Language Overflow

Jim Reynolds

03:07

@Abcd This sounds like you were smoking something.

We often see this described something like this: My breath turned white in the cold air.

yubraj

03:22

Hi everyone!

What are the differences between illness and sickess ?

Are they same ? And what about "disease" ?

mike

perspective, apparently.

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Q: What is the difference between "illness" and "disease"?

Are there any differences when those words are used? By whom they are used? Google n-gram All English English fiction: I would guess that "illness" is rather a term which is used in spoken language and "disease" is more formal as both seem to be equally common in fiction, but I am not sur...

Disease refers to the medical establishment's perspective;
sickness refers to society's perspective,
and illness is the way the patient perceives their condition.

Interesting answer - I wouldn't necessarily have distinguished in that way

Jim Reynolds

03:38

@Færd Good education is essential to democracy.

Good education provides opportunities for students to connect what is being learned to prior knowledge.

gyazo.com/91e0948b56fa8903141c9e68a2396df1

We leave out articles (use the zero article) with plural countable nouns and uncountable nouns when we talk about something in general.

Oil is less dense than water.

Good oil makes good salad dressing.

yubraj

04:37

@mike I liked the first answee and upvoted

Damkerng T.

04:58

0

Q: Attempt used with zero article

Always she drives the soul to new attempt Attempt is a countable noun. Why in this context it is used with zero atricle? "to new attempt", not "to a new attempt"?

articles zero-article

Because it's from a dialect that people might use works for work and drop articles routinely?

"Always she drives the soul to new attempt" is obviously an attempt to sound literary.

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A: What is a non-vulgar synonym for this swear word meaning "an enormous amount"?

Humans have been producing social meaning from language nearly as long as we've been producing excremental material from nutrition. We might not need many mental steps to move from buttload to shitload and, from that juncture, produce a picture, feeling or perception that some would find vulgar...

This answers seems far too verbose. — DoritoStyle yesterday

Hehe!

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A: "Thank you for the good advice" - can this refer to a single piece of advice?

I'm not really sure whether taking "the" off is ungrammatical or not, it seems so to me, but if not, someone correct me, please. "the" refers to the advice that your friend gave you, which is: You can use friGate, it's a nice addon that will help you. It may be considered to be an advice, since ...

To this reader, it sounds like the answer suggests that we have to use:

> a) Thanks for advice. or

> b) Thanks for the good advice.

And these are wrong:

> c) Thanks for the advice.

> d) Thanks for good advice.

Jim Reynolds

05:15

@DamkerngT. Some would say that too verbose is redundant, itself exemplifying verbosity. But I am not one of those some.

Damkerng T.

:D

Jim Reynolds

We don't say Thanks for advice.

Damkerng T.

It's in the answer.

Oh! The exact phrase was Thank you for advice.

Jim Reynolds

I thought you were referring to yourself as this reader.

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds Yes.

I meant To this reader, after reading this answer, ...

Jim Reynolds

05:17

We don't say Thank you for advice either.

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds That was my point!

Jim Reynolds

O.O

Damkerng T.

10 mins ago, by Damkerng T.

To this reader, it sounds like the answer suggests that we have to use:

Jim Reynolds

OK. Gotcha.

Not Gotcha! ... sigh

Damkerng T.

LOL

Jim Reynolds

05:19

My English so poor

Damkerng T.

Is that a neg technique? :P

Jim Reynolds

Never heard of it

CowperKettle

Good morn

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds Aww... you gave me a link to a page about the neg technique some months ago! (But I was just being silly in my comment.)

@CowperKettle Looks like Russia and the US are going to walk hand in hand, judging from the tweets.

Jim Reynolds

Russian Christmas, huh? Sounds evil to me. EVIL!!!!

Damkerng T.

05:25

LOL

Jim Reynolds

@Cowp How many children do you eat on that day?

CowperKettle

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Jim Reynolds

Russia has spies. AND computers. It's all over CNN and the New York Times,

Who knew?

I'm in shock.

CowperKettle

I know so little of computer hacking that all these news are very vague to me. I can't see the proofs.

It's like those "chemical weapons" of Saddam Hussein that in the end turned out non-existent.

