Language Overflow

Damkerng T.

00:45

@Nihilist_Frost विडाल ("vidaal", cat in Sanskrit) doesn't sound anything like "cat"!

@Nihilist_Frost Or even Linguistics.SE.

toha

02:25

Why T2000 does not appears at election page?

I am just see snailbike there

Cardinal

05:54

Hi dead

What is the stats? - election

DEAD

You can never know until the election ends

Cardinal

Awo, even you nominees?

DEAD

Then you'd be able to download a .blt file, run it in a program called OpenSTV, and see the results for yourself.

@Cardinal Even the mods

Cardinal

Does "there is not much time left for me" can be used to imply I dont have enough time and I should do something as fast as possible?

I think I heard that from people

who are going to kill themselves

DEAD

Oh, if someone wants to commit suicide, saying that would be a movie cliche.

Cardinal

06:00

Hi @JimReynolds

DEAD

DRRRAMA BOOOOMB

Cardinal

@DEAD exactly

but, I want to use that sentence in my e-mail, saying I need to decide fast

DEAD

How formal is the email?

Cardinal

65% :D

May I proclaim my votes here?

DEAD

I hope not

Cardinal

06:04

OK

DEAD

You can do it any time after the election, but during, hmm, is a bit inappropriate.

Alright, I gotta go. I'll be back in six hours and fifty five minutes

Cardinal

I see

Jim Reynolds

@Cardinal I don't have mucb

DEAD

Providing that I'd have a good enough internet to chat

Cardinal

OK, take care of yourself \

Jim Reynolds

06:10

I don't have much time maybe. With left it's more likely a statement meaning until I die, but not particularly in a suicide context.

Cardinal

@JimReynolds I was thinking similarly; thanks

toha

Hi.. DEAD..
I am afraid of you since your name is DEAD

tell us what is the meaning of your name?

Cardinal

06:29

Is it idiomatic to say:

> I no longer could stop myself from sending this mail

Anonymous

06:47

I would move no longer: I could no longer stop myself…

CowperKettle

75 photos of Yekaterinburg and the Urals

Sawasdee khrap, peeps!

Cardinal

07:06

@snailplane Thank you

Anonymous

08:29

@toha That user's home site is Chemistry.SE, and he sometimes picks names based on chemicals. In this case, a chemical called diethyl azodicarboxylate is abbreviated DEAD.

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toha

09:33

Oh I see. But even that name is about chemical, I am still afraid of him.. :'(

Since Dead has another meaning at another field of study

Anonymous

Yeah, it's a fearsome name, isn't it?

toha

Except DEAD is a woman.

Of course. Dead is mystery, black, sorrow, etc

I am just want to vote woman or T2000. But he is not candidate. So, I vote for snailbike..

\o/

Damkerng T.

10:25

@DamkerngT. "Someone is sexist" also works. The dictionary says sexist is an adjective or a noun, so I would think that answers why it works. But if OP still has doubts, he/she is more than welcome to include more details in the post so we can reopen it. I'm not entirely sure about hijacking OP's question by injecting our own questions into it though. — Max 29 mins ago

Interesting point, and good point.

Now I have to think if Someone is sexist really works.

Damkerng T.

10:47

Finally, people around me start to go crazy about Pokemon!

Jim Reynolds

@DamkerngT. Yes, as an adjective/complement. She is racist. Or she is a racist. (noun)

I am human.

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds I tried to find real examples of "someone is sexist", someone, not something, in Google Books, but it was harder than finding a pokemon!

Jim Reynolds

Haha

Cardinal

Donald Trump is called sexist from a lot of people

> What did you think was in the box?

Can you help me with this kind of ellipsis

It's eating me

Normally, I would say:

> What did you think that it was in the box

Which seems to be wrong

Or after using ny head I can come up with:

Jim Reynolds

11:03

Morgan Freeman said on Monday that he was sexist but not a misogynist after making comments on the the length of the skirt worn by his producing partner, Lori McCreary, during a panel talk about the film industry.

Cardinal

> What did you think that was in the box

Jim Reynolds

m.reddit.com/r/NeutralPolitics/comments/4iherg/…

First paragraph

@Cardinal What (thing) did you think was in the box.

Damkerng T.

@Cardinal I suggest trying to understand it in a canonical form (rather than a question). Let's try:

Ah, Jim is going to explain it. Better listen to Jim. :D

Jim Reynolds

I don't know if this ellipsis. We can just use what as the subject, perhaps.

