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Nagendra

03:55

@snailplane Is it wrong to say "to prevent people from drinking alcohol"?

Færd

@M.A.R. @user2684291 @snailplane (This is one way to resolve the smiley problem: ت)

Man_From_India

@Nagendra what's the complete sentence? The infinitive clause on its own is correct.

Færd

I would use it if the Farsi/Arabic font here weren't so abominable.

Man_From_India

@Færd how about if our ELL chatroom was conferred with support to unicode smiley.

(well, on mobile platform it does support unicode smiley, but on desktop platform it doesn't)

Nagendra

@Man_From_India Consider the sentence "Tougher laws are needed to prevent people from drinking and driving".

Man_From_India

04:05

@Nagendra correct sentence. Why do you think it is incorrect?

Nagendra

@Man_From_India I didn't think it's wrong. But a person has been arguing with me saying prevent is wrong and deter is right. He further said that he learnt it from a British teacher. I said both are right. I asked here to confirm it.

Anonymous

04:34

@Nagendra No

Anonymous

They just mean different things.

Anonymous

Neither of them is wrong.

Nagendra

04:47

@snailplane How thay are different?

Stack Exchange

05:17

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Q: How can I inform moderators to rethink about their decision?

I asked few questions on ell forum, one of them is marked as duplicate. Are "present continuous" and "be going to" interchangeable? I believe the question is not duplicate, but maybe the moderates mislead by the comments. So, is there any way to ask them to take another look at the question?

Man_From_India

05:58

@Nagendra The difference between "stop" and "discourage". "To stop people from doing something" vs "to discourage people from doing something".

Man_From_India

06:43

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Q: The use of the construction "one's +gerund +..." as subject

Can I use the phrase "My being neat and quiet" as a subject of the sentence? For example, My being neat and quiet seems something they appreciate.

gerund-clauses

> [My being neat and quiet] seems something (they appreciate).

I answered there stating that this sentence is correct. Because I have seen several instance of seem something.

Man_From_India

06:56

But when I try to reason it with grammatical explanation of Ascriptive PC and Specifying PC, I tend to think that seem something is incorrect. Because I believe it's Specifying PC, and so needs a to be like this seems to be something.

Or it might happen that without the relative clause - they appreciate ___ - the Predicative Complement (PC) - something - is not specifying. And hence it's okay to say/write seem something.

Damkerng T.

09:24

I respect your point of view, and maybe it is not common. but there are a lot of references consider it as form of simple future: please check the above links and The English space, English Grammar is Simple! Book, Contextual English Book .... — Shannak Jan 22 at 16:08

Hmm... this is confusing!

Let's suppose be going to is a tense, a simple future or future simple tense--whichever a source seems to prefer--what tense would this be: I might have been going to go?

One source keeps using "the Future Simple Tense with 'going to'".

I'm not sure what the author wants it to mean.

Is tense time? Is 'going to' part of tense or the tense itself?

Damkerng T.

09:43

To me, saying something like the Simple Future has two forms will and be going to in a book for beginners is understanding, even though it's quite misleading, because most beginners can't take everything all at once anyway.

Then again, it plants a seed of confusion and could make their grammar awareness stagnant at a later stage.

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Q: (Train / Subway) Station Vs (Train / Subway) Stop - Difference between (AmE / BrE)

Is there a difference between a (train / subway) station and a (train / subway) stop in the US? Is there a difference between UK and US? E.g. what do you call it in the US and in the UK subway system: The train will stop at next (stop / station). (In a train route and not underground syst...

word-usage word-difference

Man_From_India

@DamkerngT. It's wrong to call be going to future tense.

Damkerng T.

@Man_From_India Yes, I think so. Even then, so many people do it that way anyway.

Man_From_India

Apart from anything, English doesn't have a future tense.

Damkerng T.

At least one source in the OP's comment is an ESL teacher, too. And I checked some links the OP gave in other comments, at least two books and one webpage say the same thing.

Man_From_India

I think it's safe to call it semi-modal. I haven't checked grammar books for its explanation. Just saying it from top of my head.

Damkerng T.