I'm sure Russia uses hackers, so why not use hackers to counterhack Russian hackers? I dunno.

Jim Reynolds

If Obama had listened more carefully to Angela Merkel's telephone conversations, maybe we could have picked up this information sooner.

I have my eye on @V.V.'s online time patterns.

Very suspicious.

I only see her online when I'm online.

O.O

@DamkerngT. I had completely forgotten.

yubraj

06:56

I don't understand the use of 'having' here in the sentence when @DamkerngT. Says
"I'm okay with telling a learner that it's "spee' boat", but "speeb boat", I'm not sure what we'll get after telling a learner that and having them pronounce it back to us."

"Having them pronounce it back to us." Is it causative use of "have" ?

V.V.

08:14

@JimReynolds it's not me, it's my sleepy ghost. Hi.

Yubraj, it's causative.

V.V.

09:05

@SpringLearner, thank you.

It's minus 14ºC with lots of snow.

SpringLearner

09:41

@V.V. Thats great

I like snow fall but unfortunately the place where I live in has never faced any type of snowfall

I can only enjoy snow falls in movies

it is 28 celsius in my city

Stack Exchange

10:19

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Q: Please reopen the "advice, software and information" question

I keep it short and simple. Please reopen this question Why are "software", "advice", and "information" uncountable? I think it is well-structured, thoughtful question that deserves an equally well-structured and thoughtful answer. I would like to place a generous bounty on it, because I am no...

discussion reopen

Damkerng T.

10:52

@JimReynolds Aww...

CowperKettle

Damkerng T.

(I just dropped in shortly before going out again real soon.)

CowperKettle

Today's Bicycle Parade in Moscow

Damkerng T.

Hi! @CowperKettle -- Nice uniform!

CowperKettle

it is minus 30°C there now

Damkerng T.

10:52

Oh! Okay!

CowperKettle

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Damkerng T.

@yubraj You got the right idea. :-)

CowperKettle

It is minus 22°C in Yekaterinburg now, and it will hit minust 30C by midnight

Damkerng T.

It's a bit cold over here too, 25C. Just 25, not minus 25, though. :P

Okay, I'm leaving. To the garden! o/

Hello, and see you later! @Mick

Stack Exchange

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Q: Why are "software", "advice", and "information" uncountable?

Sometimes in English I encounter words which are uncountable, while they may be countable in my native language causing some mistakes in my sentences, and I wonder why they are uncountable. For example "software"; we look at any application, a software (as it is used by software companies) I...

grammaticality uncountable-nouns history

CowperKettle

11:09

tjournal.ru/…

Pictures from the bicycle parade

The website for some reason is blocked in Russia. Luckily I have friGate installed (0:

> "Rated voltage could also be the maximum voltage that a type of wire, plug, socket or circuit breaker is designed for. In that case, the rated voltage may be considerably higher than the nominal voltage.
Nominal voltage is the standard value that is used when referring to a voltage level. If the nominal voltage is 220 volts, the actual voltage might be 5 or 10% higher or lower."

I wonder if the above is a correct description of rated vs nominal

mike

Looks about right

rated voltage is the maximum operating voltage of a device

in theory at least - in practice one can usually push these limits, though it's not recommended

nominal voltage is what we state the voltage to be

in real life situations, voltage always fluctuates somwhat

somewhat*

looking at the meter across from me right now, the voltage in my apartment is fluctuating between 208 and 211V

but the nominal voltage is 220V

Damkerng T.

11:34

0

Q: What is the difference between Sport(n).. Etc

What is the difference between Sport(n), sports(adj), sporting(adj) , sporty(adj) , sportive(adj) ? And what is their usage? And do we say sports clothes or sporting clothes?

word-usage word-meaning adjectives word-difference nouns

Hmm... off-topic?

mike

Don't know about off topic, but there is nothing in that question that can't be answered by throwing sport at a dictionary

Whether that's acceptable or not, I'm not sure

Damkerng T.

nods

CowperKettle

11:55

@mike thank you!

Can I write: "The autoclave has a display that reflects the sterilization process" or it should be display device?

mike

a display is fine

CowperKettle

thanks!

