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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
04:30
@userr2684291 thank you. I felt I was using the wrong word
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
05:58
Converters (industry)
Converting companies are companies that specialize in combining raw materials such as polyesters, adhesives, silicone, tapes, foams, plastics, felts, rubbers, liners and metals, as well as other materials, to create new products. Materials such as paper, plastic film, foil and cloth often are produced in long, continuous sheets that are rolled up for more convenient handling and transportation. These rolls of material vary significantly in size and weight — ranging from 2–203 inches (5–516 cm) wide and weighing as much as several tons. The converting industry takes these continuous rolls of thin...
I used to translate this as "processor".
> a plastic processing company
But turns out "coverter" is a word in use
 
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M.A.R.
M.A.R.
07:04
Morning
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
07:20
gninroM
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
07:57
@CowperKettle grin roMe
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
08:56
All are welcome to use them. (or "Everyone is welcome to use them"? or "Everybody"?)
are these three options equal in meaning?
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
09:18
@CowperKettle I guess
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
09:28
Whole half a day without orders
I'm in heaven
I even started trying to translate another Ukrainian song
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Without orders there's no money
PANIC
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
I have money enough to survive 3 months
I should lend a room or two
Enroll in a Biochemistry course in a University and lend a couple of rooms to survive
>
The steppe is waving far and wide
Nor trees nor rocks to hold her
To windy fields a Cossack's bride
Went out to mourn her soldier
Повіяв вітер степовий - пісня Січових Стрільців
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Now I'll try the second stanza
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
10:02
> Oh, he was young and he was fair,
To flourish Nature wrought him,
But fell like leaves fall through the air
Made cold by breath of autumn.
Not good.
Too fancy
 
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Anonymous
11:53
Good morning! :-)
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
Good morning!
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
I need someone to downvote me thrice ASAP to get to 4242 rep
@snailplane Morning
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
@M.A.R. you need someone to pull the plug so that you have some quality time offline (0:
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
12:08
@CowperKettle Nah, wouldn't make a difference
JackNavaRow
JackNavaRow
good morning
userr2684291
userr2684291
12:59
@JackNavaRow Morning.
JackNavaRow
JackNavaRow
13:17
where are you from @userr2684291
userr2684291
userr2684291
@JackNavaRow كرواتيا
JackNavaRow
JackNavaRow
@userr2684291 I don't understand this
userr2684291
userr2684291
@JackNavaRow I'm from Croatia, in Europe.
JackNavaRow
JackNavaRow
oki this way I understand
userr2684291
userr2684291
@JackNavaRow What about you?
JackNavaRow
JackNavaRow
13:27
Nothing my friend , Im trying to improve my english
userr2684291
userr2684291
14:04
@JackNavaRow "What about you?" is a way of asking the same question I answered. In this case, it means "And you, where are you from?".
JackNavaRow
JackNavaRow
thanks!!!, I'm From Venezuela but I living in Chile
userr2684291
userr2684291
I see.
JackNavaRow
JackNavaRow
:p
what is the oficial language of croatia
I like the Flag of Croatia, this is very different
it is very different
userr2684291
userr2684291
14:29
@JackNavaRow Croatian.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
And of Russia, Russian
userr2684291
userr2684291
...
JackNavaRow
JackNavaRow
14:47
¬¬
and Costa Rica, Costa Rician
userr2684291
userr2684291
@JackNavaRow No, it's Spanish there, isn't it?
JackNavaRow
JackNavaRow
Its a Joke
es Spanisj
spanish
userr2684291
userr2684291
I've just realized "snailplane" might be a pun on "sailplane"; the same with "snailboat" and "sailboat". I wonder if that's how snailplane came up with it.
Man_From_India
Man_From_India
15:32
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Q: Just like (how)

JUNCINATORIs the word 'how' appropriately used in the sentence below? You do not have some of his abilities, just like HOW not everyone has the strengths you do. Or should I leave out the 'how'? ... just like not everyone has the strength you do. If 'how' means 'the way that' in constructions ...

word-usage meaning-in-context
In this particular sentence, this use of how is optional, and dropping it doesn't have any effect on the semantics of this sentence. — Man_From_India 1 min ago
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
15:49
\o @Man
Man_From_India
Man_From_India
Yo @M.A.R.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Being a non-native speaker it's hard to comment on something like this. But if it's me I would use the version without how here. Though I might use the other version as well. There is a very slight difference in meaning though, but here in this case the difference has hardly any effect. They both basically mean the same thing. — Man_From_India 8 mins ago
Sounds about right
Man_From_India
Man_From_India
Thanks.
 
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Man_From_India
Man_From_India
16:54
How is this sentence?
> Dreams must be like what don't let you sleep.
Catija
Catija
Not great. What are you trying to say?
V.V.
V.V.
17:13
Good evening all.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
\o
@Catija That 'dreams must be like what don't let you sleep'
Catija
Catija
@M.A.R. -_- Are you 18 yet... so I can smack you without it being child abuse?
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
I haven't checked
Prolly am
Catija
Catija
You don't know how old you are?
V.V.
V.V.
"Like what "...
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
17:17
@Catija It's hard keeping track of numbers
Catija
Catija
@M.A.R. I'll give you a number... 6... Ben will be 6 months on Saturday! EEEEEK! Can you believe it?
3
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
6 months!
He actually looks like a 3-year-old
That avatar makes him look old
Also WTH, just get your star
Catija
Catija
That's not even a recent photo... I have to update it but I haven't taken a pic of him with Hippo in a while.
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
18:42
@Catija Congratulations!
Catija
Catija
19:08
@CowperKettle Thanks!
user image
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He has huge feet... :P
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
Wow
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Catija Also prolly as large as Godzilla
Three answerers barging on the FGITW but none of them voting on the questions . . .
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
He has blue eyes and rosy feet
Yes, Bigfoot Ben is very sweet
(0:
Good night!
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Night
Catija
Catija
@CowperKettle Awww, it rhymes! Thanks :D
Night!
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
19:55
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: What does "It can be common or split between the digital and analog sections." mean? by Danial Schwartz on ell.SE
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@SmokeDetector Baby's first message \o/
 