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds There are several links in the thread. I bet none of them has "is sexist"!

Jim Reynolds

11:08

Or object, rather? I dunno.

Damkerng T.

> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_us_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023
http://www.bustle.com/articles/131835-the-9-most-sexist-donald-trump-quotes-from-2015-are-honestly-just-the-tip-of-the
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/heres-all-the-sexist-things-that-donald-trump-has-ever-said-10452180.html
http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/blogs/550112/donald-trump-quotes.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11987964/Donald-Trump-sexism-Republican-US-Presidential-candidates-gaffes.html

Jim Reynolds

What thread?

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds Oh, okay. Maybe I should try to explain it, then. :D

@JimReynolds Reddit.

> I know what you thought was in the box.

It can be broken down to:

Jim Reynolds

I've heard many people say Donald Trump is sexist.

At the top of the page. Comment, not link.

Damkerng T.

> (a) SOMETHING was in the box.
(b) You thought SOMETHING was in the box.

> (c) I know what you thought ~~SOMETHING~~ was in the box.

Basically, (c) means I know "that SOMETHING" (which you think was in the box).

Probably not a very good explanation, but I tried.

Cardinal

11:14

I see

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds nods -- But I still bet that we don't find "is sexist" used in those news articles.

Cardinal

What was in the box

What (did you think) was in the box

Damkerng T.

Yes! You're on the right track.

Cardinal

What did you think (that it) was in the box

Damkerng T.

@Cardinal Be careful with this one. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by the parenthesis. It could be ungrammatical when you expanded it, I think.

Cardinal

11:18

Yes, I think the last one is ungramatical myself

Especially the pronoun "it"

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds Back to our question, I was thinking that maybe is (a) sexist is somewhat like saying Jim is American vs. Jim is an American or I'm Thai vs. I'm a Thai.

Both alternatives are grammatical, but I think people tend to use one over the other.

(depending on context)

Cardinal

nods

Can I say "did you think" modifies the subject "what"

Damkerng T.

@Cardinal It's part of the main clause. Technically, you is the subject.

Anonymous

11:33

You is the subject of the main clause. There is also a subordinate clause.

Anonymous

You can't add that it there. That would be ungrammatical.

Anonymous

> What ᵢ did you think [ ＿＿ ᵢ was in the box ] ?

Anonymous

I hope the Unicode subscript i shows up here. I've placed one after the word what, and one after the blank ("gap") inside the subordinate clause.

Anonymous

The subject of the subordinate clause is that gap, which I've indicated here with a blank spot, but normally we don't indicate gaps in writing.

Anonymous

Semantically, it's as though what is the subject of the subordinate clause, filling in that gap.

Anonymous

11:39

It's as though what has been pulled out of the subordinate clause, and moved to the front of the sentence.

Anonymous

We can compare it with a simpler declarative version instead:

Anonymous

> I thought [ candy was in the box ] .

Anonymous

> You thought [ what was in the box ] ?

Anonymous

> What ᵢ did you think [ ＿＿ ᵢ was in the box ] ?

Anonymous

In each case, there's a main clause and a subordinate clause (in brackets).

Anonymous

11:47

Nothing is modifying what in any of the examples.

Anonymous

12:02

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Q: Which is correct: "I am male" or "I am a male"?

When asked a question like, "What is your gender," or, "Are you male," which is correct: I am male I am a male Or are both acceptable? Or does it depend on the question?

Anonymous

This question would get more complicated if you replaced male with female because of cultural attitudes toward the phrase a female in reference to women in common (not scientific) speech.

Anonymous

Although I think that it's probably more likely to be taken as neutral when you're describing yourself (I am a female) than when you're describing others.

Damkerng T.

@snailplane Oh, it's still new!

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I clicked it because it seemed related to our earlier discussion, but it turned out to be a separate question :-)

Anonymous

In the case of sexist (adjective phrase in predicative complement function) versus a sexist (noun phrase in predicative complement function), I don't really see much difference in terms of connotation or meaning.

Anonymous

12:08

If you just look at it grammatically, sexist versus a sexist is pretty much the same as male versus a male.

Anonymous

But there might be more to discuss in specific cases.

Damkerng T.

@snailplane For one thing, it's really hard to find is sexist (when it's a person) in Google Books!

I'm not sure what to think of that.