09:54

BTW, I wonder what makes station vs. stop a good question? -- I asked myself in both English and Thai and I don't think it's a very good question.

Man_From_India

In no way can "something they appreciate" be adjectival. And if you want to discuss it further, please move to chat; but you'd be doing the OP a favor by editing your answer to remove the assertion that the sentence is correct. — verbose 51 mins ago

Damkerng T.

Casting be going to as a tense is about as good as saying will be able to is the future tense of can or managed to is the past tense of can, IMHO.

Man_From_India

Should I delete my answer there?

@DamkerngT. nods

Damkerng T.

@Man_From_India I think the sentence is okay.

Man_From_India

Me too. And so in doubt to delete it.

I was in doubt about the grammatical explanation. Hence I haven't added it there in my answer.

Damkerng T.

09:58

Hmm... I wonder why verbose mentioned "adjectival clause". It doesn't look to me like you mentioned it first.

Man_From_India

@verbose thinking about it for some more time I think it can be analyzed by both ways. So adding to be here is optional. — Man_From_India 56 mins ago

Damkerng T.

I think nobody would think She seems a lady is ungrammatical.

Man_From_India

@DamkerngT. nods

Damkerng T.

But I guess using seem without like or to be is much less common in AmE than in BrE.

Man_From_India

@DamkerngT. i think he thinks only adjectives or AdjP can come after seem.

Damkerng T.

10:00

nods

> I thought it a liberty; but still, as he seemed a gentleman, I told him he might come.

> --John Keats

Man_From_India

Yes

Cardinal

10:28

I have nothing to think :(( . Two years of effort went up to smoke.
I will never forgive Trump.
Is there any act of terror perpetrated by Persian guy in the last 30 years?
Splendid, ban students.

Damkerng T.

Oh, right. I'm sorry to hear that.

I suspected things like this would be on the way while watching the inauguration ceremony.

It was quite different from previous inauguration speeches.

@Cardinal EU instead, maybe?

Cardinal

@DamkerngT. nods That's not the USA I knew.

@DamkerngT. Yes, I applied sporadically for the EU. But, I prefer Iran over most of them. At least, I am around my family. Also, I'm not sanguine about the future of the EU.

Damkerng T.

nods

CowperKettle

11:36

businessinsider.com/…

robots start delivering food in California

Damkerng T.

11:51

One less delivery jobs for human.

CowperKettle

John Connor should start smashing those pizza deliverers to pieces until it's too late

*before

CowperKettle

13:33

@Cardinal People have been un-sanguine about that for the last 2500 years

It will get along all right, as the US will too

Anonymous

13:46

@Cardinal I'm sorry, that sounds awful :-(

CowperKettle

Did Trump ban all Persian students from applying for grants?

I was not reading news

I would have surely applied for a position in EU, or for a grant there. The future of the EU looks bad mostly on propaganda TV channels

M.A.R.

@Færd No please no

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. To an AmE speaker without much exposure to BrE or older writing, She seems a lady might well seem ungrammatical.

Damkerng T.

@snailplane Oh!

Anonymous

At the very least, it might not be part of their natively acquired grammar, so they might not run into that sort of thing until they're exposed to other varieties of the language.

CowperKettle

14:06

Good evening, Stoney! I hope all is fine in the land across the water.

Anonymous

I think for a lot of speakers the preference for either seems like NP or seems to be NP is really very strong.

Damkerng T.

@snailplane I guess so. Maybe seems NP is strongly BrE.

Good evening, everyone!

M.A.R.

\o

CowperKettle

o/

StoneyB

Hi, Cow! I'm fine but the land's got its problems--as evidenced in the uppage discussion. And I'm distressed by the hatecrime being perpetrated on ELU.

So distressed I'm confusing its and it's. Getting old, I guess.

Anonymous

14:09

@DamkerngT. I would accept seems NP, but I think I had to learn it as a teenager.

M.A.R.

BTW, I had a question

It just struck me while I was walking home

CowperKettle

I avoid ELU because it's full of single-word requests and because of the general low-tolerance aura there

StoneyB

AND I'm confusing ELU and ELL. I should give up and go back to bed.

