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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
01:02
Yes, "aren't I" is the totally folkways way of saying it
 
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SinNombre SinApellido
SinNombre SinApellido
02:38
Hello
Is this correct? ('on' or 'is') = "There are not plugins on Fragt" (Fragt is a website)
Is it "in"?
toha
toha
Hello @DamkerngT. Nice to meet you again..
It seems you are active in this room all days.
@DamkerngT. Why Mr CowperKettle always post : something like "Word of the day: wraith"
Is that something like program or regular activities or regular meeting?
SinNombre SinApellido
SinNombre SinApellido
02:59
@toha
toha
toha
03:25
@SinNombreSinApellido
?
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
04:31
@toha I post this when I come across an interesting word or phrase
Anonymous
04:43
@toha It's part of our chat room culture. We like to share words or phrases that are new or interesting, words we think other people might be interested in learning :-)
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
04:57
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skill patrol
skill patrol
o/
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
05:10
\о
Jude Niroshan
Jude Niroshan
o/
I want to start a serious email. I'm lost how to start with
This email to to inform that some mistake
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
06:04
@toha My avatar usually is always in the room, but I'm probably not. (^_^)
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
06:55
The Party of Moderate Progress Within the Bounds of the Law
The Party of Moderate Progress Within the Bounds of the Law (Czech: Strana Mírného Pokroku v Mezích Zákona) was a satirical political party founded by Jaroslav Hašek in 1911. == References... ==
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Anonymous
Wow! Sounds pretty moderate :-)
skill patrol
skill patrol
07:24
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
07:52
Word of the day: karoshi
 
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Anonymous
10:34
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Anonymous
> You need to seem to want the job, but you don't want to seem to need the job.
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Anonymous
Now that's a fun sentence, grammatically speaking :-)
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
10:48
@snailplane Meaning-wise as well!
To fight B.S. with B.S.! -- Like!
V.V.
V.V.
Hi all!
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Hi! @V.V.
V.V.
V.V.
; the Ellsworth American used to run stories every year about lobstermen who went out after a snagged line and never came up, I don't understand "snagged line". What is it?
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Heyo
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
@V.V. I'm not sure.
I guess it might be clearer if I knew those lobstermen. (^^)
V.V.
V.V.
10:53
Haha.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
The basic meaning of snag is catch or hook.
Maybe it's something used on their fishing (lobster?) boats.
To catch the lobsters.
V.V.
V.V.
I thought it was a fishing rod but then read they catch with baskets.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Let's see if we can find out how they catch lobsters on the web.
Ah, they use baskets indeed.
I wonder if they call the ropes between the boat and the baskets "snagged lines".
Or maybe snagged line is a safety line securing lobstermen on board. But I'm guessing.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
They went out after a snagged line.
So mightn't it be something in the water?
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
@M.A.R. Ah, I think you're right!
> A lobsterman throws fishing rope onto a pile in Rockland, Maine, on March 27. Come Sunday, a new federal regulation outlaws the use of floating rope that connects millions of lobster traps on the ocean bottom and sometimes entangles endangered North Atlantic right whales.
> nbcnews.com/id/30045481/ns/us_news-environment/t/…
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
11:00
Where are these lobstermen lobstering?
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
I think lobsters live up-north.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@DamkerngT. this makes sense
So some lobstermen went lobstering in the bottom, but couldn't,t come up because of that big net.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
nods
V.V.
V.V.
Tell me, this was just about Maine
So there's a line of baskets in the sea?
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
I guess yes, but I'm not 100% sure.
V.V.
V.V.
11:08
Brilliant! Line is that rope then.
But they die because of a high tide.
Thank you very much.
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: 'Since' or 'As a result' by Tony Smith on ell.SE
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
^ spam
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
With bad English, even.
toha
toha
@DamkerngT. Of Course..
@all : I see now..
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
11:45
Ah, looks like it's bad timing again.
Why do I seem to always post my answers at the wrong time?!
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@DamkerngT. Spam almost always is with bad English
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
> Taste our new SPAM: now with good English
Aloha!
PauloHDSousa
PauloHDSousa
12:09
Alohha
Noah
Noah
Alohha!
PauloHDSousa
PauloHDSousa
Do you play LOL?
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
12:21
Hey @Cowp
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
Did the word sucks mean the same in 1821?
> I am very sorry for it, though I think he took the wrong line as a poet, and was spoilt by Cockneyfying, and Suburbing, and versifying Tooke’s Pantheon and Lempriere’s Dictionary.–I know by experience that a savage review is Hemlock to a **sucking author**—and the one on me (which produced the English bards &c.) knocked me down—but I got up again.
pbs.org/newshour/updates/column-poet-john-keats-met-early-end
"a sucking author"
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Interesting
I thought it was something very recent
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
MAR saves the day
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
My cape looks colorful
Hey, it is NOT 's'. It stands for 'hope', dammit
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
12:40
> THE Daily Mail in an alternate universe where Hitler won the war is absolutely identical, it has been confirmed.