(Sorry for the typo (or braino)!)

Anonymous

Well, the adjective sexist is very often used to describe things other than people.

Anonymous

I don't think it should be too hard to find is/are a sexist in reference to people.

Anonymous

slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/10/…

Anonymous

12:13

Here, it's the complement of as.

Damkerng T.

@snailplane nods -- the pattern is a sexist dominates when it's about a person.

Anonymous

Oh! You said it was hard to find it without a. I thought you said it was hard to find it with :-)

Damkerng T.

@snailplane I did say the opposite. My bad! :D

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. That sounds plausible.

Anonymous

Oh, I see :-)

Anonymous

12:16

I'm sure you can use it of people, though.

Anonymous

Even if it's less frequent.

Damkerng T.

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Q: Can you <run them by me> now

Imagine you are teaching your child about a process that is made of a few stages, for example, the four-stage life cycle of a bug. After explaining each stage, you briefly go over them. And to check the child remembers the four stages, you ask them to say/name the four stages. I wonder if you c...

phrase-usage phrase-request phrasal-verbs

I think this question may need a better answer than existing ones.

The idiom could be dialectal, I think, personally.

Anonymous

Is it? I wouldn't have thought so.

Damkerng T.

What kept me wondering is whether or not "Could you run it by me again?" still makes sense without "again" in that meaning.

@snailplane Maybe I got the idea after reading our answers!

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Typo alert: run it by me again

Anonymous

12:27

I think you do need again or one more time if they've already presented their idea to you for approval once, and now you want to hear it again before you judge it.

Damkerng T.

@snailplane Ah, indeed!

Anonymous

The other situation where you'd use that phrase is when you couldn't quite hear what they were saying, I think.

Damkerng T.

@snailplane I was thinking that maybe this meaning is probably not used in all dialects.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Ah, I see. If so, that's new to me :-)

Anonymous

In any case, I don't really think it's appropriate in the OP's situation.

Damkerng T.

12:30

@snailplane Our answers seem to not acknowledge that meaning, if I'm not mistaken.

@snailplane nods

CowperKettle

12:52

> Until 1 July 2014, the agency entrusted to carry out expert reviews of the quality of the drug was the Center of Expert Examination at Roszdravnadzor. (A very tricky sentence in Russian. I initially translated it as "the expert review finished on 1 July 2014", but was lucky enough to double-check with the author of the text)

Some Russian sentences can be interpreted in wildly different ways.

Good afternoon!

Damkerng T.

Good evening!

Anonymous

Good morning! :-)

Anonymous

Even though it's six in the morning here, my snails are asleep.

Anonymous

Snails don't always keep the hours you'd expect.

CowperKettle

They are early birds? (0:

My cat is asleep too, because it's hot..

Anonymous

12:55

Snails tend to be awake during the night, and go to sleep when the sun comes out.

CowperKettle

I once had a hedgehog, for a very short time. It drove me mad by running at nights.

Anonymous

They don't really like the bright light and heat. They prefer the cool of night, when it's safer for them. The sun dries them out, and the bright light makes it easier for predators to see them.

Anonymous

Although my snails have been getting up and snailing about, then going back to sleep. But every time I check, they're asleep, just in different positions :-)

Anonymous

@CowperKettle Oh, yes! They'll do that :-)

Anonymous

Our hamsters do that.

CowperKettle

12:56

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Anonymous

Hamsters can make all sorts of interesting noises at night.

CowperKettle

They say some people set up huge running wheels for hedgehogs.

Anonymous

Hamsters run a lot at night. They also make clank, clank, clank! sounds as they climb up their water bottles, which hit the side of the cage :-)

Anonymous

We fashioned a small damper and placed it around the metal portion of the water bottle so that it'd be less clanky.

CowperKettle

When we vacationed in Crimea in the Soviet times, we lived in a wooden shed and put out some food for hedgehogs. In the night they were running about, drinking the milk (hopefully... do they really drink milk?) and feasting on the food.

@snailplane They love freedom!

Anonymous

12:58

@CowperKettle They'll drink it, but it's actually better if you give them water.

CowperKettle

Afternoon, @Avi!

Avicenna

Hi!

Anonymous

Good morning :-)

Avicenna

AfteAfternoon, morning @CowperKettle @snailplane

Anonymous

@CowperKettle Wait, I should ask: Was it cow's milk?

Anonymous

13:00

Hedgehogs have trouble with lactose.