Mari-Lou A

Hello everyone, I would like to talk to a mod, if I may. Preferably in private, if that's possible. @J.R, @snailplane or @Colleen, I don't have any preferences :)

Damkerng T.

yeah you right but I didn't want to waste time asking 2 related questions under different titles.. plus, they'd have a more base about the questions to answer. — Cavid Hummatov 2 mins ago

Mari-Lou A

@ColleenV sorry, I got the username wrong.

Damkerng T.

12:08

Hmm... what you ask is what you get, the ?

It looks like we're slowly becoming another forum for learners.

ColleenV

@Mari-LouA Howdy - give me a minute to set up a room

Damkerng T.

s/the \?/then\?/

user2684291

12:59

Word of the day: ambilevous

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@DamkerngT. And that's why normal users are given powers to moderate it.

Damkerng T.

@user2684291 If everyone has an equal voice and acts in unison, I imagine that we'll surely become yet another forum soon, because the number of learners are more than the number of answerers.

But I imagine that that won't happen soon because not many learners participate in moderation activities.

Slowly, maybe.

user2684291

13:22

@DamkerngT. A few votes are required to close a question, I think. Experienced enquirers know what sort of questions are appropriate.

Damkerng T.

@user2684291 I hope so. I suppose so.

user2684291

Down-voting with a complementary comment explaining why the question is bad disencourages the enquirer to ask such questions henceforth. However, answering such questions accommodates such behavior and that's what's wrong, I suppose, and I admit to partaking in that in comment form because I feel the learner sometimes isn't aware of good online dictionaries intended for learners.

I asked a question here or maybe on EL&U once a few years ago, and someone gave me a link to a dictionary, and then I realized those things exist.

s/disencourages/discourages/

CowperKettle

13:47

Word of the Day: marg (Indian English: road or street)

Damkerng T.

14:13

Ah! Interestingly, it's a ค in Thai! (มารค)

Looks like most (all?) g's in Indian are translated to Thai ค (which sounds like a /k/).

@user2684291 I think we don't have any real consensus. Some users seem to think we should answer all questions. Some think it's better to striving at becoming a library of good questions-answers.

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A: He "left" a comment on website this morning vs "had left"

Using the past tense would be more proper, although both can work. Ms. Koo. one of our regular customers, left a question regarding the usage of the new vacuum cleaner on our website this morning. Past perfect tense must be used when you are talking about two actions that happened in th...

Because the answer refers to really-learn-english.com/examples-of-past-perfect-tense.html. I guess the info on really-learn-english.com is misleading.

"must be used (when you are talking about two actions that happened in the past, one after the other)"? No, I don't think so. — Damkerng T. 1 min ago

@Damkerng T. It doesn't necessarily need to follow this order, but it must be two actions that happened in the past, but not necessarily in that order. Do you think it might get the OP confused, should I cut this part out? — Davyd Diniz 6 mins ago

I'm not sure what you were trying to say. Is it "It doesn't necessarily need to follow this order (that it [the past perfect] must be used, but if it's so it must be used) ...", or "It doesn't necessarily need to follow this order (as in you don't need to use the past perfect if one action happened after another) ..."? In any case, do you think a sentence/utterance such as He met her before I did is incorrect because it doesn't use the past perfect? — Damkerng T. 1 min ago

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A: He "left" a comment on website this morning vs "had left"

My explanation might not that clear but I will try to explain For Past Simple it is the situation the happened once and it has already end. So He left a comment I think should be more proper as the previous comment.

Why did this get -1?

Because it isn't prose-like?

CowperKettle

14:31

I'm translating a User Requirements Specification document, and in the section titled "Technical specifications" (of the autoclave the company intends to buy, but knows not yet what brand and what model), there are a lot of short sentences in a list, like this: "Has a loading trolley", "Has temperature and pressure sensors". Would that sound okay in English?

Damkerng T.

I'm pretty sure I've seen similar specs before!

CowperKettle

And would "has" look okay there?

Or maybe in English they write something like "A loading trolley" (without has)?

Damkerng T.

