 10:00 in the morning on a Friday, and he has a football game that night.
Now, that's a better example.
It of course is a particular Friday.
It's just not a definite Friday.
07:16
@DamkerngT. This sounds like a stupid site.
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Q: What is the part of speech of quantifiers? Adjective or determiner?

Shannak Quantifiers are adjectives and adjectival phrases that give approximate or specific answers to the questions "How much?" and "How many?" Education First We use the quantifiers much, many, a lot of, lots of to talk about quantities, amounts and degree. We can use them with a noun (as a ...

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@M.A.R. nods -- But it's one of the sites that makes those standardized tests!
Anyway, I made a comment:
To be honest, "use a with the names of days of the week when not referring to any particular day" is a bit misleading, in my humble opinion. The problem is twofold. First, it confuses particular with indefinite. Obviously, a something can be and usually is a particular instance of that something, it's just that it's indefinite. A speaker who says I was born on a Thursday or It's 10:00 in the morning on a Friday, and he has a football game that night surely is thinking of a specific day. Second, it suggests that They were married on Friday is incorrect, while it's perfectly fine. — Damkerng T. 44 secs ago
Wall of text AAAAAA
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Q: How does the writer support the topic?

Aymen FDLhow to answer a question like this : How does the writer support the topic? for example by evaluating the main points or by giving support from another writer etc.. here is an extract from the article : The most productive crops, such as sugar cane, growing in optimum conditions, can convert ...