Anonymous

@StoneyB Thank you for editing that post :-)

CowperKettle

@StoneyB ah!

M.A.R.

14:11

Here's the question. If we twist a plot twist, does it become a plot twist twist or a plot twist plot twist?

Damkerng T.

@StoneyB A cup of tea or any refreshing beverage of choice could make you feel better. :D

Or so I hope!

StoneyB

@snailplane Vile, vile, vile. Experts elsewhere tell me I should have merely flagged it.

M.A.R.

@StoneyB They're right

Damkerng T.

@M.A.R. A twisted twisted plot, maybe.

Anonymous

No, I think the edit was fine.

M.A.R.

14:13

Usually frustrated people rollback an edit and generally act like jerks

NOOB

They must've been a noob

Anonymous

@M.A.R. This particular troll self-deletes his accounts after posting.

StoneyB

@M.A.R. Depends. A plot twist twist is merely a twist in a plot twist--a metatwist; but a plot twist plot twist is a plot twist in a plot twist--a metaplottwist.

Anonymous

He already has multiple ten-year network suspensions.

M.A.R.

@snailplane Some people can't get over it, it seems

@StoneyB So both, kinda?

StoneyB

This is at least his second major post on the subject.

M.A.R.

14:17

Gee, kinda like you-know-who

StoneyB

@M.A.R. A metaplottwist would I think require the narrative presence of the narrator in his role as narrator intervening in the action.

Anonymous

Please don't speculate. He just wants attention. The best thing we can do is just to delete it without reading it and ignore it.

M.A.R.

@snailplane That's why it's best not to edit

Engaging with the troll is letting them win

Anonymous

No, editing is fine.

M.A.R.

Speaking of trolls

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Q: Is this graphic about Trump's ban on immigration from multiple countries accurate?

This image states that: Trump is poised to sign an Executive Order banning entry to the United States from These 7 Muslim contries: Iran, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia Conspicious in their absence, are the 3 Muslim countries with which Trump does business: Egypt, S...

united-states history donald-trump

Anonymous

14:19

That way fewer people see it before it's deleted.

M.A.R.

But they can roll back, can't they?

Anonymous

No, as I said.

Anonymous

This particular troll self-deletes his accounts after posting.

user2684291

@M.A.R. That reminds me of that movie, Murder by Natural Causes. Have you seen it?

M.A.R.

@user2684291 Nope

@snailplane Oh OK. Shrug

The only thing we gotta do is open an ELL tab and stay alert.

Damkerng T.

14:22

@M.A.R. For some reason, the comma in the graphic caught my eye.

I think it's ungrammatical.

Maybe I've spent too much time on ELL. :P

M.A.R.

@DamkerngT. We're not talking about correctness, we're talking about politics. Take a number.

Damkerng T.

I guess so. Still, that comma caught my eye.

Anonymous

The comma probably shouldn't be there, but the message is effective despite it.

M.A.R.

And yeah it sounds ungrammatical

That reminds me

There was a drama-like thing on meta.Skeptics

CowperKettle

Shakespeare Sonnet of the Day: Sonnet 30

M.A.R.

14:25

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Q: "Abusing the flagging system" - really?

On this question Was it harder for Syrian Christians to immigrate to the US than Muslims? , comments were as shown below: While the question is on topic, it seems of little importance. – Sklivvz♦ 30 mins ago Here's an example claim that contains more details. Note: it's an opinion piece,...

discussion support

CowperKettle

copypaste malfunction.. I need to take a rest from multitasking

M.A.R.

Argh what is wrong with those people

No flame wars.

Anonymous

In general we don't put a comma between a subject and its verb unless we need to to make the sentence clear. In this case we have subject–dependent inversion, so the constituent to the left of the verb is not actually the subject, but I think the same rule applies.

Damkerng T.

nods

StoneyB

@snailplane Da. It's not the subject but it is a constituent of the main clause--PC--and the comma falsely marks it as a supplement.

Damkerng T.

14:29

> Once the configration file has been parsed and loaded successfully, the bminit will look for "server" entries in the configuration and create one bmserver process for each of them.