I don't know if I can say that, but it seems to come from everywhere. Hong Kong, Singapore, India, the US, Germany, etc.

CowperKettle

Or "Comes with a loading trolley"?

Damkerng T.

Hmm... between comes with and has, I'd personally go with has.

CowperKettle

14:33

nods

Me too

mike

if they are requirements, are either of them necessary?

CowperKettle

Yes, they are all requirements, and all are necessary points.

mike

REQUIREMENTS:
Loading trolley
temperature sensors
pressure sensors

sorry - I mean, is has or comes with (or any other variation) necessary

Damkerng T.

In my experience, it usually happens in statements of compliance, and the vendors would try to align the specs of their products to the SoC.

CowperKettle

The whole document is called a URS (User Requirements Specification)

The sub-section is called, literally in Russian, Technical characteristics (tekhnicheskie kharakteristiki)

Damkerng T.

14:35

nods -- Makes sense.

CowperKettle

The whole document is big, and these "characteristics" is only part of it

Damkerng T.

Must be a big project! (^_^)

CowperKettle

I think that "has" will be understood perfectly, I was only unsure about the style

Okay, I'll leave "has" in place for now (0:

Damkerng T.

:D

@Damkerng T. Like: It doesn't have to be two things that happened one after other, you can specific two differents actions in the past, but in order to use the past perfect, you need to specify two actions that both happened in the past. Both He met her before I did it or He had met her before I did it are correct, although it is rare to find past perfect tenses used before verb to be. But it works fine too — Davyd Diniz 6 mins ago

So you disagree with this part in your answer, "Past perfect tense must be used when you are talking about two actions that happened in the past, one after the other", I think, right? — Damkerng T. 45 secs ago

Um... for the record, I don't think He met her before I did it should be used in the meaning of He met her before I did.

user2684291

@DamkerngT. I'm in the process of editing the answer, but it's still useless.

For starters, it doesn't specify why the past simple is preferred over the past perfect, which is what is being asked.

Damkerng T.

14:40

nods -- It jumps right to the answer, i.e., the simple past.

I'm pretty sure if StoneyB wrote an answer to that question, we could expect to see the word "context"! :P

mike

nothing wrong with context :D

Damkerng T.

:D

mike

(I've noticed I've been using that word quite a bit lately)

Damkerng T.

It's the key to lots of things in English grammar!

@Damkerng T. Your sentence is placed in the past tense, you just didn't mention when you did such thing, but it could have been written this way: He had met her before I did homework yesterday. Or: Yesterday, I had done my homework before he met her. — Davyd Diniz 1 min ago

scratching my head

Now I wonder if he knows or doesn't know the use of the past perfect.

user2684291

I'm convinced he does not.

Damkerng T.

14:45

And I wonder if he's thinking He met her before I did (no it, no homework, no yesterday) is grammatical.

It looks almost like he doesn't think it's grammatical because he keeps suggesting some other alternatives.

user2684291

I've edited the answer but, gee, it had to undergo a complete transmogrification, so to speak.

Damkerng T.

@Damkerng T. - In few cases, your statement could be placed both in past perfect tense: I had met her before he had done his homework: this one implies to mean that I met her first, and he did his homework after I met her. I had done my homework before he had met her: this one implies to mean the same as above, but I did my homework before he met her. — Davyd Diniz 3 mins ago

Um...

I suppose that I can't get my message across.

And it was nothing more than my first comment!

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A: He "left" a comment on website this morning vs "had left"

My explanation might not be that clear but I will try to provide an explanation for the past simple: it is used in the situation that happened once in the past and has already ended. So He left a comment I think should be more proper, as the previous answer says.

Poor thing! -3 already!

user2684291

^^

mike

He gets quite entrenched when it comes to his answers, I've noticed

and digs in even further

oh well.

Damkerng T.

nods

CowperKettle

14:56

books.google.ru/…

I wonder what is bleed - any line that removes the condensate from the autoclave?

Why not "drain"?

Why not just "condensed steam removal pipe"?

Good evening, @snailplane

Does "bleed" imply that the liquid is removed using the gravitation force, i.e. by itself?

It "bleeds out"?