Questions today are weird. O.O
Oh, no! What a shame ! (Note the space before the exclamation point.)
Argh
WHAT A SHAME
I wanna punch a wall
@M.A.R. I'm not sure, but it sounds like a homework question.
07:30
@DamkerngT. For which we do not have a policy
Yay for ELL
This Education First site sounds bad. I won't recommend it to any learner. :( — M.A.R. 14 mins ago
I end up adding Smileys to every comment now
It might be a little too strong.
But I don't know much about that site.
@DamkerngT. Well, it has caused confusion at least twice, and it's a shame, so.
I guess we can confidently say that shames are bad @Dam.
@CowperKettle Wow, GT translated that nicely
Sawasdee Khrap!
It is indeed really improving with user contributions
@M.A.R. I know - the neural network is improving rapidly
@CowperKettle Sawasdee khun kha something something khrap
08:15
> - Learning about the cultural and information project, the photographer decided to support the idea and show the citizens of our region such Thailand, how he sees it. His every shot - a true masterpiece, which depicts life in the style of "tayness" - so to denote Thai culture and the Thai way of life. Lifestyle of the original and harmonious people, Thais revere the love, mercy, kindness, spiritual and physical balance - say in the gallery.
Basically 100% understandable and 80% correct
@CowperKettle I always associated those hats with ninjas. I wonder if @Dam has one
(^_^)
He has hundreds of tabs, why not hundreds of hats?
@CowperKettle Impostor, you're not Dam
Heh, 'juicy pictures from the lifes of Thai'
2017 votes on ELL
08:56
They are all there but she, (A)/ should go and call her as soon as possible (B)/ because she has to preside over the meeting (C)/ No error (D).
What is wrong?
Everything seems wrong with that sentence
I agree.
But answer says A
What could be reason in Indian English?
Anonymous
09:19
@user62015 There is a comma between the subject and the following predicate. In most cases, you should not put a comma there.
Anonymous
I bet they want you to remove the comma from (A).
Thans.
Thanks.
Anonymous
@M.A.R. I don't think it is, although it's a use of dummy it, just like an it-cleft.
@snailplane Morning
Or night
One of those.
I should edit the tags then
Anonymous
It's definitely an interesting question.
Anonymous
09:21
In this case, an answer might help us figure out the best tags to use.
Anonymous
In an it-cleft, you have a relationship between an unclefted sentence:
Anonymous
> Alice wrote the book.
Anonymous
And a "clefted" version, meaning one that is split in two. In this example, the parts would be Alice and wrote a book:
Anonymous
> It is/was [Alice] that/who [wrote the book].
Anonymous
The it-cleft characteristically has it as subject, with a copula as a verb (is or was). The clefted subject and clefted predicate together make up a predicative complement (or "subject complement"), with the clefted predicate as a relative clause modifying the clefted subject.
Anonymous
09:27
So it's a fairly specific form. It's useful to talk about because we can find a correspondence between the two sentences. "Clefting" is an imaginary operation which relates the two to one another.
10:15
I am searching for a suitable term:
I want to convey : "your school's celebrations would be no less good than ours"
Any word to replace that?
11:09
@Abcd There is no single word to replace that.
@M.A.R. Any better term?
This is too cliche
Nah, I don't think it's cliched.
You can replace it with ''not much better''
okay
but I mean great
I mean that "your school's celebrations would surely have been as great as mine"
Those two sentences don't mean the same thing
No, it's a part of a letter in which earlier I had explained that my school's celebrations were great @M.A.R.
11:14
When you say ''not much better'', you look at the empty part of the glass, while ''as great as ours'' is being optimistic and looking at the full part.
Okay.
Any other term? for as great as ours?
You can't replace a phrase eloquently with a 'term'. You need another phrase
hmm
I meant a phrase
Any other phrase?
Unless you want to find another synonym for 'great', choose one of the many out there, there's nothing to be changed about it
I thought phrase= term
11:17
@Abcd No, 'term' is a word, phrase is a group of words that don't contain as much meaning as a whole sentence
okay. Thanks
You can choose fabulous, fantastic etc.
ok
11:57
@CowperKettle That hat is more typical in Vietnam. (^_^)
This would be a more typical shape of the hats over here:
But I think it's hard to tell these days, because of a wide range of the possibilities.
12:25
Can someone please read my letter?
Write a letter to the police, reporting some strange movements and sounds around your house at night.
It's really short :
pastebin.com/raw/z8Zh4wRW
Sir,
This is to acquaint you with certain peculiar noises and movements in the vicinity of my house at midnight. Often, I have seen through the balcony a man conversing loudly on the road on his mobile phone with someone and shouting at that person. At times, he merely wanders in the garden facing my house in a threatening manner with long strides. He is never seen in aught but the same black coat suit. He isn’t a member of this colony. Sometimes, his presence can be felt by the shrill sounds made when he throws stones at the electricity cable pole. He does unnatural things like lying on
12:42
I suspect that the police over there are very good at English!
@Abcd I read it.
And probably don't interact with laymen much.
Whew, this one was easy.
!!next
Because it's a letter to the police, not a writing assignment, I think it's okay, because it's quite understandable.
I can't spot anything that's obviously grammatically wrong.
But have seen is probably not my choice.
Weird seems to be out of place. (It doesn't go well with the rest of the letter.)
I wonder if colony is the normal choice over there. If it is, it's fine.
I don't know what "colony" is supposed to mean there. Is that what they call villages in India?
12:45
Oh, another thing, I'm not sure if the suspect wears a black coat or a black suit.
But I guess you mean "a black suit coat" (and he probably wear something more casual on the lower half).
(Then again, wearing a suit and rolling on the ground in a garden? That's weird.)
12:58
My train was supposed to start exactly at the time you pressed "send" button after writing your last msg here :-) but it's late by 2 minutes. @DamkerngT.
:D
Apparently, you were not in Germany. :P
@Man_From_India Oh, is the engine not working?
Do people actually say "the train is supposed to start"?
That's an interesting question.
It's passable to me, FWIW.
@Abcd "Frequents very often" strikes me as pleonastic.
@Abcd For some reason, the whole thing sounds long-winded and desperately formal.
"Quick fixing of things in the right manner" – wordy and bullshitty.
I imagine a policeman over there might like to read this kind of thing. :P
Good point. (I couldn't figure out "why", though I figured it sounds way more natural when I negated it.) But is it really a duplicate?
13:13
@DamkerngT. What what you use?
@userr2684291 I would rewrite/rearrange the first two sentences.
I think have seen sounds a little odd (to me) because the first sentence is already specific enough.
Generally, I would approach the topic in any piece of writing from general/background to specific/foreground.
Have seen makes me think of a background/general idea.
So it's kind of a bit strange. But maybe that's just me.
So, this is not really about grammar. Grammatically, it should be fine.
@DamkerngT. What tense would you use?
It's not that mechanical.
I think if I want to keep have seen, I'd probably strip at midnight, or maybe more, out of the first sentence.
That would increase coherence.
Oh, I see what you mean: you don't wanna go from specific "at midnight" to general "have seen".
Yes, exactly!
13:23
I don't think that's the problem with this letter. If the events described below all happen at midnight, I'd leave those kind of specifics at the beginning. I'd also include the address of the house.
I think that's how most reports begin.
That's fair. It's kinda about stylistic choices, I think.
@userr2684291 "scheduled to start" would be a better phrase in my opinion. The engine is working fine.
13:43
@Man_From_India I'd say "scheduled to leave (the station)".
13:56
@Man_From_India It's in the OED, so you're right.
1898 F. Montgomery Tony 13: "Mother! do just get in with me for a few minutes till the train starts."
 
