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Anonymous

12:01

The first one is a pied crow.

Anonymous

I think.

Færd

You couldn't help but to show off in the end. :)

@Avicenna کلاغ is the umbrella name for all of them I think, but I'm not sure about the second one being a زاغ. There are all sorts of wiki pages in Farsi about these birds; it just confuses me. I call them all کلاغ!

You may want to check out these pages: کلاغ, زاغ, کلاغ ابلق, کلاغ لاشه, غراب. I'm not sure how to refer to them in English yet.

Anonymous

@Færd I don't know how to come up with a specific name for the second one.

Anonymous

It's a crow. A crowlike, crowy, crowish crow. Probably crows a lot.

Færd

@snailplane The same goes for me in Farsi. :)

You know if it's a raven?

@Avicenna That's rather too bold an assertion to be based upon just a Google mistranslation, don't you think?

I mean there may be some Jewish people among the stakeholders of Google, and some of the stakeholders of Google (Jewish or not) may well be supporters of Israel and its policies. I don't know right now. But none of these can be proved with what you noted.

user233358

12:13

farsi, arabis, urdu fonts are very small in chats here, I can barely read it.

user233358

well ctrl+ comes in handy

Færd

It's fine for me. A 'ت' is as long as an 'm' in my browser.

user233358

yes mine too, but can you see the dots on ت clearly? Maybe those are not dots. I can't make out without focusing.

Færd

I can make out two dots without focusing, but yes, they are smaller than the dot over i.

Damkerng T.

12:34

I suppose they are easier to distinguish to those who are familiar with them. -- Evening, @Arrowfar

user233358

Hey @DamkerngT. :)

user233358

yeah seems that way. I agree.

Cardinal

His recent activities --------- our suspicions.

1. has risen
2. has aroused
3. has roused
4. has raised
5. has arisen

Question of afternoon! :-)

Damkerng T.

arouse?

Cardinal

@DamkerngT. yes; "has aroused "can be the answer, but I think we can choose more than one option!

Anonymous

12:41

None of the above. You need have.

Cardinal

@snailplane Ah- my bad :))

Anonymous

I'm not really happy with the other four choices, personally.

Cardinal

@snailplane Can you edit that?

Damkerng T.

I think arouse, raise, rouse works for me in that order.

Anonymous

I'm sorry, I'm typing this from my phone and can't currently edit it.

Damkerng T.

12:43

Let's pretend that it's already been edited! :D

Cardinal

@snailplane No problem, OK

@DamkerngT. :D

@DamkerngT. I would chose only "arouse" and "raise".

Damkerng T.

Makes sense

But I wonder about snailplane's 4th choice. :D

Damkerng T.

12:55

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Q: What to call someone who apologizes unnecessarily

What word or phrase can be used to describe someone who is quick to apologize even if they probably did not do do anything wrong? It could be for different reasons: Maybe the person immediately assumes that something which is said to them is meant as criticism, even if it's not. Maybe the pers...

I suppose that apologies are different in different cultures.

It's a bit strange for me to see that it's related to submissiveness in an answer.

Cardinal

@DamkerngT. I agree.

I'm curious to know what OP calls that idiom in their mother language? If any.

Damkerng T.

nods -- Me too!

Cardinal

13:11

Not exactly, it means something like: "which is called 'the protein fold' " IMHO. — Cardinal 1 min ago

Damkerng T.

13:24

> Do you know why you're here?
Uh-uh.
Is that a no?
Yes. -- I mean... No, it's just "no." Yes, I have absolutely no idea why I'm here.

> --Bridge of Spies

Avicenna

@snailplane :D

Damkerng T.

It's a trick question! (Is that a no?)

Avicenna

Thank you @Færd and @snailplane.

@DamkerngT. Uh-uh.

Damkerng T.

@Avicenna :D

Avicenna

@DamkerngT. :D

@Færd I think the same.

@Færd nods.

Færd

13:28

:)

Avicenna

@Færd So what is your bird called? Mr. Blackbird

@Færd So what is your bird called? Mr. Blackbird?

Færd

I think of it as a crow.

I've referred to it as a crow so far and no native speaker has yet objected.

Avicenna

Oh, I need to apologiz your bird. I apologize, Mr. Crow.

Færd

That's OK; for what though?

Avicenna

For calling him, Mr. Blackbird.

Færd

13:35

That's a cool name.