Scientists created a window into another dimension to view the newspaper, in the hope of gaining insight into how history had developed differently, but instead it was just the Daily Mail.

Professor Helen Archer said: “At first we were appalled by the nightmarish world of deep-seated paranoia, hatred of everyone and unwavering faith in war as the solution to everything, then we realised how familiar it seemed.
thedailymash.co.uk/news/media/…
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@CowperKettle Haha nice
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
> “One researcher believed he’d detected a sinister undercurrent of Aryan supremacy in the depiction of the Kardashians, but it turned out he’d been looking at the one from our universe by mistake.

“We’re working on a new theory which posits that the single constant in an infinity of parallel universes is that the Daily Mail is just as vile in all of them.”
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M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Bah, @Snail we have an [understanding] tag.
 
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user8469759
user8469759
14:12
Hi guys
It's "lunatic" a word that can be used to describe mood swings?
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
@user8469759 I'd say no.
The two words may have somewhat overlapping meanings, but they're not quite the same, IMO.
user8469759
user8469759
out of curiosity
what's the etimology of that word?
(I'm not sure I wrote etimology correctly)
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Etymology?
Of which word?
Lunatic is related to lunar.
Noah
Noah
@user8469759 No, lunatic is different. You can however use "moody", "touchy", "sensitive" or "temperamental".
user8469759
user8469759
@DamkerngT. of Lunar
yeah ok, but why does it mean "crazy"?
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
14:21
You know what lunar means, right?
Well, it's association people in the past made.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@user8469759 Would you call that person crazy?
Noah
Noah
Calling someone "lunatic" can be offensive. It literally means "a person who is mentally ill."
Just like "retarded".
user8469759
user8469759
Is it really?
I'm surprised
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Hmm... between retarded and lunatic, I think it's much easier to get away with using lunatic. But what do I know?
Araucaria
Araucaria
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A: Which is grammatically correct: "There is tea and juice" or "There are tea and juice"?

AraucariaThe following is an answer post by the venerable F.E., originally posted in relation to this question here. You should trust your ear. :) This topic comes up a lot. Your question involves an existential construction. It is safest (imo) to consider that the dummy pronoun "there" to be the gra...

M.A.R.
M.A.R.
14:23
@user8469759 Yes
Araucaria
Araucaria
@M.A.R. , everyone o/
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
\o
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
@Araucaria Your wiki-answer is pretty long! (^_^)
To be honest, I think the question fits ELL better.
Araucaria
Araucaria
14:46
@DamkerngT. Yes, but F.E's answer is so good people deserve to read it!
(got 20 upvotes and a bounty on the original Q ...)
userr2684291
userr2684291
15:23
youtu.be/zU_FXnSjBLY?t=21s "slaughtered with ..."? Is it "scythes"?
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
16:32
wooordhunt.ru/word/paling
same phono transcripts but different sounds
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Interesting.
Different accents, perhaps.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
16:48
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Q: Distinguishing Clauses

hzl123 It was 1994, and when her baby daughter would fall asleep, Rowling would stroll her to a cafe that was close to her home. In this sentence, what kind of clause is the clause "when her baby daughter would fall asleep"?