Something I wrote in an old document.

configration -- I guess making typos is really my expertise!

StoneyB

I read that as "conflagration file"!

Damkerng T.

LOL

M.A.R.

@DamkerngT. Yah, it's realy hard to make that typo.

Whoops.

Damkerng T.

Let's watch something fun for a change:

Christopher: 54-Year-Old Performer Recreates the Village People's "YMCA" - America's Got Talent 2016

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CowperKettle

(0:

StoneyB

14:55

Is there a name for the fallacy which underlies A-friend's questions: the notion that among n more or less grammatical possibilities there is one best way to say X? More to the point, has anybody explicitly and cogently addressed this fallacy here, so we can point A-friend to it?

CowperKettle

He is just trawling for some more popular formulations

I can't understand the meaning of this

the picture above

the formulas seem illogical

M.A.R.

@StoneyB Not as elaborately as you would ever do, but I remember Dam telling something of the sort to some of the learners here

CowperKettle

> The amount of each impurity (either identified or unidentified) is determined by the peak area ratio according to the formula:

But there is no ratio in the formula

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle I don't understand the notation, but perhaps they mean the percentage?

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Maybe the author has some ellipses in thought. :P

(related: ell.stackexchange.com/questions/117169/…)

CowperKettle

15:01

Yes.. I just can't understand this.

M.A.R.

@DamkerngT. Or ran out of ink

CowperKettle

I have some 12 hours before submitting my translation

M.A.R.

Wait, that's too old

@CowperKettle Ahh, the good ol' panic mode

CowperKettle

I doubt that I'll learn HPLC methods in 12 hours good enough to guess.

I was studying statistics during the holidays. So am not prepared for all this HPLC stuff

StoneyB

NMF, but I think it means that the 'peak area ratio' is the value calculated by the formula, Area%(corr). That is in fact a ratio, a term which designates any value X divided by Y.

Damkerng T.

15:04

@StoneyB I wonder if there's a specific term for it. If you somehow stumble upon such a term in the future, don't forget to tell me!

CowperKettle

@StoneyB Thank you!

They must have made a mistake then in writing the first sentence

and I don't understand why if we subtract all impurities from 100 we should get an impurity

maybe they are wrting about some conditions.. this thing should exceed the Limit Of Quantitation (LOQ)

StoneyB

@CowperKettle That one's beyond my paygrade!

CowperKettle

(0:

CowperKettle

15:20

0

A: Usage of the term "test panel"

As @mstorkson explains well, the term "test panel" is not limited to tests for diagnosing medical conditions. In the medical field, "test panel" usually does imply a standard set of tests, such as a panel of routine liver function tests. I think it's important to be aware, however, that "test p...

If this answer is good, please upvote

I don't have time

Færd

Mostly, you are enthused about sth, but have enthusiasm for sth.

I wonder if that's because of a nuance of meaning.

StoneyB

@Færd Personally, I wouldn't use either: I'd say "I'm enthusiastic about X".

Færd

You find them substandard in any way?

StoneyB

15:37

Enthuse, verb, is a back-formation and has never had a very wide currency: I would avoid it entirely in formal contexts. And it's fine to speak of my enthusiasm just like my happiness or my boredom; but they're not usually treated as qualities I possess but as personal attributes: "I'm happy, I'm bored, I'm enthusiastic."

Færd

@StoneyB That was insightful. Thanks.

M.A.R.

The Netherlands welcomes Trump in his own words

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user2684291

@Færd I've never heard anyone use the former, but the latter is a perfectly cromulent expression.

Færd

I just reported a comparison between some COCA search results. Enthused about is common enough there, maybe not in all registers though.

StoneyB

@Faerd Take a look at this

Færd

15:47

And this.

@StoneyB Yes, seems like enthusiastic enjoys wider acceptance.

Cardinal

@CowperKettle Trump did ban All of the Persians from entering the USA which includes students, green card holders, .... .

Færd

They did this mostly to their own detriment. It's not like the US is the only place where you can go and learn something.

Cardinal

@Færd In my opinion, the US is indeed the only place that people are treated, (or I genuinely believed so) equally. I just prefer the USA.