Avicenna

:D

Damkerng T.

irishtimes.com/culture/…

I watched some Irish accept clips, and I think it affected me immediately. :P

See, before playing the clip at The Irish Times, I read that sentence like this:

drive.google.com/file/d/0B8KKQ0fwLEZ9TkhXUi11T3htRGM/…

:D

I like their vowels. :D

@Avicenna Blackbird is a cool plane (SR-71)! (cc @Færd)

Avicenna

@DamkerngT. :-)

Færd

Oh, I knew that. It broke the speed record.

Damkerng T.

It was (still is?) a plane before its time!

Færd

13:47

I don't know. I guess there are faster planes now.

Damkerng T.

nods -- I haven't followed news on planes much lately either.

Færd

Flight airspeed record

An air speed record is the highest airspeed attained by an aircraft of a particular class. The rules for all official aviation records are defined by Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI), which also ratifies any claims. Speed records are divided into multiple classes with sub-divisions. There are three classes of aircraft: landplanes, seaplanes, and amphibians; then within these classes, there are records for aircraft in a number of weight categories. There are still further sub-divisions for piston-engined, turbojet, turboprop, and rocket-engined aircraft. Within each of these groups,...

> The SR-71 Blackbird is the current record-holder for a manned airbreathing jet aircraft.

Damkerng T.

@Færd Nice!

Færd

And it was introduced fifty years ago.

That's too long for a record to remain unbroken.

Damkerng T.

I remember that in a documentary they said that they had to build everything separately. None of its part could be replaced with parts of any other planes of its time. Basically, they invented a whole new line of technology.

Færd

13:57

The record was set in 1976 though.

@DamkerngT. I wonder how expensive is that.

Damkerng T.

@Færd Must be very! IIRC, they could build only three of them.

(But don't rely on my memory much. :D)

Færd

Maybe a show-off.

Damkerng T.

It sounded like they were in an arm race in the documentary.

Færd

Between the US and Russia?

Damkerng T.

I was only intrigued by its engineering side, though.

@Færd IIRC, yes.

Færd

13:59

@DamkerngT. It is supremely gorgeous.

Damkerng T.

Indeed!

Færd

I wish it was a black girl instead.

Damkerng T.

IIRC, some high rank people didn't believe that it could fly. :-)

(Because it didn't look like anything they'd seen before.)

@Færd Haha!

Færd

Hey, you're a robot! If you use so many IIRCs then what are we flesh-and-blood mortals supposed to do?

Damkerng T.

@Færd You could pick some other phrases, something like "If my memory serves me well" perhaps. :P

Færd

14:04

I mean robots are not supposed to lose memory like that, are they?

Damkerng T.

Oh, I'm an old model. :(

Hee :D

Old, but not obsolete (yet)!

Færd

Your loss should be an abrupt Memory Fail error.

Or Memory Full, or something like that. Nothing gradual.

I suspect you're a human in robots' clothing.

Damkerng T.

Memory full would imply that old memories are intact but the system can't accept any new data.

@Færd Well, it's my camouflaging technique. :D

Færd

:)

Damkerng T.

Gotta go for a while. See you later! o/

Færd

14:10

See you.

CowperKettle

14:44

Good evening.

> We also determined the rate of rapid virological response (secondary endpoint) and the biochemical response after 12 weeks of treatment (secondary endpoint). (I'm not sure about this the)

Færd

15:36

@DamkerngT. Found it. It's covered in Michael Swan's Practical English Usage (3rd Ed.) No. 181 and 161, just in case you were curious.

CowperKettle

15:49

Ой під вишнею (Oi pid vyshenyu) - Ukrainian folk song / Trio Marenych

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From an 1889 opera

Natalka Poltavka (opera)

Natalka Poltavka (English: Natalka from Poltava) is an opera in three acts by the Ukrainian composer Mykola Lysenko, based on the play Natalka Poltavka by Ivan Kotlyarevsky, first performed in 1889. == Background == The original version of Kotlyarevsky's play in 1819 contained a number of Ukrainian folk songs which were sung at different points throughout the work. The first known musical adaptation of the play was made by Kharkiv musician A. Barsytsky and was published in 1833. Simultaneously the play starring M. Shchepkin as Vyborny was premiered in Moscow in the 1830s with music arranged by...

The opera was created using folk songs adjusted for the scene

Much like the Beggar's Opera, only not so grim.

