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Lawrence

02:20

@CowperKettle I disagree. "After" isn't inclusive.

Your second paragraph has it the wrong way round. "After July" excludes that July (starting 1st August, as you correctly note). "Until July" includes July (ending 31st July). That is, unless they intended to say "Until July starts", which then excludes July. — Lawrence 2 mins ago

Student

03:19

@DamkerngT. I've tried to add year to those aforementioned months to understand easier.

The new area code is scheduled to be put into service next September (2016).
From that time until the following July (2017), there will be a "permissive dialing period" when callers can use either the old area code or the new area code.
After July (2017), use of the new area code will be mandatory.
1. The new area code is scheduled to be put into service next September 2016.
2. September 2016 – July 2017 callers can use either the old area code or the new area code.
3. After July 2017 use of the new area code will be mandatory.

Student

03:49

2

Q: was buy , was to buy, or was buying

The first thing I did was buy the tickets to go to Europe. The first thing I did was to buy the tickets to go to Europe. The first thing I did was buying the tickets to go to Europe. Can someone tell me which of the following sentences is correct and why?

infinitive-vs-gerund

I wont choose (1) :) How's yours? :D

Student

04:04

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Q: What is the meaning & tense/verb phrase of: 'I had been away for almost five years'

I have been studying tenses/verb phrases but am completely lost when there is no action to speak of and cannot find what this would go under. Is it more than just past tense? Also, what would you describe to be the meaning; anything other than describing what was happening up until this point, co...

tense phrase-meaning verb

Is that really difficult to understand?

CowperKettle

06:00

Sawasdee khrap!

> First, it’s the 11th straight month to break the previous monthly heat record, according to NASA. In other words, in 2015, the hottest October ever took place, and it was followed by the hottest November ever, and then by the hottest December ever—and this sequence continued right up to the present.

theatlantic.com/notes/2016/09/the-hottest-august-ever/499847

CowperKettle

07:01

Word of the day: novel new drugs O_O

Anonymous

Seems redundant. Redundant, too.

CowperKettle

(0:

It's from an FDA report

Cardinal

07:26

She lay ------------- .

1. in her bed
2. on her bed

Student

07:56

@Cardinal I've seen ENSs use both.

Damkerng T.

@Student Personally, I think it's a rather vague way to write such a thing. It frees them from the responsibility of what has to happen in July.

Student

@CowperKettle To add the redundancy: Novel new drugs is a novelty :) :)

Damkerng T.

Technically, I think they could even delay their job to not only after July, but after August, October, and so on, as well, in case they happen to have delay it.

Student

@DamkerngT. but in my opinion the word "following" refers to July, next year.

Damkerng T.

@Student That would make sense, but July next year when?

That's why I think it's rather vague.

Student

08:01

@DamkerngT. I've made my own assumption.

Damkerng T.

FWIW, I agree with stangdon:

I think it's very ambiguous. To me, "after July" means "beginning August 1". I would not call July 1 "after July". If they meant that, they should have said "after the beginning of July". — stangdon 13 hours ago

Student

The new area code is scheduled to be put into service next September.
From that time (September) **until the following July**, there will be a "permissive dialing period" when callers can use either the old area code or the new area code.
**After July** , use of the new area code will be mandatory.

@Cardinal She lays ----------- .

Damkerng T.

09:26

@Student She *lays in/on her bed is ungrammatical, actually. (It should be either She lies or She lay.)

@Cardinal Either is fine, depending on how you look at it. But if you removed her, you would better use She lay in bed.

Cardinal

@DamkerngT. I see, thanks. I thought on must be used because we lie on a surface, though

Damkerng T.

09:50

I think beds in Europe were different and it looked more like in.

Even today, we could think of it as in because of blankets and quilts.

Student

@DamkerngT. Thanks Damkerng! :) However, I've seen they use both in and on :)

Damkerng T.

@Student Only when it's used non-idiomatically.

The idiom is in bed.

But either in the bed or on the bed is fine.

Student

10:04

@DamkerngT. When I said "I've seen they (ENSs) use both"; it means I know those who do both in person.

Damkerng T.

@Student You mean you've heard they say She lays on bed or something like that?

Student

10:17

@DamkerngT. both "on" and "in" (the) bed.