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ColleenV
ColleenV
21:34
@snailplane Why can we say "allow him to go" but not "let him to go"? I know what's correct but I don't know why and this question has got me thinking about it:
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Q: Difference between "allow" and "let"

Yaroslav TrofimovIt is interesting for me to know how one can distinguish the case in which one should use "allow" from the case in which one should use "let". For example: Jim's parents wouldn't {allow/let} him go to the demonstration. How can we decide what word to use? It seems reasonable to use either...

word-choice connotations
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@ColleenV The why is usually hard to answer in English
Partly because it's unclear
Are you looking for etymological reasons?
ColleenV
ColleenV
@M.A.R. No, snail sometimes educates me in the mod channel and I thought this time maybe our conversation should be where others can see it
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@ColleenV She always educates us
But the 'why' is hard to answer.
ColleenV
ColleenV
Sometimes the why can't be answered, but a lot of the time snailplane knows some interesting linguistic features about my random wonderings
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Usually people, especially people like me, just throw some random labels and for some reason that counts as a why.
ColleenV
ColleenV
21:38
I mean I know the real answer is "because English!"
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
OK, I gotta sleep. Nighty night
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discussion
ColleenV
ColleenV
but the discussion can lead interesting places and teach me new terms like... um... deverbal noun
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
BTW, I get a feeling I've seen this username multiple times before
@ColleenV Or QSV
ColleenV
ColleenV
We've had a few "Englishxxxx" users
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Or contrastive focus reduplication, with a link
Catija
Catija
21:41
Hey Colleen. Does Fumble's answer on ELU make sense to you as an explanation?
ColleenV
ColleenV
@Catija I didn't see a link to it - is it recent?
Aha! I see
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Q: "I let him do it" and "I allow him to do it", why exactly does one require 'to'?

user3650808 I let him do it. and I allow him to do it. Why does the latter require to? What are the "rules" of using to with an infinitive? When is it necessary?

verbs infinitives particles
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
It doesn't contain many badass terms because it aims to be educational
And just as always, it's 'the rule is this, and these are exceptions'
ColleenV
ColleenV
"verbs of perception" aka "random English words that make you question what you think you know"
:)
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@ColleenV VOP is a learner thing more than a linguist thing to my information
ColleenV
ColleenV
Basically 83.5% of "That's weird, I wonder why that's different..." questions are answered with "because it's a verb of perception"
Well there is a set of verbs that causes things to shift - tenses, marked infinitives, et. al. Not sure if VOP is the proper term or not
Anonymous
21:57
@ColleenV Complementation. Different heads take different kinds of complements, and it can be a bit arbitrary. Unfortunately, you have to memorize which words take which kinds of complements.
Anonymous
You'll notice learners often ask on ELL how to tell whether a word takes V-ing or to V, and a lot of the time there is no way to tell without memorizing it :-(
Anonymous
Most verbs that take infinitival complements take to-infinitival complements. A few verbs are exceptions.
Anonymous
Help is especially exceptional because it can take both.
Anonymous
Make takes bare infinitival complements in the active, and to-infinitival in the passive.
Anonymous
Let takes bare infinitival complements.
Anonymous
21:59
But you just have to memorize these things.
Anonymous
You can actually look at it historically and notice the commonality in the exceptions (they are all very old verbs that are native to English, generally one-syllable), but you still have to memorize it.
Anonymous
Oh, we can lump in most of the auxiliaries, too.
Anonymous
Fortunately, there aren't way too many verbs that take bare infinitival complements, so it's a decent strategy to treat them as exceptions :-)
Catija
Catija
22:18
HA HA HA. We just rejected a migration from ELU that was sent here back in 2013.
ColleenV
ColleenV
22:54
@Catija That's funny. Apparently there isn't a statute of limitations, so we're not really ELU's trash bin. We're more like Pet Sematary
Catija
Catija
Hee hee.
I saw one that got sent over recently that also had dupe close votes on ELU... which peeves me. If there's already a dupe on ELU, shouldn't that be the preferred option?
ColleenV
ColleenV
@Catija Yeah, it's annoying
but overall the migration path is a good thing I think
Maybe the folks that migrated didn't feel it was a dupe
Catija
Catija
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Q: Is the use of for in this statement correct: "I would like for you to get me that pen"?

fmbidaI have just had a debate with a colleague related to the use of "for" in a sentence. I would therefore request correction/guidance here: Is the use of for in these statements correct: "I would like for you to get me that pen"; I would like for you to read me those words"?

prepositions
ColleenV
ColleenV
@snailplane Thanks for the explanation - I tried to tell y'all that questions that seem like they have simple answers could still have some interesting aspects ...
Catija
Catija
Looks pretty dupe-y to me... but it's possible the dupe was recommended late.
ColleenV
ColleenV
23:00
Yeah it's hard to wrangle the cats sometimes - we have some folks here that are going through the review queues way too quickly as well
and it leads to mistakes
It seems like an OK question though and it's nice of them to give us their spare one since they already have one :)

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