sentence-construction clauses adverbial-clauses
The sentence made me curious. Who wrote it?
The use of two woulds is somewhat interesting to me.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
WOTD: Whodunit
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nytimes.com/2017/02/22/world/asia/…
user62015
user62015
He had lost a ring in the sand and (a)/ I helped him search for it, (b)/ but it was a like a look for a needle in a haystack. (c)/ No error. (d)
What is wrong with this?
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
It was a like?
user62015
user62015
I thin option b and c both have errors
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
I find a look somewhat odd, too.
@user62015 What part of (b) do you think is incorrect?
user62015
user62015
16:57
I think, we should omit for after search and as you have said.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
@user62015 Ah, but I didn't say that!
user62015
user62015
Okay.
I think that.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Though you find something, you search for something.
user62015
user62015
So is it fine?
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
... but it was like looking for a needle in a haystack would be an idiomatic way to write it.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
16:59
@user62015 ''search for something'' is more common than ''search something'' I'd ready to bet
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
@user62015 Yes, search for is fine.
user62015
user62015
Okay.
Thanks.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@DamkerngT. Hah, you're looking for idiomatic ways to say things in FLAWLESS books?
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
On the other hand, using search something when that something is what you want to search for is incorrect.
@M.A.R. LOL
BTW, this is something:
extratv.com/2017/02/22/…
I haven't watched this show, but it seems to be very popular in the US.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@DamkerngT. A good example of why apostrophes and capitalization is important (Look at the URL)
user62015
user62015
17:10
CMIE estimates that the cost of (a)/ printing transporting and distributing (b)/ new note was an additional Rs 16,800 crore.(c)/ No error (d)
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
I think new note needs to be in the plural.
(BTW, I'm multitasking, so don't be surprised if it takes me a while to read your questions.)
user62015
user62015
Okay.
I can understand that.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
A-ha! Looks like Gluster could be my solution!
user62015
user62015
Yes
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
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Q: "My computer isn't working" or "My computer doesn't work"

ShannakMy friend is working as computer engineer, I phoned him and ask him the following: My computer isn't working, Could you repair it? My computer doesn't work, Could you repair it? Which one is more common in this context? present simple or present contentious?

present-tense
Same old, same old
We should have a canned comment about ''why the hell do you plan to choose between these options?''
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
17:22
It's a dupe, I'm sure!
user62015
user62015
17:37
No sooner (a)/ I had started for college (b)/ than it began to rain.(c)/ No error (d)
Could you please tell me why we have to use had I started for college
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
@user62015 It's just a typical pattern in English.
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A: Verb before noun

Damkerng T.It's true that in most English clauses, the subject comes before the verb. Then again, inversion is quite common. The two main types of inversion in English are subject-verb inversion (Into the room will come a unicorn--an example on the Wikipedia page), and subject-auxiliary inversion (also know...

user62015
user62015
Thanks. I will read.
Thank you so much.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
But I don't think I see No sooner had I ... than ... much lately. It sounds a bit old, IMO.
@user62015 You're welcome!
user62015
user62015
Exams are exams. ahahha old and new does not matter
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
:D
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
17:49
@DamkerngT. No sooner had I heard ''No sooner had I'' than Shakespearean era.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
LOL
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
18:21
I wonder why Arrowfar was blocked for 10 years
user62015
user62015
The later part of Gandhi’s life (a)/ till he was assassinated (b)/ was in considerable measure the life of the nation as well. (c)/No error (d) (STENO - 2014)
A. The later part of Gandhi’s life B. till he was assassinated
C. was in considerable measure the life of the nation as well. D. No error
Answer: Option A
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Email in answer, link at end of answer: Using the word "the" with a university name by knowcliff on ell.SE
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@SmokeDetector NAA
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
@CowperKettle Huh?!
Since when?
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
18:36
@DamkerngT. He contacted me awhile on Facebook and said that he was blocked
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
@user62015 Hmm... I don't think (a) is really wrong.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
Then he unfriended me. Then I said I did not care, and he befriended me. Then I was too over-worked with translation and did not reply to his messages, and he unfriended me.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
nods
user62015
user62015
Thanks.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@CowperKettle :(
V.V.
V.V.
18:58
@DamkerngT. since January, 25
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Oh! Just a couple days after that incident. Hmm...
Maybe it's just coincidental. I don't know.
V.V.
V.V.
Read an acc.
Serious?
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
I don't know, but he must've done something serious enough.
V.V.
V.V.
ten netwide
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
C'est la vie
V.V.
V.V.
19:06
A bon.
@user62015 how was it?
user62015
user62015
hI
Hi
V.V.
V.V.
Hi!
Was it a written test?
user62015
user62015
Yes but multiple choices
 
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M.A.R.
M.A.R.
22:17
@CowperKettle usually when that happens there's a very good reason though. Mods can't suspend more than one year and only SE employees can
Anonymous
22:29
Let's not discuss that topic.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
K
What did you trash? Sensitive info?
Anonymous
No.
Anonymous
Nothing sensitive.
Anonymous
Just not constructive.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Ahh
I didn't see it. I would've moved it myself
Or maybe I did and wasn't paying attention
How're you doing this almost fine day?

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