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user2684291

00:23

Do you say that the photograph has been professional done, or made?

*professionally, wow.

Anonymous

I was going to say, I could imagine professional-made (= 'made by a professional'), but not *professional done.

Anonymous

I don't think people would usually say that a photograph is made. They'd say it's taken.

Anonymous

Or shot.

Anonymous

I did a wildcard search on Google Books Ngram Viewer, and it backed up my hunch that it'd be taken: goo.gl/oBaIgb

user2684291

What about after the actual act of taking the picture? After the processing?

Joe Pinsonault

00:34

yeah "made" sort of makes it sound like someone created the picture with their bare hands

Anonymous

@user2684291 After it's processed? Like, a professionally printed photograph?

Anonymous

What happens after processing?

user2684291

No, I mean after it was edited.

Anonymous

What happens after editing that you would like to describe?

Anonymous

I'm running out of verbs :-)

Joe Pinsonault

00:37

I can imagine a situation like this: You take your kids to get their photos taken at a professional photography studio. You frame one of the pictures and put it on the wall of your house. A friend comes over and sees the picture. "Wow, that photo was really professionally done".

Anonymous

You want to refer to the whole process? The photo being taken, then edited, or whatever?

user2684291

...that the photo was done professionally. So I'm describing the result of the whole "process".

Joe Pinsonault

I think "done" works well in that case

Anonymous

Yeah :-) Thanks, @JoePinsonault.

user2684291

@JoePinsonault That's what I mean.

Anonymous

00:38

Alternatively, maybe you could just say the photo was really professional.

user2684291

Thank you both.

I'll stick with "professionally done", though.

Joe Pinsonault

yeah no problem

user2684291

Actually, "done professionally". It's late!

nods off.

Joe Pinsonault

what time is it for you? It's 4:45PM here

mike

00:54

good morning all

Happy tuesday :)

Anonymous

01:05

@user2684291 Yes, sounds good :-) Have a good night!

Anonymous

Good morning! I live in California, so it's five in the afternoon here.

Anonymous

And Monday. It's not Tuesday yet.

Anonymous

Greetings from the past!

mike

haha - greetings from the future :)

I used to live in Santa Cruz, a long time ago :)

CowperKettle

05:00

Good morning

> Make sure to fill out each entry in the form below

Is this correct?

Or should it be some other word?

Got it.

It's field or line

Anonymous

Sounds good :-)

Færd

05:20

I always said have trouble doing sth but in the back of my mind thought that there was a more 'correct' version being have trouble in doing sth. I had a rude awakening yesterday.

books.google.com/ngrams/…

Jude

06:36

It is started

is this sentence correct?

Joe Pinsonault

It's more idiomatic to say "It has started"

using "to be" and then the past participle of a verb is sort of archaic. "He is come", "We are departed"

sounds like the bible

but then there's "They are gone", which is perfectly idiomatic ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Jude

Would you think the sentence which I mentioned is incorrect?

Because this particular sentence seems to be familiar

¯_(ツ)_/¯

:D

Joe Pinsonault

It might be that it's normal, but just not in my dialect

Jude

@JoePinsonault BTw; this is correct. It's something different from my original idea

Joe Pinsonault

It's grammatically correct

Jude

06:44

I think has is used in that context to mention that on-going activity

isn't that so?

@JoePinsonault I'll be back after the lunch

Anonymous

@JoePinsonault Right, because gone has been reanalyzed as a predicate adjective.

Anonymous

The perfect auxiliary be has been lost, although it took a very long time.

Anonymous

@Færd Nice graph :-)

Joe Pinsonault

@snailplane thanks for all the terms to google =)

Anonymous

Oh, if you'd like to read more about the loss of the perfect auxiliary be, see for example be/have + past participle: the choice of the auxiliary with intransitives from Late Middle to Modern English (Kytö 1997), The Be/Have Variation with Intransitives in English (Rydén et al 1987), Structural change in the English auxiliary system: on the replacement of be by have (Zimmermann 1973)

CowperKettle

07:47

Damkerng T.

07:59

Not a real sleeping beauty! (She can hold that phone in her hand!)

But selfies don't spare anyone. :-)

CowperKettle

08:13

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> These conditions represent a public offer. They are published in open sources and are considered agreed upon by both parties once the money is transferred to the service provider's account.

I rarely translate such stuff. I hope it's okay

EngFan

08:53

Hello!!

user62015

09:43

@DamkerngT. Hi, can you see any issue in section b "A national survey of rural health care providers (a)/ was undertaken to identify their perceptions of the (b)/ environmental health issues faced their constituents. (c)/ No error (d)"

Damkerng T.

@user62015 Their word choices are interesting, though I think it's okay to use them. faced should've been facing, though.

@EngFan Hello!

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10:11

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Q: As a learner, how do I choose which answer to accept?