Færd

In pursuit of higher education I mean, if that's why you're upset about it's doors being closed to you.

@Cardinal Don't agree with you there at all.

M.A.R.

@Cardinal Can't agree

Færd

15:55

How did you compare it to other countries? How did the comparison go?

M.A.R.

IMHO the biggest problem of the Iranian mind is the grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side belief

Færd

One of the big ones, yes.

Cardinal

Hmm, that's my opinion and that is to some extent complicated.

Færd

I wouldn't form personal opinions about things that can be factually evaluated, or estimated.

M.A.R.

@Cardinal i.imgur.com/5fhIOoT.gif .

Cardinal

16:00

Hmm, I just don't want to talk about it right know.

M.A.R.

K

Færd

The US is not even considered among the fully democratic nations anymore. It has flawed democracy, as per some ratings that you can find on the net.

M.A.R.

And not ones sourced by the Iranian side

Færd

And it's not like it happened because of Trump's election. That was just a nudge that downgraded it a little bit.

Cardinal

@Færd The fact that people in the USA are different from the other parts of the globe. That's what I like the most about the country. I like their culture.

Færd

16:03

That's another double standard.

M.A.R.

@Cardinal TBH, I don't get why you don't have the same vibe for Europeans.

Cardinal

Europe is traditional (I don't want to say Racist!)

M.A.R.

And well, I guess the other side might seem like Utopia.

@Cardinal America's worse, isn't it?

Cardinal

@M.A.R. No, not all.

M.A.R.

1006

Q: Time to take a stand

I am extremely upset by President Trump’s executive order on immigration. It is immoral, unconstitutional, and fundamentally un-American. The community on Stack Overflow is made up of users from all over the world. At least 100,000 posts on Stack Overflow were written by users from the seven cou...

discussion featured

I keep reading it ''Time to take a sand''

Cardinal

16:06

I am talking about the ordinary people.

M.A.R.

@Cardinal That would lead me to believe you're uninformed.

@Cardinal The ordinary people voted for Trump.

Færd

Please be objective about your opinions when you pass judgment on people thousands of miles away from you.

Cardinal

so, I said that It's complicated.

Færd

That's not being objective.

Cardinal

@M.A.R. Trump had near 3 m lower vote.

Also, Hillary is not a popular figure.

M.A.R.

16:08

Remind me again who's the POTUS now?

Færd

And seldom can a complicated matter be summarized into a simple sentence like "Americans are more X than Europeans".

For goodness's sake, Europe is a continent.

Cardinal

@Færd Let me give you an example, after finishing your studies they will throw away. You cannot find job because you are not europian. And a gamut of other reasons

M.A.R.

@Cardinal I don't think the situation is any better in America.

Færd

@Cardinal Based on my own personal experiment and my close relatives', that's not generally true.

M.A.R.

One reason people voted for Trump was that he promised to fix the economy they believe to be broken.

To correct decisions people now believe were mistaken

Cardinal

16:10

@M.A.R. Listen guys 1/4 of my classmate are already in the USA. I am not just babbling nonesense

M.A.R.

@Cardinal Then they surely know about why promising to throw out immigrants gained him some votes?

Cardinal

@M.A.R. The only reason is that people didn't vote for the Hillary.

M.A.R.

Glad that I'm not the only person oversimplifying here :)

Færd

@Cardinal And 98% of my classmates are scattered over the globe, Europe and America and elsewhere.

Maybe a little less than 98%. ;)

Cardinal

:-) I meant if the nominee was Sanders, he would be the potus.

M.A.R.

16:12

97.5

@Cardinal Yes he would, because people believe Trump to be racist and sexist.

Færd

Wait, it's 100%. Because Iran is on the globe too.

M.A.R.

But the ones that still voted for him wanted a cleaner economy.

Cardinal

@Færd I don't want to insist on my point. I just like the USA with all of its pros and cons!

@Færd :-)

M.A.R.

@Cardinal It's okay to like a country. But what's not okay is to just assume it's better than all other countries merely for the fact that its governors like bullying countries here and there

Love USA. Don't justify it by false reasons.