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16:39
hi @Araucaria
how are you doing?
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Q: "He likes writing poems" or "He likes to write poems"

ShannakI think both of the following are grammatically correct, aren't they? He likes writing poems. He likes to write poems. but which form is more common in daily conversation use? like + ing or like + to infinite ?

The only difference I recall is between "He tries writing poems / to write poems"
Is there any other instances where the choice between progressive and to-form changes the meaning?
16:58
@CowperKettle What is the difference here?
@Man_From_India it's 'try something' vs. 'trying (and failing maybe) to do something'
1. He stopped to eat the banana. 2. He stopped eating banana. They both are different.
Oh, that's different
@Man_From_India Yes (0:
because of the the, I guess
@CowperKettle Oh no, not that I mean. In #1 he stopped and started eating banana. In #2 he was eating banana, and now he stopped the action.
But what is the difference between He tries writing poems vs He tries to write the poem?
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A: "as" as a conjunction or preposition

Man_From_India 1: He doesn't play half as well as his sister does. 2: He doesn't play half as well as his sister. In both the sentences the first as is an adverb, and the second as is a preposition. A preposition can take a Noun Phrase (NP), or a clause or any other grammatical structure as its comp...

17:08
@Man_From_India I think you mean the second one should be He tries to write poems. There's a difference between the two you have but not between the first one and this one.
He tries to write the poem means that he's attempting to write a specific poem.
@Catija Sorry for the confusion, due to my typing.
I really wanted to mean : He tries writing poems / to write poems
As far as I'm aware, there's not really a difference.
@Catija I also think so.
BTW how is Big Ben doing? :-)
Doing well. His school said that he was crawling yesterday. I've not seen this personally but it's a bit scary :D
At home he doesn't crawl?
Does he play with your hippo? :D
17:13
Not yet. It was the first report of it we've had, though. He definitely will scoot around on his belly but he doesn't get up on his hands and knees to actually crawl.
Only when I let him. He tries to eat him, and since I try to avoid washing my hippo to help with its longevity (it can't be replaced) I only give it to him on special occasions, like when I update my profile picture.
ow how sweet
@Catija haha. is it ur childhood toy?
No, it's just a favorite toy that I've had for about a decade. He's actually the second one I've had - I lost the first one in Dublin back in... 2004 or so. I searched for a year and managed to replace that one but I've looked since and haven't seen any others.
I think u r very fond of that hippo. And when u said it can't be replaced, i thought there must something special about it, apart from its apparent sweetness.
I am. He's traveled the world with my husband and I. We took him on our first trip overseas together and we have photos of him from all over Germany and France.
Be it in hippos or sapiens, sweetness is rare.
@Catija yay. and here it goes. now i see the reason :-)
17:20
I'm off now. Have a lovely remainder of your day!
Good night. I am off too.
17:50
Hey @Cat
@Man_From_India sweetness is unhealthy
@userr2684291 ANy alternative to that?
@userr2684291 Yeah I know it's pleonastic. That's exactly what I thought while typing it. Any alternative to that as well?
@DamkerngT. Alternative to weird?
@DamkerngT. Haha. I know it is. Couldn't think of anything else to add to the letter :(
@DamkerngT. Why?
@Abcd Strange or odd, I suppose.
Okay.
@Abcd I don't know, but if there's someone who wants to write this kind of letter to the police, it's a hint that some policemen expect it.
Either that, or the sender/reporter is not realistic.
@DamkerngT. I didn't understand you again
17:59
\o @Dam
@Abcd Well, you want to write a letter to the police to report abnormal activities, right?
@DamkerngT. Yes
@M.A.R. o/
Write a letter to the police, reporting some strange movements and sounds around your house at night
@Abcd Now, because your tone is not something I'd expect to see in a letter to the police by an average person, there must be an uncommon reason behind it.
18:00
@DamkerngT. I tried being formal
So, two immediate reasons came to mind.
It's either a) you wrote it at this level of formality because you know the police expect it.
Or b) you wrote it at this level of formality because you guess it's appropriate, but you don't know the fact and might've guessed wrong.
@DamkerngT. Option b.
@DamkerngT. any way to make it less formal.
@Abcd Hmm... maybe just write normally.
Be polite, but not overly formal.
ok
Hmm, @Dam what can I call these 'levels' in a new question I ask? Standard -> non-standard -> ungrammatical
18:05
@M.A.R. I think it's just levels of formality.
@DamkerngT. I tried writing again but couldn't be less formal.
@DamkerngT. Formality? O.o
This is a bit formal, but not too formal. Something I'd expect from a well-educated native speaker.
@DamkerngT. WHat would you expect from a well educated native speaker- bit formal or too formal
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Q: Why is it incorrect to say "I have an available room"