Anonymous

I don't think gravity is implied in bleed or bleed out

Anonymous

You could bleed out in space

CowperKettle

I found this mention of 'bleed system'

I'm trying to translate a sentence from Russian, and the technical terminology used gives me a headache

mike

I always thought that when you bleed a system, you're removing air from it

CowperKettle

The Russian sentence says: "Has an otvod for removal of steam condensate"

And this Russian word "otvod" can mean just anything.

Basically "otvod" means "the leading of something out"

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Multitran has like 60 translations, wildly different

For instance, in pipe production, an "otvod" is "elbow", a piece of pipe that is bent.

user2684291

15:03

"Otvod" = "drain".

In the most general sense.

CowperKettle

I thought so, and then I came across "bleed" and wondered what the difference is

user2684291

"b. : a narrow opening in the surface of an air inlet through which low-energy boundary-layer air is bled off from the main stream" Does this make sense?

CowperKettle

@Man_From_India Is it really still hard to obtain cash money in India? My sister says that if I send her money via MoneyGram, she will not get it in cash form, but only as a transfer to her local card, and even that will take 3 days and two visits to banks, and will be a pain in the ass

user2684291

"a device or arrangement that permits bleeding (as an escape valve or the device controlling the extraction of steam from a turbine)" This, maybe.

Damkerng T.

> The road was designed with slalom, which has been created with Pylon Alley.

> ell.stackexchange.com/q/114918/3281

Anyone understand the sentence?

user2684291

15:21

Is eating a small, oblate citrus and doesn't know what it's called.

yubraj

Hi....everyone!

@DamkerngT. Ok I understood that It's causative.

Damkerng T.

Yay!

Man_From_India

@CowperKettle It's still problematic here. chat with me in private if you need any help. Do you have my email ID?

yubraj

I have heard one think...that only one imports key to speak a language fluently is to think the language itself, not to speak by translating the language from our own language. Let's apply it to speak fluently, do we all think in English and speak ? Or just translate it from our own native language?

user2684291

15:38

@yubraj I'm actually not sure what that means.

OK, maybe I do. I can't really think well in German, and I notice that I'm pulling words from my first language and English. This is because I don't know German words well. I can't make that leap yet.

CowperKettle

@Man_From_India No, I don't have your email. Thus far it's not that urgent, and we decided that I will buy my sis different stuff direct from my Russian Sberbank account. (0: I can give you my email - I will show it for 3 seconds in the chat

Thank you!

Man_From_India

drop me a mail

CowperKettle

Already dropped (0:

user2684291

15:54

subscribes Man_From_India to Cat Facts.

CowperKettle

BBL

yubraj

16:05

@user2684291 I mean, Do non-native speakers of English Language speak English language fluently by thinking in their own language or by thinking in the English itself ? have heard that to speak English fluently, one needs to think in English. Do all non-native fluent English speakers think in English (not in their own Language) before speaking it ?
What I need to speak English fluently , thinking in English or to translate it ?

Færd

@JimReynolds Yes. I guess it boils down to that. I was having trouble figuring out in what ways all those a good education examples were not general in meaning. Maybe they refer to the education that individuals receive, as opposed to the concept of education or the whole education system etc.

Thanks.

user2684291

@yubraj I believe they think in English, but it's not something you can just turn on and off, now can you? It's natural.

Damkerng T.

@Man_From_India Done!

Færd

And my main question, I think, was why would someone say that in those more specific cases of education, knowledge, etc you must not use the uncountable form.

Damkerng T.

@yubraj I know that I think in English most of the time when I speak or write in English.

user2684291

16:12

@Færd They didn't say "must", they said most often.

Færd

Please refer to the link.

Damkerng T.

But yes, I still can't always think in English. For example, I can't describe how people walk in some hundred ways, or how people sleep, how people treat each other, and so on, like I can in my first language. So compared to my first language, my English is somewhat more limited. -- Still, in some cases, especially when it's about technical stuff, English could be my first choice. I suppose it's because I "acquired" it that way.

user2684291

"With certain uncountable nouns – especially nouns referring to human emotions and mental activity – we often use a(n) when we are limiting their meaning in some way."