Because you'd end up making yourself believe those reasons

I personally like Switzerland a lot.

Cardinal

I said that, I am not talking about the government. I said I like their culture which is significantly different from the EU.

Færd

16:16

@Cardinal Then there's no common ground for us to discuss this.

M.A.R.

But I learned the homicide rate there is high. And I can't deny that.

Færd

Ciao.

user2684291

16:32

@M.A.R. According to Wikipedia, Iran and the US of A have the same homicide rate.

M.A.R.

@user2684291 I was talking about Switzerland.

And it was higher than I expected.

For a beacon-of-peace kinda country

user2684291

Oh.

@M.A.R. That doesn't seem to be true, either.

And I wouldn't expect it to be true.

M.A.R.

Hmm

Lemme remember where I saw it

Maybe there were more specifications

Hmm, it was a list about gunfire, probably

Yeah, homicides by gunfire, or something like that

Lemme find a link

user2684291

Well... I'm not sure how to analyze that data.

M.A.R.

getpocket.com/a/read/1519232280

Can you access that link?

user2684291

16:38

No.

M.A.R.

getpocket.com/explore/item/…

This one?

CowperKettle

@Cardinal For 60 days? that will end

ah, 120 days

there are demonstrations already

So people will find a way to oppose Trump

Cardinal

@CowperKettle The termination is contingent upon the feed-back that they would receive from the "affected" countries.

@CowperKettle It's just the beginning of a 4 years of chaos. That's why Putin was in favor of a stupid unreliable and populist candidate.

user2684291

@M.A.R. Yeah, but the number is not that high.

M.A.R.

@user2684291 Yeah, but I expected it to be lower

CowperKettle

16:50

@Cardinal We shall see. There are courts in the US, and there are local governments. (0:

Although the courts sometimes pass ghoulish sentences, but still there is some system.

user2684291

@M.A.R. According to Wikipedia, Croatia is at 2.68 and Switzerland at 3.08... and you never hear about murders here, or they'd make news.

M.A.R.

Whatever

I don't have much interest in discussing the topic now

Cardinal

@CowperKettle Yes, the only thing we can do is "to watch" and try to enjoy!

M.A.R.

Maybe later

CowperKettle

I will try "to watch" some HPLC methods in US pharmacopoeia..

..Trump is unlikely to mess with that

Cardinal

16:53

@CowperKettle :))

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle That means it's boring

And uncontroversial

Cardinal

Guys, pardon me for disrupting your business over here by my off-topic debate.

See you o/

M.A.R.

The debate was the business

I was wondering if Snail or anyone else would've guided us to another room.

user2684291

It seemed civilized, so I don't see why they would have.

M.A.R.

Dunno. Politics is a really sensitive subject to talk about

During the election fiasco, mods even had to guide people to a room titled ''Election 2016'' so all the politics chatter, and the possible flame wars, would be easier to handle.

user2684291

17:00

O, I c.

M.A.R.

Cee is in lower case. TRIGGERED

user2684291

Why would I have capitalized it?

M.A.R.

To be consistent

I know, I KNOW. Consistency in txtspk is inconsistency and all that.

But why miss a chance to be triggered?

user2684291

Huh.

I was being consistent, though.

ColleenV

17:16

@M.A.R. The problem with political debate in the ELL room is that it can alienate people

and make them feel unwelcome

M.A.R.

I am alienated by the sheer disagreement by everyone's side ʕ ⊃･ ◡ ･ ʔ⊃︵┻━┻

ColleenV

There is an SE for political talk where folks are there to invite the discussion

Folks that come in here expect us to be talking about English :)

M.A.R.

@ColleenV Well, in this case, it was a bunch of Iranian blokes having a chit-chat.

It's usually ranting about our own government, but not when the chat is international.

ColleenV

It's OK, but y'all can make rooms for that if you want

I"m not saying you did anything wrong

I'm just saying it can go downhill quick

and it's better to be a little restrained on politics, religion, and whether or not aliens exist :)

M.A.R.

@ColleenV Yah, people's resistance has decreased greatly ever since they feel they should be offended about disagreement

It all started when the name calling started.