RenaI have a guesthouse and I have a sign saying "available room". Someone told me better to say "room available" Why is this?

Can I tag this as [headlinese]?
18:09
@Abcd An appropriate level of formality, I suppose.
Okay
Which means it would be related to the context, the matter in the letter, and so on.
This is almost as formal as yours (but the diction is much more natural), but the matter is more serious.
And yet it includes simple constructions such as "How long can ...?"
"... demands that ..." (demand might not be the best choice in your letter, BTW)
@Dam I don't think ungrammatical, non-standard and standard levels are called 'levels of formality'
@M.A.R. It's a bit hard for me to group ungrammatical with non-standard.
@M.A.R. Probably
@DamkerngT. Well, dunno, I wanna write a post to clear up how some things are wrong, and how not everything wrong is ungrammatical
18:19
@M.A.R. A-ha!
Although I wonder if I should explain it using levels like semantics, context etc. or levels like ungrammatical, non-standard, standard etc.
@Abcd This letter is similar to yours. Though they're not identical, you might find it useful. publicintelligence.net/…
thanks
@M.A.R. Hmm... I don't think they're "levels". They're more like different attributes.
@DamkerngT. Which group? The former or the latter?
The only thing that stumps me is what to call them
We call them 'levels of language' or something like that in Persian
18:23
I still think grammatical/ungrammatical is not in the same axis of standard/non-standard.
@M.A.R. Ahh... that makes me think of "strata".
But again, Persian linguistics is more or less English linguistics in 1950. O.O
!!wiki/stratum (linguistics)
In linguistics, a stratum (Latin for "layer") or strate is a language that influences, or is influenced by another through contact. A substratum or substrate is a language which has lower power or prestige than another, while a superstratum or superstrate is the language that has higher power or prestige. Both substratum and superstratum languages influence each other, but in different ways. An adstratum or adstrate refers to a language that is in contact with another language in a neighbor population without having identifiably higher or lower prestige. The notion of "strata" has first bee...
@DamkerngT. That's the word! \o/
18:24
Is there a single Wikipedia article on linguistics that doesn't have issues?
Hehe! I don't know the answer to that.
Artificial neural network analyzes natural neural networks
Scary!
yes
I recall reading in 2010 that a human-scale AI might be possible by 2020
I think by 2020, it's still not as good as us, but it sure can do some tasks better than us.
Maybe it depends on where we draw the line. I guess to some, it'd probably be fair to say human-scale.
18:37
nods
Sonnet of the Day: 59
> If there be nothing new, but that which is
Hath been before, how are our brains beguil'd,
Which labouring for invention bear amiss
The second burthen of a former child.
> Oh that record could with a backward look,
Even of five hundred courses of the sun,
Show me your image in some antique book,
Since mind at first in character was done,
That I might see what the old world could say
To this composed wonder of your frame;
> Whether we are mended, or where better they,
Or whether revolution be the same.
Oh sure I am the wits of former days,
To subjects worse have given admiring praise.
I don't understand "Oh that record could with a backward look"
Is record here a verb?
> 5. Oh that record could with a backward look,
record = the historical record, writing.
with a backward look - i.e. delving far back into the historical record.
Ah! But then the stress falls on the last syllable, which is very odd: record
@CowperKettle It seems like a noun, I think.
and why that record, and not what record?
Does he point at some particular "record" and says "that record"?
> five hundred courses of the sun - probably six hundred years. The old English hundred was apparently 120, so five of these add up to 600.
O_O
> Since mind at first in character was done,
means "since records began"
And I thought it meant "since for the first time someone's mind was described in letters"
I recall that Keats also uses the word charactry
> When I have fears that I may cease to be
Before my pen has gleaned my teeming brain,
Before high-pilèd books, in charactery,
Hold like rich garners the full ripened grain;
When I behold, upon the night’s starred face,
Huge cloudy symbols of a high romance,
And think that I may never live to trace
Their shadows with the magic hand of chance;
> And when I feel, fair creature of an hour,
That I shall never look upon thee more,
Never have relish in the faery power
Of unreflecting love—then on the shore
Of the wide world I stand alone, and think
Till love and fame to nothingness do sink.
I memorized this in the summer of 2014
I wish StoneyB was in the room. :D
He would have gone spintronic from excitement (0:
18:48
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A: Why is it incorrect to say "I have an available room"

