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16:01
For @V.V. (I saw your comment out there) :-)
And what about the song? This is the way we wash our face... — V.V. 2 hours ago
@DamkerngT. We wash our faces with highly concentrated plum juice.
May this sentence appear in corpora one day.
"only later" is how much later!?
Unspecified, but later.
Do you have a full sentence, by the way?
only later did he leave the shop he realized that he didn't buy bla bla
( self-constructed )
16:08
Yeah, unspecified. (But your sentence is ungrammatical, I think.)
@Cardinal Later than immediately, but earlier than much later. :P
@Lawrence :-) sounds great
Actually, one person's much later may be another's only later.
Or even the same person's.
@Lawrence :D
@Lawrence Like a positive integer is between zero and infinity!
16:10
@DamkerngT. More like how big is "some". :)
Or say, between 0 and 2^32-1!
or a real number between 1 and 1.0001
^_^
@DamkerngT. Oh, you need to be upgraded !
16:12
Come to think of it, there is some similarity between only later and some.
@DamkerngT. would you tell me why you think it is ungrammatical?
It has too many clauses.
"Only later ONE-MAIN-CLAUSE".
@Cardinal Only later, after he left the shop, did he realise that he didn't buy ...
16:13
Yes, that's one possible fix.
It was no sooner ...
@Cardinal That sounds a lot more precise than only later.
Later!
@Lawrence Later! :-)
I was reading about inversions, so you need to read the first question from right to left!
:)
16:17
That feeling I get when all the fun is over and I only see "Later!"s
@Cardinal cool very indeed, is inversion.
@DEAD !sionverin, deedin cool ryvE
LOL
@DamkerngT. This got weird fast
@DamkerngT. That is more interleaving :D
16:23
Ok, Later o/
o/
@DEAD Haha!
Anonymous
16:38
Good morning! :-)
\o
Guten Abend, die Schnecke! (0:
@snailplane Morning!
17:01
A criminal case has been opened against a guy who was catching Pokemons in a Yekaterinburg temple
Hehe
Heh, I mean.
That's a vocal typo.
He may get 3 years in prison
Or pay 500 000 rubles (the average salary here is 30 000 a month)
Or both.
Let's make a big deal out of it.
That's quite ugly, like Middle Ages, hard to believe its 2016.
In the end, he caught one pokemon there. He says in the end of the clip "I failed to catch the main Pokemon, the Jesus pokemon, though".
LOL
@CowperKettle Some things just don't change.
You'd hear news like that even on 3016.
17:06
In Russia, this kind of things started in about 2010.
Prior to that, the level of idiocy was lower.
You mean people have gotten more religious there?
Why? I don't see the reason.
Oh wait. I found a reason.
No, the state has gotten more oppressive.
In the Urals, people generally dislike the established Church.
It's true. I was surprised when I moved from Siberia.
The whole world is becoming less religious. Russia should become more religious, then.
Makes sense.
LOL
Yes, the waterbed effect.
There are still some Raskol villages here, where people use the rites of the pre-Reform Church (before 1650)
Raskol (Russian: раскол, Russian pronunciation: [rɐˈskol], meaning "split" or "schism") was the event of splitting of the Russian Orthodox Church into an official church and the Old Believers movement in the mid-17th century. It was triggered by the reforms of Patriarch Nikon in 1653, which aimed to establish uniformity between Greek and Russian church practices. == The Raskol – result of Church reforms == The members of an influential circle called the Zealots of Piety (Russian: Кружок ревнителей благочестия Kruzhok revnitelei blagochestiya) stood for purification of Russian Orthodox faith. They...
And people generally love to say things like "the Church is an instrument of Moscow to try and control us" etc. (0:
In Siberia, it's farther from Moscow and people do not dislike the Church so much.
@CowperKettle Modern human doesn't have droughts or famine to worry about, so here comes the conspiracy theories.
17:27
> My profligate brother was a two-letter man in college. Monday and Friday he wrote home for money.
Is "forbade" a thing?
Ngram and Google results seem to disagree.
Anonymous
17:46
@DEAD Yes.
Anonymous
Due to confusion with bid over the centuries, forbid has acquired weak forms which are in competition with the original strong forms.
Anonymous
Well, a weak form, I suppose. :-)
Anonymous
I can't find this exact question on EL&U, but I do see a related question: english.stackexchange.com/q/39712/28567
@DEAD Are you a Mod now?
18:34
@Mattew Nope.
@snailplane Hmm, prolly also forbad.
Anonymous
19:23
@DEAD That's another strong form.
19:35
Word of the Day: pastiche
À la carte /ɑːləˈkɑːrt/ is an English language loan phrase meaning "according to the menu." It was adopted from French in the early 19th Century and refers to "food that can be ordered as separate items, rather than part of a set meal." The phrase is used in reference to a menu of items priced and ordered separately, i.e., the usual operation of restaurants. This is in contrast to a table d'hôte, where a menu has limited or no choice of items and is served at a fixed price. It may also be used to order an item from the menu on its own, e.g., a steak without the potatoes and vegetables is steak...
 
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21:05
As is typical for many languages, full conditional sentences in English consist of a condition clause or protasis specifying a condition or hypothesis, and a consequence clause or apodosis specifying what follows from that condition. The condition clause is a dependent clause, most commonly headed by the conjunction if, while the consequence is contained in the main clause of the sentence. Either clause may appear first. Different types of conditional sentences (depending largely on whether they refer to a past, present or future time frame) require the use of particular verb forms (tenses and...
Oh, no!
If someone asked me if they should read it, I think I might recommend against reading it.
Anonymous
I don't usually recommend Wikipedia for any linguistics related topics :-(
Anonymous
That's not to say Wikipedia doesn't contain good information, because it does, but, well
Anonymous
It's just a mish-mash of different theoretical frameworks and competing terminology, with a good amount of misinformation and confusion thrown in.
Anonymous
I think it's usually better for someone to try to learn from a single coherent source, like CGEL.
Anonymous
21:08
You don't have to agree with everything in CGEL, but at least it's largely self-consistent.
Or a simplified variant of it!
Anonymous
Sure :-)
I know how bad the three (or four) conditionals are because they'd never made sense to me until I learned conditionals (but not the three conditionals!) by myself on ELL.
It's rather safe to assume, I think, that they don't work well for most learners from Asia either, judging from what we can see in our questions (and answers, even).
(Oh, and test makers, too! Like in ell.stackexchange.com/questions/34350/will-vs-would, for example.)
Anonymous
21:29
I wonder who came up with them.
Anonymous
Most linguists don't use the Three Conditionals.
I thought it follows the same idea in another language (which I'm not familiar with, especially the grammar).
Right now, I'm not sure. :D
 
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22:39
3
A: won't instead of using' wouldn't' is possible?

P. E. DantWouldn't and won't are not interchangeable in your three sentences. The meanings of the sentences are different depending upon which form of the verb is used. If wouldn't is replaced by won't in the first sentence, we have: Here, you won't say, "May I ask you what is your name?" Won'...

Long answers tend to come with some flaws, even misleading flaws.
Long answers tend to attract more votes from learners, too, I think.
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