Færd

That's not what I just linked to.

user2684291

I know.

@Færd We often use this, NOT that. (:

Anonymous

16:14

I write a(n)

user2684291

I copied that.

Færd

@user2684291 The NOTted phrase is printed strikethrough to indicate its unacceptability.

Incidentally, how can you do that in here? Type strikethrough?

Jim Reynolds

Gimme an a(n)!

@Færd It was unnotted?

user2684291

L̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶.̶

Damkerng T.

(cont.) About thinking in another language, I suppose we can think in another language even before we're fluent or proficient in that language! For example, I can understand daijobu or ikuyo or ne without translation. -- I think this is normal, and it happens to anyone.

Man_From_India

16:17

@DamkerngT. Thanks for your mail DT ;-)

Damkerng T.

@Man_From_India (^_^)

Færd

@JimReynolds No!

> My parents wanted me to have a good education. (NOT ~~to have good education~~)

Jim Reynolds

My parents wanted me to have water. My parents wanted me to have a water.

Færd

Both work, right?

user2684291

Yes, but with a different meaning.

Jim Reynolds

16:22

But not education.

Færd

> This is water. (Using the uncountable form for a specific thing.)

user2684291

"My parents wanted me to have education." indeed sounds off, it's as if they want me to have all of it.

Jim Reynolds

It could work in a certain context.

Færd

It sounds off for a different reason, if it does.

@JimReynolds So, you agree that water and education follow different patterns, right?

When it comes to specific examples?

user2684291

@JimReynolds That sentence? Could you exemplify?

Jim Reynolds

16:27

Like if my parents moved from a place that had no schools to one that did, they might have moved there because they wanted me to have education. But we would normally not use it.

Færd

Bingo.

Jim Reynolds

Education and water are particularized in different ways, I guess becuase one is abstract and the other tangible.

A (glass) of water.

But not a "piece" of education.

Færd

Hmm.

user2684291

@JimReynolds Ah, I see. So it's similar to "water". "They wanted the place to have water, so they installed..."

Is that the meaning?

Jim Reynolds

...installed clouds.

Yeah.

Færd

16:31

outstalled

Jim Reynolds

They wanted me to have (access to) education.

I think, in that sense, They wanted me to have education is grammatical, if a bit unusual.

Færd

@JimReynolds That's kinda like the explanation that the author gives. I was wondering if there was any reason behind it.

I think you can't always ask for a reason for why a pattern exists.

Damkerng T.

@Færd Surely, to make English harder to learn. :P

Hey, look who's here!

M.A.R.

Who?

Damkerng T.

Welcome to the room, @fastman92!

M.A.R.

16:36

Thank you

Damkerng T.

@M.A.R. Well, you know who! Yoo-hoo! :D

M.A.R.

I see you like a bearded man with your new WinterBash hat

fastman92

Hi. I'm a bit new here. I have just got an access to the StackExchange chat.

M.A.R.

Hello

Færd

Having a bomb, huh?

Damkerng T.

16:37

@M.A.R. I'm not sure what it is! It looks nice, so I wear it. :D

M.A.R.

@Færd I have a mid-term geology exam tomorrow

Jim Reynolds

Found on google: At my grandma's place, I got two things which my other siblings never got; I got education, quality love and support from my grandma. I went to school and was ...

Damkerng T.

How are things going in your life? @M.A.R. -- BTW, lots of people asked about you.

Færd

I don't hate hats, but I had to lie in order not to see them.

M.A.R.

@DamkerngT. I admitted defeat. Life took over and departed me from SE in a dramatic manner

Oh man I feel so alienated to typing in English now

Damkerng T.

16:38

@M.A.R. Oh, life is important. I hope things went fine with you.

M.A.R.

@DamkerngT. Like Mari? I remember I promised to take part in a TRE.

Damkerng T.

@M.A.R. I'm not sure if I can remember the names, but quite a few!

M.A.R.

@DamkerngT. Actually, things went better with life.

My studying improved.

Jim Reynolds

@DamkerngT. I didn't. I was afraid mentioning him might conjure him up from the underworld.

M.A.R.

My self-esteem improved.

Damkerng T.