Damkerng T.

That's interesting. (only the "on bed" alternative, I mean.)

What's their dialect?

Stack Exchange

12:28

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Q: "on opposite sides of" vs. "on the opposite sides of"

From Chemguide: The most likely example of geometric isomerism you will meet at an introductory level is but-2-ene. In one case, the CH3 groups are on opposite sides of the double bond, and in the other case they are on the same side. Would it seem strange to a native speaker of English if ...

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Damkerng T.

12:55

@StackExchange Strange. Why is this one a one-box?!

Oh, a bounty!

V.V.

13:14

Privet. Dam!

A nice question, Kettle.

Damkerng T.

13:26

@V.V. Privet!

CowperKettle

14:21

@V.V. Thank you. An old question. I just want people to vote up the best answer, so I set up a bounty

Sawasdee evening, @DamkerngT.!

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Zdorovo and sawasdee khrap!

Damkerng T.

16:27

vroom, vroom, vroom ...

(A robot was flying by the room.)

Damkerng T.

16:49

Word of the Day: ginseng

(E.g., Tienchi ginseng, aka Tienchi flower, aka en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panax_notoginseng)

(Yet Another) Word of the Day: excoriate

CowperKettle

17:50

@DamkerngT. I knew this word from childhood, only in its Russian form, zhen-shen (женьшень)

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Nice!

CowperKettle

My father collected ginseng roots and we made tincture from them (alcoholic extract)

also from this:

Rhodiola rosea

Rhodiola rosea (commonly golden root, rose root, roseroot, western roseroot, Aaron's rod, Arctic root, king's crown, lignum rhodium, orpin rose) is a perennial flowering plant in the family Crassulaceae. It grows in cold regions of the world, including much of the Arctic, the mountains of Central Asia, scattered in eastern North America from Baffin Island to the mountains of North Carolina, and mountainous parts of Europe, such as the Alps, Pyrenees, and Carpathian Mountains, Scandinavia, Iceland, Great Britain and Ireland. It grows on sea cliffs and on mountains at altitudes up to 2280 meters...

And he collected a bunch of other plants. To make herbal tea and folk remedies

Damkerng T.

Oh, it grows in America and Great Britain, too!

@CowperKettle It's a common belief over here that it's quite good for our health.

CowperKettle

We found it in the Urals, so it must be quite okay for it to grow in the US

@DamkerngT. The same here

Damkerng T.

I think there are some scientific research supporting this, too.

nods

Cardinal

18:22

I am installing LibreOffice on my Windows7 ^_^

High dudes

:-)

Thanks to my SSD drive it didn't take much time!

Have a good night

CowperKettle

18:51

Nice!

@Cardinal - which SSD drive did you choose?

I had OpenOffice, but never heard about LibreOffice. Interesting.

Anonymous

@CowperKettle It's basically the same thing.

Anonymous

Just newer and, well, lib-er :-)

CowperKettle

Good evening, @snailplane! (0:

I'll drop asleep now.. it's midnight. (0:

sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/09/160912161010.htm

An interesting news I noticed this morning

> In a study that shatters a cornerstone concept in linguistics, an analysis of nearly two-thirds of the world's languages shows that humans tend to use the same sounds for common objects and ideas, no matter what language they're speaking.

Onomatopoeia pervades all languages

I'll go catch some z's

Good day to you!

Anonymous

19:42

@CowperKettle More accurately, sound symbolism.

ColleenV

22:00

@CowperKettle I came across a song that rhymed mechanism, schism, realism and thought of your love of rhyming poems :) It's a great rhyme I think.

Cardinal

22:57

@CowperKettle I purchased a Plexter SSD. It is 128 GB. These stuff are really expensive. However, my laptop's previous HDD was out of order having several bad sectors. I changed the drive 8 months ago. It haven't caused any trouble so far.

@CowperKettle I think LibreOffice works better than Apache and others. I used to work with it on Linux (Mint). It is very helpful, but it cannot compete with MS office.

Anonymous

23:19

I haven't had to use MS office in over a decade, and I'm happy about that :-)

Cardinal

Whooops, SSD drive is wrong. Solid State Drive already has the term Drive

@snailplane WoW, I guess that you were working with LaTeX

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