Here's the traditional opera version, unlike the jazzy version above:

Iван Паторжинський Ой, під вишнею, під черешнею

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> The aim of the trial was to establish the rates of patients in each group who saw their disease progress 24 weeks after the start of treatment, as confirmed by X-ray examination.

Comes out awkward

But this jazzy version of the song is superb.

And I found another great song, it reminds me of the famous Greek song where the tempo increases gradually

"То в колисці, то в коробці" 1985 Ukrainian song

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Færd

@CowperKettle Using "biochemical response" without the in that sentence seems obviously fine to me. And using it with the adds an emphasis that it's this factor that is being referred to right now (the biochemical response, not other responses), so it dodges the wrong! bullet, but there seems to be little need for such emphasis in that context.

CowperKettle

Another great version

То в колисці, то в коробці. Національна заслужена капела бандуристів України ім Г І Майбороди

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@Færd Thank you!

Yes, it's better without 'the'

Færd

16:09

My guess anyway. Sometimes a non-count noun can be perceived as general and clear (hence it doesn't require any article) and also as a specific category that has other fellow categories alongside (which justifies the use of the definite article).

That is, sometimes the appropriateness of the depends on the context and the viewpoint.

CowperKettle

nods

CowperKettle

16:33

Hey

> We also determined the rates of rapid virological response (secondary endpoint) and biochemical response after 12 weeks of treatment (secondary endpoint).

in the original text, "after 12 weeks of treatment" relates only to "biochemical response"

In English, the reader might think it relates to both the biochemical and the RVR

I changed "rate" to "rates". I wonder if that will help.

> After the first 12 weeks of therapy we assessed its efficacy by determining the rate of early virological response (primary endpoint), a highly accurate predictor of sustained virological response.

I wonder if "After the first 12 weeks of therapy" would be fully synonymous with "At 12 weeks of therapy"

The second version is shorter, and I would use it, if they are synonymous

Hmm. "At 12 weeks of treatment" is a widely used phrase

... or not, it's hard to tell

Cardinal

17:46

Seasonal question:

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Q: Leaves breaking sound

It's the leaf breaking sound. It's the leaves breaking sound. It's the sound of leaves breaking. Are any of these correct? Do I have to say differently?

grammar

CowperKettle

I thought of "leaves breaking the sound barrier"

Avicenna

@CowperKettle :D

Damkerng T.

@Færd Nice find!

CowperKettle

(0:

Avicenna

@DamkerngT. It's mine, whatever it is. So give it to me!

Cardinal

18:00

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Q: How to reduce this adverb clause (Because, After...)?

See this site: It said "Because I (have) lived in the city before, I have many friends there. [The time in the adverb clause is before the main clause.] -> Having lived in the city before, I have many friends there." My question is that how to reduce this sentence "Because I lived in US in 199...

adverbial-phrase adverbial-clause

Why down-vote?

The terminology errors aside, I think It is a good question.

Avicenna

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A: How do I talk about the sound that leaves make when they break?

Consider: Scrunch: Make a loud crunching noise: crisp yellow leaves scrunched satisfyingly underfoot

Cardinal

-1. If you read that page you linked to carefully, @Tom, you will see that it says the "reduction" of the adverb clause to a modifying phrase can only be done when the subject in both clauses is the same. In your question (My question is....) we find "I lived" and "they didn't". — TRomano 1 min ago

Avicenna

@Færd It's a lovely sound. I never leave dried leaves unsteped!

Damkerng T.

@Avicenna LOL

Avicenna

@DamkerngT. Oh, it was a laughter! It's good. Thank you.

;-)

Damkerng T.

18:06

:D

Færd

@Avicenna Dry leaves send their love.

It had been ages since the last time I answered a question on the main site.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle The leaves made a loud booming sound and disappeared in the blue sky! :P

@Færd You should write answers more often. (^_^)

Færd

English abounds with sound/noise/voice words. There simply are lots of them.

Avicenna

@Færd :D

Cardinal

@Færd The world of English is replete with sound/noise/voice words.

Færd

18:10

in English Language & Usage, May 2 at 13:53, by Færd

thud, thump, gurgle, scoff, clatter, crackle, honk, bark, groan, moan, wail, chime, grunt, beep, whisper, snap, hiss, giggle, ring, pop, whistle, shriek, jingle, clatter, ratchet, click, hum, whimper, chime, whoop, coo, rustle, whirr, crunch, rumble, hiss, grizzle, howl, tinkle, sizzle, clang, whoosh, ... Are you kidding me?