16:40

@JimReynolds Haha!

@M.A.R. Good! Great!

M.A.R.

My introvert-ness improved

Færd

@M.A.R. Oh. All because you abstained from SE?

Maybe I should try it too.

M.A.R.

@Færd Heh, not really. I studied more and got better results in exams.

Well, better as in increasing 80 to 95 percent.

Færd

Geek.

Nerd.

No, not those.

I wonder how you can translate خرخون.

Jim Reynolds

An increase of 80-to-95 percent, or an increase from 80 to 95 percent?

M.A.R.

16:42

@Færd ''Nerd'' works for me

Jim Reynolds

Please be precise

M.A.R.

@JimReynolds Whichever suits you

Jim Reynolds

Yay!

M.A.R.

OK, there goes my two hours

Jim, I'm only giving you two hours to be snarky.

Make it count

Færd

@M.A.R. You were a nerd before. You upgraded.

M.A.R.

16:44

@Færd MEGAOMEGANERD

That feels nice to say.

Jim Reynolds

Rock on in the real world, bro.

Or grandson, maybe.

M.A.R.

Grandgrandgrand

Jim Reynolds

O.o

That's enough

M.A.R.

Just watched ''Inception''

Færd

Ugh.

M.A.R.

16:46

''Just'' meaning yesterday

Jim Reynolds

Or did it watch you?

o.o

M.A.R.

No no, ''Inception'', not ''The Ring''

CowperKettle

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! @M.A.R.!

yubraj

Nods....@dem @user91

CowperKettle

Happy new year, @M.A.R.!

M.A.R.

16:49

\o/ (We wish you a merry Christmas)5

CowperKettle

Drop me your email address if you wish to keep ties in any way. (0: You've become such a rare element here.

yubraj

Speaking is the key to Learn a language. Let alone writing. Right ?

CowperKettle

@M.A.R. Inception is a nice movie

M.A.R.

Yeah 'cause it's Nolan's.

These days I feel that's the only reason I would enjoy rewatching a movie.

CowperKettle

ah.. I have bad memory for movie directors

Jim Reynolds

16:51

The only reason? We need to go deeper.

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle Well, I was mostly offline.

Don't expect me to regular here any time soon actually.

CowperKettle

@M.A.R. And that was great for you, I hope. I'm trying to keep offline too, but I'm failing at that

Nolan shot "Insomnia" - that was one great film

I never knew who shot it.

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle That's because you don't have a university entrance exam to fight

CowperKettle

@M.A.R. That is a great motivation, and very worthy one.

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle Watched ''Memento''?

CowperKettle

16:54

@M.A.R. Yes. I just noted that he also shot "Memento" - a movie I liked very much

M.A.R.

Waiting a bit for you to realize he shot ''The Dark Knight'' and ''Interstellar'' as well.

Færd

The idea of 'reality' is represented completely differently in Memento and Inception.

CowperKettle

I never watched "The Dark Knight" because I avoid watching movies based on comic books, but maybe it's also great. I liked "Interstellar"

Færd

The latter being more popular, exciting, and of course, faulty.

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle It's great because it's a Nolan movie.

CowperKettle

16:56

nods

A Separation

A Separation (Persian: جدایی نادر از سیمین‎‎ Jodaí-e Nadér az Simín, "The Separation of Nader and Simin") is a 2011 Iranian drama film written and directed by Asghar Farhadi, starring Leila Hatami, Peyman Moaadi, Shahab Hosseini, Sareh Bayat, and Sarina Farhadi. It focuses on an Iranian middle-class couple who separate, and the conflicts that arise when the husband hires a lower-class caregiver for his elderly father, who suffers from Alzheimer's disease. A Separation won the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film in 2012, becoming the first Iranian film to win the award. It received the...

A great Iranian movie

Highly recommended

By me

M.A.R.

Yeah, so far I guess the only great Iranian movie

Færd

Wha?!

CowperKettle

I dunno. I watched too little Iranian movies

M.A.R.

The recent Iranian movies are really prize-hungry though

CowperKettle

the 60 best Iranian movies

M.A.R.

16:59

After the recent ''The Salesman'', I mean

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