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CowperKettle

01:51

I woke up at 5 am and went walking

And I translated the 3rd stanza of that Cossack song

Now I have a full translation, although I'm not satisfied with the 3rd stanza still

Наливаймо, браття, кришталеві чаші / Pour, brothers, crystal bowls

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> Raise your cups, my brothers,
Make the crystal clatter!
Here's to riding bravely
Here's to coming safely
Through the thick of battle

(Hey-hey!
Through the thick and thin,
Through the cannons' din,
Through the rifles' rattle)

Here's to poor Ukraine
Never shedding tears,
Here's to Cossack banners,
Here's to Cossack glory
Lasting through the years

Here's to bitter tears
For that glory spilled
Here's to Cossack blood
For those banners shed
On the battlefield.

Raise your cups, my brothers,
While your hands still serve you,

"Наливаймо, браття!" - Національна капела бандуристів України

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Man_From_India

02:05

@Araucaria a quick search gave me a link that says wh-words with -ever is used to ask very emphatic question.

dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/…

So you were right that whichever does occur in embedded interrogative clause.

Damkerng T.

Let's try another example:

> Whichever moves you do is/are graceful.

(Or, Whichever ways you move is/are graceful.)

CowperKettle

03:22

Розпрягайте хлопці коні - капела бандуристів

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I would like to translate this song

@V.V. What?

yubraj sharma

Hi ....

Why this ell.stackexchange.com/questions/107188/… question is still unanswered?

yubraj sharma

06:10

@DamkerngT. Hi

V.V.

And that,” he broke off, “is, if I mistake not, his knock. Come in.”Mistake not is interesting.

Damkerng T.

Hi! @yubrajsharma, @V.V.

CowperKettle

06:59

@CopperKettle: In the past, winning was been used by some people to mean mining. Instead of mining ore or coal, it is won. In some jurisdictions, when governments mined coal & produced electricity, prior to selling everything to private industry to own & operate, to ensure the government didn't have to abide by it own stringent laws & regulations concerning mines & mining, government owned operations & departments used the terminology of winning coal. — Fred 47 mins ago

CowperKettle

07:26

@V.V. old Germanic word order

Negation by placing "not" after the verb

> And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

V.V.

07:46

Cowp, do they wear rings on the 3d finger,left hand?

CowperKettle

@V.V. who?

V.V.

The British.

CowperKettle

O_O

I've no idea!

Cardinal

09:20

Word of the day: haemorrhage

<US: hemorrhage>

Rathony

09:43

@snailplane Hi, is there Japanese SE chat room?

Anonymous

10:39

Japanese Language

General discussion for japanese.stackexchange.com

Anonymous

You can chat there in Japanese or English

Cardinal

11:10

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Q: Is following sentence to juvenile too be included in GRE essay?

Fame is the name of a game everyone desires.

I cannot understand the title.

It seems the "to" must be replaced by the "too", and vice versa

user17915

11:34

hi

is anyone here?

The General Medical Services (GMS) scheme in Ireland
is a tax funded, means tested, public health insurance
scheme.

What does means tested mean?

Is it this?
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/means-test.asp
(this is the first google hit)

Cardinal

@user17915 I'm not a native, but that does make sense.

user17915

so only those who qualify for financial assistance using this "means testing" method are going to get health insurance?

;

@Cardinal is that what it means?

Stack Exchange

11:52

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Q: using " to be living" with the verb"hope"

We had hoped to be living in our new house by now, but the builders are still working on it. UPDATED: I mean what is semantically the difference between to live and to be living there?? Why don't we use living or just to live there instead? What is more, would you show me a resource for...

verbs gerunds complements progressive-aspect

2

Q: Shall I use 'is' or 'are'?

What form of to be would be right to use in this case? Why drug abuse in general and cannabis consumption in particular is/are dangerous for your health.

singular-vs-plural

Cardinal

13:35

@user17915 I think it means that that corporation use that method. I am not sure, let's wait for the natives.

V.V.

16:05

Morning Snailplane, evening all.

Anonymous

Good morning :-)

V.V.

That second question is/are doesn't have a single answer, it seems.

Araucaria

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A: “It’s very rare that…” or “It’s very rarely that…”

Short answer: The Original Poster's sentence using the adverb rarely is an it-cleft construction. The clause following the adverb is a relative clause which has gaps in it. The Original Poster's sentence using the adjective rare is an extraposition. The clause following this adjective is not a r...

Light reading for anyone who's bored ...

Man_From_India

@Araucaria are you there?

I found something in CGEL about that whichever ones you choose. You remember tha question, right?

On page 1072 it says -ever series of forms occurs freely in fused relatives, but they are generally not permitted in interrogatives.

There is only one exception, that CGEL mentions. And it says it is in exhaustive conditional adjuncts that it occurs (it's interrogative).

Araucaria

16:22

@Man_From_India Yes, that's what I remember, but that seems to clash with the other info you found right? Or maybe it's that it's a different kind of ever? (shrugs)

@Man_From_India I've been working on that recently. Got to go to the pub with my students. Ciao all!

Man_From_India

I have to read what exhaustive conditional adjuncts is. And you linked to a very good answer of yours. I was searching for it for a long time.

Araucaria

@Man_From_India See you MFI! Speak soon :)

Man_From_India

Quirk et al, I think, says adjuncts can be placed in the position of rarely in it's rarely that....

ok see you. have fun :-)

Cardinal

17:30

> Em dashes also substitute for something missing. For example, in a bibliographic list, rather than repeating the same author over and over again, three consecutive em dashes (also known as a 3-em dash) stand in for the author’s name.

WoW, I didn't know that.

chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/…

Anonymous

17:46

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A: Can "I are" be used instead of "I am"?