After reading some meta questions, it seems there a LOT of unanswered questions, and also that it's not necessarily a problem. I'd still want to know on what criteria I should accept an answer. On the question I posted (except one, that was actually even harder to accept) I never had more than 2...

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user62015

10:37

Okay. Thanks. @DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

10:58

No problem. :D

EngFan

11:24

Hi

Does any has an idea about Lang8 ?

How does it work?

V.V.

@DamkerngT. can you explain "a go" Buy! buy! buy! Mediæval Romance . . . Dips into the future, four-and-six a go . .

Færd

@snailplane Thanks. This one's more illustrative: books.google.com/ngrams/…

Damkerng T.

11:42

@V.V. I'm afraid not. I guess it might be clearer to the reader in context.

@EngFan I think it could be quite a useful site, but your mileage may vary.

M.A.R.

It also has Russian proofreaders

I posted a comment on meta that was perfectly 500 characters.

EngFan

12:13

Does it proof reads English

I have posted, but didn't get response and it's been a month since I posted

CowperKettle

@EngFan You must proofread someone's texts in other languages in order for your postings to get noticed

There's a system against freeloaders there

If you don't want to contribute, you must pay to get your posts noticed

EngFan

12:36

Oh I see

V.V.

13:36

@DamkerngT. I think of "a bargain ", they are selling books.

Damkerng T.

@V.V. Hmm... was the setting in England?

I wonder if four-and-six means something like four shillings and six pence.

A go could mean "a time", one time, but a time of what?

V.V.

Yes, in London, yes I think it's money, but I am stuck with "a go"

It's a sale. The authors are selling their books and advertise

Damkerng T.

Was it something like wholesale?

V.V.

I found the meaning of "bargain ", i.e. "Come and buy, it's cheap, only...

No, not that.

There's another meaning "a starting point " of a price

Damkerng T.

I guess I can't help much this time. (^_^)

V.V.

13:50

If it could be used for "a bargain ", it would be fine. But it's the first time I see "a go" used in such a way.

More often as an "attempt "

Damkerng T.

Yes, an attempt is possible, too, but I wonder if it fits the context.

V.V.

It doesn't.

Thanks anyway for "a go".

Damkerng T.

I wish I could've been more helpful!

V.V.

You are. I prefer thinking in company.

"Cracking " the riddles

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

V.V.

13:59

Gone to make some tea.

Damkerng T.

Enjoy!

mike

14:15

Good evening all

V.V.

14:29

Evening.

Dam, I found it! It's simply the price of a thing(informal ). 3£ a go. Longman exams dictionary. O-o -o.!

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CowperKettle

Schleicher's fable

Schleicher's fable (avis akvāsas ka) is an artificial text composed in the reconstructed language Proto-Indo-European (PIE) published by August Schleicher in 1868. Schleicher was the first scholar to compose a text in PIE. The fable is entitled Avis akvāsas ka ("The Sheep and the Horses"). At later dates, various scholars have published revised versions of Schleicher's fable, as the idea of what PIE should look like has changed over time. The fable may serve as an illustration of the significant changes that the reconstructed language has gone through during the last 140 years of scholarly efforts...

Pandya

15:56

Should I edit the title of this question to replace "what" with "which"?

I mean can "which" be more suitable rather than "what"?

Anonymous

If you want to rephrase it with which, I think you could:

Anonymous

> What are the Hindu scriptures which every Hindu should abide by?
> Which Hindu scriptures should every Hindu abide by?

Anonymous

I think these have the same meaning.

Anonymous

But with which, it's a little less wordy :-)

Pandya

Hmm... actually I want to know when to use which word? "which vs what" in such case.

Let me give second example

user2684291

16:13

@Pandya If there's a known/limited number of possibilities, use "which"; otherwise, use "what".

Pandya

ok

CowperKettle

16:50

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Yekaterinburg views

This "stepdown house" has the Keyboard Monument nearby

Keyboard monument

Keyboard Monument is an outdoor sculpture featuring the QWERTY keyboard. It is located in the Russian city of Yekaterinburg and is popular among tourists. == History == It was created by Anatoly Vyatkin and installed on October 5, 2005 on the embankment of the Iset River in the city center. The landmark depicts an IBM PC compatible Cyrillic computer keyboard increased in scale 30:1 (the area covered by the monument being 16 × 4 m), with 86 concrete keys, each weighing up to 1,000 pounds. The keyboard attracts many visitors to the city and is today considered one of its top sights. It is a...

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M.A.R.

Hey

Damkerng T.

@V.V. Great find!

V.V.

You see, how you helped!

Damkerng T.

Hehe! But you found it! :-)

CowperKettle

No need for a comma after "see"

Good evening

V.V.

17:00

I looked for it in online dictionaries, but there are few examples. Then I took a book. And voila.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Good evening!

@V.V. Yay!

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Good evening khrap!

M.A.R.

Evening Carbs

Damkerng T.

Sawasdee tohn kham khrap!

