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CowperKettle

02:32

Wow.

I'm alone in chat.

> "І жах, і кров, і смерть, і відчай,
І клекіт хижої орди.
Маленький сірий чоловічок
Накоїв чорної біди.

Це звір огидної породи.
Лох-Несс холодної Неви.
Куди ж ви дивитесь, народи?!
Сьогодні ми, а завтра – ви."

Færd

02:57

Hi @DamkerngT.! Do you happen to know why there's an h in Thai?

This question occurred to me yesterday when I told a bunch of people that Thai is not pronounced like thigh, and they were all surprised.

CowperKettle

06:24

Is it pronounced with a hard t?

Interesting

dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/thai

Not very hard, but not F either.

> Thaw a cryovial from the studied cell bank (MCB, WCB or PPCB) and inoculate the contents into complete culture medium.

I don't know whether to use an article here... articles kill me.

> Thaw a cryovial from the studied cell bank (MCB, WCB or PPCB) and inoculate the contents into a/the complete culture medium.

I think it needs some article..

CowperKettle

06:37

> If necessary, passage the cells into a larger volume.

I wonder if I can avoid the word 'container'. In Russian it is possible.

Anonymous

Is passage a verb?

Anonymous

@Færd It indicates an aspirated t.

Anonymous

In Thai aspiration is phonemic, so t and th are two different phonemes. Typing from my phone so I can't use the proper symbols.

CowperKettle

@snailplane yes, like in "cell passaging" (transferring some cells into another tube/flask/vial)

good morning/midnight!

I took this magical pill at a standard dose and have been feeling like I'll lose consciousness for 3 hours. O_O Lost 3 hours of translation.

Sawasdee khrap, @DamkerngT.!

Damkerng T.

Sawasdee khrap!

@Færd Because we follow IPA, or a similar system, I think. Thai has two kinds of "t"s, i.e., the aspirated /th/, and the unaspirated /t/. (And of course, we have /d/ as well.)

Ah! @snailplane already explained that!

CowperKettle

06:52

> To feel or see the difference between aspirated and unaspirated sounds, one can put a hand or a lit candle in front of one's mouth, and say spin [spɪn] and then pin [pʰɪn]. One should either feel a puff of air or see a flicker of the candle flame with pin that one does not get with spin.

Preaspiration? Hard to imagine.

> In phonetics, preaspiration (sometimes spelled pre-aspiration)[1] is a period of voicelessness or aspiration preceding the closure of a voiceless obstruent,[2] basically equivalent to an [h]-like sound preceding the obstruent. In other words, when an obstruent is preaspirated, the glottis is opened for some time before the obstruent closure.[3]

V.V.

Good Sunday morning!

CowperKettle

Good morning!

V.V.

Plus 2.

CowperKettle

−8,7°C

Mild winter has started.

We shall have short rains next week. O_O

V.V.

And we today.

Damkerng T.

07:04

@CowperKettle Ah! Russian has no unaspirated /t/ either?

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. I think it does have the unaspirated /t/

Damkerng T.

Nice!

CowperKettle

We have the word stop in Russian so it must be unaspirated

Damkerng T.

I see. But it's not phonemic, perhaps, then.

CowperKettle

I don't know..

I found some article that argues that Russian does have aspirated consonants

But you'd better spurn reading it cause it's in Russian

Damkerng T.

07:11

Hehe!

CowperKettle

07:25

Word of the morn: decanting

What Is the Purpose of Decanting in Chemistry? : Chemistry & Biology Concepts

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Anonymous

07:49

@CowperKettle Another thing you can do is hold a thin sheet of paper (or a receipt or such) in front of your mouth.

Anonymous

When the vocal cords vibrate, it slows down the air passing through.

Anonymous

When you have "aspiration", or a puff of air, there's a period of time before the vocal cords begin to vibrate, and during that time, the air is moving much faster.

CowperKettle

@snailplane i.e. before the chords begin to vibrate in order to produce the next sound? Now I get it

> On the next day, spin down the cells and extract plasmid DNA using a commercially-available kit. (I have the urge of placing these commas there; it's easier to read in my view)

Pandya

11:24

@snailplane can you hep me at?:

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A: Why next tag badge needs a colon, but regular badge doesn't?