@khl_rm, it is not correct at all from the point of view grammatical, he might have committed a mistake the correct is I am "you are smarter than I am" it is the right answer.

Anonymous

Why does this answer begin with "@khl_rm, "? That doesn't appear to be the name of anyone who's posted there so far. Have I missed something?

Anonymous

It looks almost like the poster's own name.

Anonymous

18:02

@CowperKettle My latest TSH is 3.80

Rathony

@Araucaria It cleft is one of the most controversial thins in English as far as I know.

I understand why BillJ said it is not It-cleft.

@NathanTuggy Hi, Nathan. Were you offended by my comments yesterday?

Nathan Tuggy

@Rathony Not really, although I was a little frustrated. I don't know why they were all deleted.

CowperKettle

@snailplane oh

That is high

You should consult your endo doctor and maybe take some L-thyro

Rathony

@NathanTuggy Exactly. I raised the issue to SE staff and we will know. ELL moderators are crossing the line that they should not cross. I can't stand it any more.

They think they can do everything they want. I will let them know they can't

Anonymous

@CowperKettle I see her next week

CowperKettle

18:14

@snailplane Good! They usually make you take blood for anti-TPO antibodies and T3, T4

and some other antibodies sometimes

But they might have other customs in California

BBL... dishwashing

and general cleaning

Rathony

@NathanTuggy It's really a pity we can't discuss what we want to discuss. Something is seriously wrong with ELL moderators.

Nathan Tuggy

@Rathony I'm inclined to think it was more a one-off mistake, myself.

Rathony

Let's talk about it later.

Anonymous

I really can't figure out what you two are talking about.

Rathony

@NathanTuggy I don't think so. They should be warned. Enough is enough.

See you.

Nathan Tuggy

18:20

@snailplane A mod deleted the initial back-and-forth between myself and Rathony on my recent meta question. Neither of us is sure why.

Anonymous

Oh, on meta. That's why I can't find it.

Anonymous

I was looking at lists of deleted comments on ELL.

Anonymous

@NathanTuggy I don't know either, but I'll pass that on.

Nathan Tuggy

Fair enough, thanks

Anonymous

@CowperKettle Well, I don't know. I am always a bit cold, though.

CowperKettle

18:29

@snailplane But it's not a very serious thing usually. I guess that sometimes it goes up during a bout of disease (judging by myself), and even if they do find hypothyroidism, it's easy-peasy lemon squeezy to cure it nowadays. (0:

Anonymous

@CowperKettle Easy-peasy lemon squeezy is actually kind of fascinating morphologically.

CowperKettle

@snailplane I noticed that I had cold hands last September-October, and in December they found that my TSH was 6.4

@snailplane Yes, because it has "lemon"

Anonymous

How is your T4?

CowperKettle

Strangely, my T3 and T4 never went out of the normal zone

So it was called "subclinical hypothyroidism"

Anonymous

I really don't mean to ignore the meta discussion about the deleted comments here, but I wasn't the one who deleted them and I can't really discuss it meaningfully.

Anonymous

18:32

Without working on my mindreading skills, anyway :-)

Anonymous

@CowperKettle A-ha

Anonymous

My T4 is okay too.

CowperKettle

I downloaded a heap of reviews on SH, and found that doctors around the world cannot decide whether to treat it, or to wait until TSH hits 10

But I felt much better even after starting on 25 mcg L-thyro

Anonymous

I think my doctor will probably decide not to treat it again.

CowperKettle

I just upped my dose slowly until my TSH reached 1.5

In Russia, you can go to the pharmacy and just buy any drug

I noticed that I can jog for 50 minutes instead of just 30

Today I jogged for 50 minutes, say

Anonymous

18:35

@CowperKettle Interesting

CowperKettle

And for some strange reason my TSH increase coincided with some muscle (or blood vessel?) condition. I was limping last fall, could not run across the street if the traffic light was blinking.

It all went away when I started on L-thyro

So it was no jogging for several months.. until January

Physiology is so complex

They said it was "just a coincidence". Well. Could have been, of course. O_O

@snailplane Yes, because they are afraid to "overtreat". They take the "wait and see" stance.

@snailplane Well, you need to show a recipe for some drugs. But you might say "I forgot it at home", and in some pharmacies they will say, "well, okay, be more mindful next time" and sell the drug.

Anonymous

@CowperKettle Hahaha, that's pretty different from here, I think.

Anonymous

I think we would usually say prescription rather than recipe.

CowperKettle

@snailplane yes, prescription, thank you

It's only some really strong drugs, like Benzobarbital (for epilepsy) or some drug containing strong painkillers that may be abused, that the rules are really kept

@snailplane But I guess there are ways to obtain stuff in the USA too

One might purchase drugs over the interwebs

Anonymous

Oh, um, I'm quite sure there are, but I'm not really willing to do that.

CowperKettle

18:48

nods

Good night!

I started reading on Benzobarbital, switched to Limunal, and came across this:

> In 1939 a German family asked Adolf Hitler to have their disabled son killed, the five-month-old boy was given a lethal dose of Luminal after Hitler sent his own doctor to examine him.

That's some family.

Nathan Tuggy

@CowperKettle Eugenics powers go!

But seriously, almost everyone at the time, but especially the Germans, were a lot more open to the idea of eugenics.

Including removing the "unfit" or "degenerate" from the population by any means necessary.

CowperKettle

I read in some scientific journal that if 100% of people suffering from psychosis would be killed for 100 years, year after year, then this might decrease the incidence by 1%, and as soon as killing stops, the incidence will return to the baseline

Nathan Tuggy

Fun.

CowperKettle

Because the genetics turned out to be much more complex than previously thought

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