M.A.R.When you're making a sign, you should use headlinese, which, as the same suggests, is primarily used for newspaper article headlines. Basically, you drop copula "be", which is the 'normal' "be" you see in sentences such as "He is a good man". You also drop articles, as discussed here. When you s...

Now I wonder if I got it right
Proofread please @Dam @Cowp
@DamkerngT. I wish that every minute
Shouldn't it be I have a room available?
@DamkerngT. Well, "a room is available" conveys the same thing, no?
I was only thinking that your answer seems to suggest that I have an available room is okay, but it's probably not, IMO.
I don't see why it would be useful to wonder what the original sentence is when there's a lack of words and only one clear meaning
@DamkerngT. Wut? It's correct IMO
18:58
It sounds weird to me.
Why would it be incorrect?
And I don't have any good reasons, except for I haven't heard it.
@DamkerngT. What happened to the marginal basket?
@DamkerngT. Sure, the post-positive is more common, but that doesn't make the attributive wrong
Hmm... I don't know why, it doesn't seem to fit the marginal basket.
You mean "available" can't occur in attributive?
That would definitely be wrong
18:59
Let's find out!
> available (adj.) [not usually before noun] able to be obtained, taken, or used
K, deleted the answer for now
Okay, we've got "not usually".
So maybe it's still possible in rare cases?
Ah, one example in the entry: the best available equipment
I win
Somehow it sounds much better than I have an available room.
@DamkerngT. Because of "room"
19:01
Or I have two available pieces of equipment.
> ... (2005) showed that limiting the number of available pieces of information or even ...
This also sounds fine.
I don't know what makes it sound okay and what not.
Ahh, too many headaches. I let go of that question
It's an interesting question, I think. :D
Your former sentence, you've translated it from Croatian yourself. So I think the question boils down to why machine translation has inserted a "perfectly" out of nowhere? AFAIK, the answer to that is "because". — M.A.R. 4 mins ago
But he says "British English native".
Oh whoops
Whatever
I'm not terribly paying attention today
But anyway, my comment remains the same in the end
19:16
nods
Okay, that's enough for the night. See you later! o/
19:28
@Dam this was what I was looking for: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_discourse_grammar
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A: How long does an owl live?

M.A.R."Harry Potter and The Deathly Hollows" is the seventh Harry Potter book, which features the Battle of The Seven Potters in which Hedwig, Harry's owl, dies. The joke is funny because the punchline is unexpected; to answer a question of age with an unusual unit, books. Of course, no longer funny ...

Incidentally, I don't like this answer getting this many votes
I'll prolly post the big post I'm about to post tomorrow @Dam, so you'd be able to proofread and downvote it
Strange that the OP didn't get it.
@M.A.R. I don't really think so.
@Catija O.O you read the whole transcript?
@DamkerngT. You sure they didn't?
Oh, you mean before me posting an answer
19:36
@M.A.R. Not the entire transcript, but I see the big boxes from links and saw your question.
Ahh
dons
Why don't each of these utterances *get it right*?
> ashfjs

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> I can't knows how to correct write this sentence.

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> The little whale is eating the purple sky.

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> **A:** How does the food taste?
**B:** I love playing tennis!
@Snail what should I add to that up there ^ ?
20:03
(Couldn't find this in the dictionary)
Rita has many servants attending _____ (on?) her.
Word in brackets indicates my effort.
Just ''attending'' her
No . It's a grammar exercise @M.A.R.
@Abcd Well, so?
@Abcd Use 'to'
ok
20:28
Ravi had fractured his arm. He insisted on playing. (Join)
Ravi had fractured his arm yet he insisted on playing.
My answer^
Sounds about right
20:59
in English Language & Usage, 2 mins ago, by M.A.R.
@Mitch I know what you don't know, but I don't know how much I don't know what you don't know. I know some of the things you don't know though, but you know a lot of things that I don't know. So don't pretend to know everything you don't know or not know everything you know.
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