May be because it has more than one line/topic to say. For Next badge, it has only one line information e.g. 247/300, Civic Duty. But for Next tag badge it has multiple line information e.g 3/100 score, 1/20 answers, tags. So, When it refers to more than one or say multiple lines o...

/cc @DamkerngT. ^^

userr2684291

12:18

@Pandya I'm not aware of such a rule.

CowperKettle

3

A: in presence of vs in the presence of

Both are possible. The sentence without the would imply to elders in general. Putting the would specify those elders. So, if you are talking about the manners, we should show respect in presence of any elder. In that way, I'd not use the definite articles at both the places. Consider these exam...

I think Maulik ji missed the point of the question a bit. The question was about the first of the two thes

I now have the same question and Maulik's answer puzzles me. Maybe I should reread it carefully.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle ^_^

I have already posted my comment over there. :)

I'd say we need the there in the OP's example.

@Pandya I think it's just a case of inconsistency in the UI.

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. I set up a bounty to see more answers..

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Aww... I missed that message. Hope you're fine now.

@CowperKettle Nice!

CowperKettle

Luckily I have many points and can give out bounties left and right while I'm translating..

Damkerng T.

12:26

Hehe!

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Yes, much better! (0:

Damkerng T.

Yay!

@snailplane That's good news! Sorry to hear about the flood, though. Sounds like it's a major one this time.

(I missed a lot of messages in our chat lately, apparently.)

CowperKettle

> to cultivate a cell line carrying a viral genotype VIe replicon in the presence of different concentrations of chemical compounds provided by the company

This is my sentence.

I was not sure about the there

userr2684291

"Beijing has historically been more reluctant to impose sanctions on North Korea than other world powers because it is concerned about a power vacuum on its southern border if the regime is allowed to fail." Does this mean that South Korea will come into power if the regime of Best Korea fails?

Rather, "try to come into power"?

CowperKettle

No, the sentence only speaks about "power vacuum".

Stack Exchange

12:37

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Q: in presence of vs in the presence of

"in presence of" vs "in the presence of" Should we use "in presence of" or "in the presence of" in the following sentence? "We should show more respect in the presence of the elders." "We should show more respect in presence of the elders."

userr2684291

@CowperKettle I take it as something that attracts power.

Are they talking about North Korea as a whole as a power vacuum on China's southern border?

Damkerng T.

@userr2684291 I wonder that, too.

I'd say it's probably not technically correct to say North Korea is on China's southern border.

userr2684291

Exactly.

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. eastern?

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle I'd say, yes.

userr2684291

12:42

Exactly why I dismissed that idea in the first place.

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. by mind map was very distorted. I rarely look at the map of China. (0:

userr2684291

But maybe it somehow is, and that's all the article is trying to convey.

Damkerng T.

But that location is very strategic.

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Russia had a city in Korea

Damkerng T.

Hah!

CowperKettle

12:45

Battle of Port Arthur

The Battle of Port Arthur (Japanese: 旅順口海戦, Hepburn: Ryojunkō Kaisen) of 8–9 February 1904 (Monday February 8 – Tuesday February 9) marked the commencement of the Russo-Japanese War. It began with a surprise night attack by a squadron of Japanese destroyers on the Russian fleet anchored at Port Arthur, Manchuria, and continued with an engagement of major surface combatants the following morning; further skirmishing off Port Arthur would continue until May 1904. The battle itself ended inconclusively, though the war itself ended in a decisive Japanese victory. == Background == The opening stage...

Damkerng T.

See, it's not very far to get to Beijing from the sea if S. Korea and Japan give a green light to someone.

CowperKettle

oops, that was not in Korea

Imagine a whole Korea like South Korea! We'll be swimming in cars and microwave ovens.

Damkerng T.

LOL

CowperKettle

This should be prevented at any cost (0:

Damkerng T.

And mobile phones, playing games all day long!

CowperKettle

12:47

(0:

userr2684291

@DamkerngT. Would my original interpretation be OK?

CowperKettle

and 1000 more installments of Running Man

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle With giant TV screens bombarding us with ads continuously, even.

CowperKettle

(0:

Damkerng T.