M.A.R.

@DamkerngT. T.K.K.? Sounds like an American president

Damkerng T.

17:02

LOL

M.A.R.

Except without squirrel fur glued all over his head

V.V.

Bad connection again.

M.A.R.

Dam quickly corrected his typo before I could think of a joke about it

Damkerng T.

@M.A.R. Hehe! I knew it! I knew you were gonna say something about it! (^_^)

CowperKettle

> Lukoil, Gazprom discuss cooperation on gas (Is this preposition okay?)

lukoil.com/PressCenter/Pressreleases/Pressrelease?rid=86579

M.A.R.

17:05

@CowperKettle I think so

Did you expect ''under''?

CowperKettle

I expected something like "discuss cooperation in the gas field"

user2684291

Haha.

CowperKettle

would this be wrong

?

M.A.R.

Yes, because it's long

V.V.

On (topic)

M.A.R.

17:07

Other than that, no

CowperKettle

Do we say "let's cooperate on this"? Hmm maybe you're right

user2684291

@CowperKettle Not necessarily, but I think "gas field" is awkward.

M.A.R.

MAYBE I'm right? ಠ_ಠ

CowperKettle

> TATNEFT Is Announcing a Competition for Grants

Would it not be better as announces?

user2684291

When I see the phrase "gas field", I associate it with the actual gas fields (e.g., en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_natural_gas_fields).

M.A.R.

17:10

Good point

CowperKettle

@user2684291 I see

I meant "in the industry field of gas field prospecting and development"

user2684291

It's usually referred to "gas sector", innit?

CowperKettle

dunno

user2684291

Yeah, I don't know either.

CowperKettle

I'll add "gas sector" to Anki.. maybe that will help

M.A.R.

17:12

@CowperKettle Hmm, or ''announcing''

I guess that just slipped

As long as it's not painfully long, anything works I guess

V.V.

I goggled "cooperation on gas"

Is that a title?

CowperKettle

Yes

It's just that "on gas" reminded me of "on drugs"

V.V.

Use only "announcing "

CowperKettle

> Two major pharma CEOs discuss cooperation on drugs

V.V.

Without "be"

M.A.R.

17:14

> NATO and EU press ahead with cooperation on cyber defence

user2684291

@CowperKettle Is this supposed to be headlinese?

CowperKettle

yes

M.A.R.

nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_138122.htm

@CowperKettle I think strictly headlinesically speaking, it should either be ''announcing'' or ''to announce''

CowperKettle

@M.A.R. Thank you!

> MAR helps CowperKettle on headlinese

user2684291

@CowperKettle Then sure.

I think "announces" is commoner.

CowperKettle

17:17

maybe they thought that "announcing" is eyecatchinger

user2684291

"More common" is commoner than "commoner".

"Usually monosyllabic adjectives use the inflectional comparative forms."

Haha.

But for some reason, my friend in the UK uses that version.

Is "to chuck a stink" an Australianism?

V.V.

Grants competition announced

EngFan

Is it grammatical to say I am running low on balance

CowperKettle

Spasibo, V.V.

V.V.

I checked

user2684291

17:26

@EngFan Perhaps, but not very idiomatic – at least I've never heard anyone say it.

EngFan

@user2684291: Run low is near to end- correct?

CowperKettle

yes

user2684291

@EngFan Not quite right on the money, but yeah.

:>

V.V.

Found only "on salt"

user2684291

dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/…

EngFan

17:32

@user2684291 : I have heard running low on ,

user2684291

@EngFan Running low on dough?

EngFan

@user2684291 : Oh sorry I mean mobile balance,.

user2684291

@EngFan You're running low on credit.

EngFan

@user2684291: I am not sure about you mean by Credit , if u are referring to the balance in one's account , kind of

M.A.R.

17:49

Mayday, mayday

The site is down.

Confirmed, the site is down

I repeat, the site is down, do you copy?

user2684291

@EngFan The number of "units" your operator charges you for. These units can be used, e.g., to send texts; e.g., 1 credit = 1 message, and 1 USD = 1 credit – so if you buy 100 credits for 100 bucks, you can send 100 messages.

M.A.R.

@user2684291 We're usually inclineder to twist language in chat than write the version correct

user2684291

@M.A.R. Alles klar.

M.A.R.

19:21

CowperKettle

19:31

Word of the Night: obelism

Why do some biotech documents use this symbol to indicate range: ÷?

How is it different from the humble dash?

Damkerng T.

19:46

@CowperKettle I guess I haven't seen any such biotech doc!

Joe Pinsonault

and how is that symbol different from %

and if it's just a division symbol, why not use /

user2684291

20:26

@JoePinsonault The percent sign has zeros flanking the oblique line, whereas the obelus has a dot on each side of a horizontal line.

Well, I guess in Arabic, where a zero resembles a dot, the percent sign would have dots, but it'd still have an oblique line.

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