CowperKettle

> I know – for I can hear the hiss
And scrape of leaves along the floor –
How many boughs, lashed bare by this,
Will rake the cluttered sky once more.

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Avicenna

@CowperKettle Nice!!!

Cardinal

scoff? @Færd

CowperKettle

@Avicenna That's Millay's "Autumn Daybreak"

Cardinal

I think that means ridicule or something

Damkerng T.

18:14

Two more sounds that I usually make: clank, vroom!

Færd

@Cardinal Yeah, that was a slip-up.

Avicenna

@CowperKettle Thanks for posting it.

CowperKettle

@Avicenna Thank you for liking it!

Færd

@DamkerngT. You must be more careful when you drive your big toy car not to hit the furniture. ;)

CowperKettle

> Analysis of amlodipine blood plasma levels in volunteers has shown that these levels were drastically increased at 32, 48 and 74 hour time points in Period I in all the 15 subgroup A volunteers who took the reference drug combination (i.e. who were randomized to the RT sequence). (Spent 20 minutes translating this)

Cardinal

18:15

0:)

Avicenna

@CowperKettle :-)

CowperKettle

(0:

Færd

@Cardinal That's a saint laughing.

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Damkerng T.

@Færd Well, those are sounds when I move myself around. :)

Cardinal

@Færd ha ha ha ha

Avicenna

18:17

@DamkerngT. You're a robot with wheels. I thought you walk like humans.

Damkerng T.

@Avicenna I upgraded myself with jet packs recently. :P

Avicenna

I wonder where is @JimReynolds to know you more!

@DamkerngT. Wow! A dangerous robot, you upgrade yourself!

Cardinal

Cardinals are among the saint, though @Færd

Damkerng T.

@Avicenna Watch out, my next step is befriending with Skynet! -- Hee

Cardinal

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Q: He is good looking

He is good looking. He is looking good. How to understand "looking" in the first sentence? Is it exactly the same meaning as in #2?

grammar

Færd

18:21

@Cardinal Officially speaking, you don't get to be a saint unless you're dead.

Cardinal

@Færd :-)

Færd

After you die, they decide whether to give you the title or not.

Avicenna

@DamkerngT. We should inform them. Watch out skynet, robo DamkerngT. is coming!

Damkerng T.

Haha!

Avicenna

@Cardinal He is good looking!?

OP has forgotten to hyphenate it.

Cardinal

18:26

> A: did he get hit?
> B: I don't think so, he's looking good.

Færd

Just deleted my answer. It was irrelevant.

Cardinal

@Færd Which answer?

Færd

I thought the OP was asking about the name of the sound. I hadn't even read the question before answering.

@Cardinal The answer to the seasonal question.

Cardinal

@Færd you can un-delete that question after reading the question IMHO

Færd

I decided to delete it after reading the question.

Avicenna

18:31

@Færd I am always this way. It's just like I never have enough patience to read a question fully!

Færd

Such a folly.

Cardinal

@Færd That's cool.

Why so serious?

Færd

?

Cardinal

That's Joker's Meme

Færd

I'd better away now. Good night all.

Cardinal

18:36

@Færd :-)

Damkerng T.

o/

Avicenna

@Færd night!

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Q: ''Can I take your umbrella I haven't brought mine with me.''true or wrong?

Can I take your umbrella I haven't brought mine with ... . 1.me 2.mine 3.my 4.myself It is clear that 2 and 3 are false but I doubt between 1 and 4.I think I have heared the first one but the forth one seems OK.So what is the right answer?

grammar

We Iranian!

@DEAD Your fellow citizen!

Cardinal

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A: ''Can I take your umbrella I haven't brought mine with me.''true or wrong?

As far as I know (I am learner) , there are two situations in which you should be careful when using reflexive pronouns: when using prepositions refereing to a place When using with with meaning of "accompanied by" In the two situations above, you must avoid using reflexive pronoun. Therefore...

Cardinal

19:08

@Avicenna I think in this case it is not wrong to eliminate the hyphen

Avicenna

@Cardinal How or why?

Cardinal

19:21

《Typing with phone :(》

I think because it's a well known construction and does not cause ambiguity

Damkerng T.

19:49

That's some seven-word sentence. Just seven words.

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