@userr2684291 I think so.

Wait! Which is the original interpretation?

userr2684291

12:50

That South Korea wants to encroach on Best Korea's territory.

Damkerng T.

I think the implication after the vacuum is intentionally left to be ambiguous.

So, unless the news or the article explicitly says so, it might be one step too far, according to the text.

@CowperKettle That the is fine, IMO.

CowperKettle

13:16

@DamkerngT. thank you!

Damkerng T.

(^_^)

CowperKettle

> 1 tube, 10 µmol equal 8.7 mg (a record in a table cell)

> 1 tube, 10 µmol equals 8.7 mg

I think that both are acceptable. "an amount of 10 micromol equals to an amount of 8.7 mg"

Damkerng T.

Yeah, I think it's like N dollars is/are ...

CowperKettle

nods

Damkerng T.

I like equals better, personally.

CowperKettle

13:19

Me too

Because it assumes the amount as a "parcel", a whole thing, which it is.

userr2684291

Word of the day: power vacuum

I didn't realize it's an actual term.

I thought they made it up for the article's purposes.

M.A.R.

14:32

@DamkerngT. Thankz

!!flip

Ellbot

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Damkerng T.

A cute flip!

@userr2684291 I'm more familiar with political vacuum, but the two terms are pretty similar.

CowperKettle

Where's the serotonin?

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle I'm in your brains

CowperKettle

@M.A.R. (0:

M.A.R.

14:47

\o

CowperKettle

o/

M.A.R.

@DamkerngT. hmm, what are their differences? I know that power vacuum is prolly the thingy that lead to IS being born

Damkerng T.

Power (vacuum) covers a wider range of forms of power, I think.

CowperKettle

> Former Swedish Prime Minister Carl Bildt early Sunday mocked President Trump after Trump pointed to an incident “last night” in Sweden to defend his travel ban.

“Sweden? Terror attack? What has he been smoking? Questions abound,” Bildt tweeted.

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle the only thing I don't like about the four years of the current POTUS's presidency is we'll get used to mocking him

Damkerng T.

14:54

BREAKING NEWS. Swedish police have released picture of the man sought for the terror attack #lastnightinsweden… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/833268073419403264

Tweeted by DougallChops on February 19, 2017 at 10:52 AM

I think that guy's from The Muppet Show!

A funny character, IIRC.

CowperKettle

@M.A.R. (0:

LOL

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle ?

Færd

16:20

@DamkerngT. Thanks.

@snailplane Thanks.

Anonymous

17:01

@Pandya As pointed out in the comments, your answer doesn't really make sense. There is no rule saying there should be a colon in one spot but not the other. It's just an inconsistency in the text on the site.

Pandya

@snailplane ok. I'm deleting my answer. Thanks.

CowperKettle

19:05

> STATEMENT OF WORK
for research to be conducted under the title:
"Determination of the specific activity of a number of pilot antiviral chemical compounds developed by CompanyName"

I wonder if "Statement of Work" is the right phrase.

Maybe it's "Requirements Specification"?

Multitran has dozens of options

I've translated this document that describes what is to be done: goals and steps to achieve them, and the deadlines. Signatures at the end.

I'm not sure about the title though

This document is an Appendix to a Contract.

The contract is already signed. So the statement is quite firm.

CowperKettle

19:23

Found another expression: Terms of Reference

But it looks so unlike the Russian техническое задание

Damkerng T.

19:42

I think statement of work is fine.

V.V.

20:24

@CowperKettle requirements specification

Damkerng T.

21:27

I tried EL&U home page for a change, and look at the first question I found:

-1

Q: What's an elegant single word for "A new beginning" or "Fresh start"

What's an elegant single word for "a new beginning" or "a fresh start"? A good example would be a ceo of a company just filed chapter 11, writes in an email We are looking to restructure our company … Looking forward for a ________ with our enterprise transformed into a cutting edge hi-tec...

single-word-requests word-choice word-usage

It's a SWR again!

(FWIW, a new chapter sounds much better than the renaissance.)

M.A.R.

23:09

@DamkerngT. I just saw ELU's HNQ that said "what does waaaaay mean?"

Anonymous

23:55

Good afternoon! :-)

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