When you think people disagreeing with you are racist -- 'cause hey, they must be racist, right? -- you can't be easily civil to them.

ColleenV

17:24

Yeah, it's really difficult in this environment to have a neutral discussion any longer

If you make one statement, people assume they know everything about you, your character, your family, etc.

M.A.R.

And your pizza flavor

ColleenV

and there are only two types of people in the world. Those that are the same as me, and those who are monsters

M.A.R.

I hate pepperoni people. They're such @#$%%#@#$s.

ColleenV

it's really unhealthy :( Anyhow I think that with the language barrier that maybe it would be a good idea to avoid getting too deep into certain topics

OMG, those pepperoni people are terrible

And the people who put pineapple on their pizzas. They're mentally ill and immoral :P

M.A.R.

Yes, and they obviously have voted for you know who.

ColleenV

17:31

I know. Cruz supporters. Every last one of them.

M.A.R.

18:56

Comment of the day

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - M Gandhi — Narayan 15 hours ago

Now that I think about it, Gandhi is probably related to @Dam

Damkerng T.

@M.A.R. It's probably just that ahingsa is a common way of life around here.

M.A.R.

@DamkerngT. What was that again? Zen-yoga-something?

Damkerng T.

Oh, in other languages, it's pronounced ahimsa.

!!translate/อหิงสา

Ellbot

th: อหิงสา
en: nonviolence

M.A.R.

IOW, peacy thingy

Damkerng T.

19:00

nods

M.A.R.

But there has always been wars, no matter the culture

Damkerng T.

Indeed!

CowperKettle

An ass for an ass makes the whole world sass

Damkerng T.

!!translate/ไทยนี้รักสงบ แต่ถึงรบไม่ขลาด

M.A.R.

Ironically, I think peace holders in the world have ended up in more fights than activists and what-not.

Ellbot

19:00

th: ไทยนี้รักสงบ แต่ถึงรบไม่ขลาด
en: Thailand is peaceful, but the battle is not cowardice.

Damkerng T.

A line from our national anthem.

CowperKettle

Ah!

M.A.R.

TAKE MY FIST OF JUSTICE YOU IGNORANT MISLED PERSON WHICH I RESPECT

Or fist of peace

Fist of peace works better

Damkerng T.

A better translation would be "Thai people love peace, but we aren't cowardice in battles."

CowperKettle

Thailand girls are beautiful, but beaches are nice too

Damkerng T.

19:02

LOL

CowperKettle

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M.A.R.

languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=30645

Why did people suddenly become vegetarian and eat Broccoli?

CowperKettle

good night

Damkerng T.

Good night!

M.A.R.

Night

Damkerng T.

19:03

Come to think of it, I wonder if that line said by Caesar in Rise of the Planet of the Apes was inspired by our national anthem.

M.A.R.

> Apes stupid.

This one?

Damkerng T.

Heh!

M.A.R.

Make bananas, not war.

Damkerng T.

@M.A.R. Can't remember that line! (^_^)

M.A.R.

Also who knew a film about apes' revolution would work so well?

Guess the 2010s was the decade for a renewal

Damkerng T.

19:06

True, that!

M.A.R.

People got tired of previous social thingies. They needed to try new things

And it leaked to the movies

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It's totally not fair that I can't and won't go to the US, and you can and won't go to the US.

You should go to the US to compensate.

@M.A.R. Shucks, I missed 1111. I was looking forward to that

Word of the day: Bibliomania

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Damkerng T.

Ooh! The top answer is quite something.

M.A.R.

@DamkerngT. I hope everyone that Mr. Trump left hanging in the air get to punch him in the face some day. But for most of the population of the seven samurai, the ban was something like taking away freedom of speech. It seems a good thing to have, and you shouldn't deprive me of it.

Damkerng T.

nods

M.A.R.

I'm not planning to visit the US any time in my life, and I can speak for 99 percent of the people.

So all in all, the westerners themselves are making a bigger deal out of it than us.

Hey wait a minute. I'm skeptical that America exists. Prove me wrong

Cardinal

20:53

@CowperKettle :))

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