Anonymous

They'll happily consume dairy, but they won't be very happy about it afterwards :-)

Anonymous

(Kind of like me!)

Avicenna

Question: I've been filling out college applications .......... the last month. Since or for

Anonymous

> I've been filling out college applications since last month.

Anonymous

> I've been filling out college applications for the last month.

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CowperKettle

13:03

@snailplane Then most likely they did not drink it. (0:

Anonymous

In the former example, you're conceptualizing last month as a point in time somewhere in the past, and you're defining a span of time starting at that point, so you use since.

Anonymous

With the last month, you conceptualize it as having a duration, so you use for.

Avicenna

@snailplane can you explain the difference/readon.

Anonymous

If my explanation doesn't make sense, I might need to draw timelines :-)

Avicenna

Thank you.

Sorry I didn't notice. I am multitasking.

Avicenna

13:22

@snailplane I need to think more. Now I am in class. Would it be OK with you if we talk more about 4 hours later.

Anonymous

Sure. I think I'll be online :-)

Cardinal

13:35

@snailplane I don't know why I think this sentence is wrong. Perhaps because I learned to avoid inverdion in reporting clauses.

Btw, thanks for the explanation

Anonymous

> You thought [ what was in the box ] ?

Anonymous

This sort of question is only appropriate in certain specific circumstances.

Anonymous

For example, if you're expressing disbelief at what you heard:

Anonymous

> Alice: I thought a hundred million dollars was in the box!
> Bob: Wait, you thought *what* was in the box!?

Anonymous

Or if you didn't hear them properly, and you want them to repeat themselves:

Anonymous

13:38

> Alice: I thought *mumblemumble* was in the box.
> Bob: I'm sorry, I couldn't hear what you said. You thought *what* was in the box?

Anonymous

You wouldn't use this form of question normally.

Cardinal

nods

Anonymous

If you just want to know what someone thought was in the box, you'd use the basic form:

Anonymous

> What did you think was in the box?

Anonymous

And the other version would be wrong.

Anonymous

13:40

That is, it'd be grammatical but inappropriate, because it only works in a few specific contexts.

Cardinal

Therefore, I need to understand weyher the wh-word is the subject of the subordinate clause or not. If it is the subject, we use a gap.

As matter of the fact that it has already been mentioned

Can I claim that "I thought ...." is a reporting clause? i.e., it reports my intrinsic thoughts?

Damkerng T.

13:59

"I think a cat is in the box!" is qualified as reported speech for me.

Phrase of the Day: the pedal to the metal

(It's interesting for me because I just heard a host use it in Battlebots and I'm not sure if she meant the pedal to the medal or to the metal. I mean, it could be a pun!)

Anonymous

It could be, although my intuition says it's probably not, unless they actually showed a medal onscreen at the time :-)

Damkerng T.

@snailplane They introduced the last 8 bots in the quarterfinals, and she wrapped the episode up with that line! :D

In any case, I can't tell whether she said metal or medal! :D

Anonymous

Yeah, the two sound the same :-)

Anonymous

languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=8697

Anonymous

I mean, for us Americans they are. In normal speech.

Damkerng T.

14:05

Hah! We have a LL post for that!?! :D

Anonymous

Caveats added!

Damkerng T.

And it's exactly about the same phrase at that!

Anonymous

14:42

My windows computer just started blue screening on startup. :-(

Damkerng T.

14:59

@snailplane Oh, no!

3

Q: Word(s)/phrase(s) for "making you seem smarter than you really are"

Are there words (or phrases) that mean "makes it seem as if you are smarter/more educated/more refined/etc. than you really are" (while you know you are not)? For example, like a word suitable to fill in the following sentence. I'd like to have a ______ saying on my profile page. What comes t...

word-request phrase-request

Sometimes the example sentence and the question itself seem to be inconsistent.

Cardinal

15:15

@DamkerngT. :D

Jim Reynolds

@Dam Jim is American and Jim is an American are both fairly common. That's my point about is sexist. You will find it in news articles.

It's certainly not lower register.

Cardinal

I flagged a post :D

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Q: How to master the art of writing in the second language?could so

I need some tips to master the art of writing, want to improve my writing skills. Plus , i want to ask one more thing. We look for the word's meaning on the internet, is there any way I could find the vice-versa. As in, the author mustn't always have known the words. Thry might have looked up/ le...

american-english writing

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds If a stranger walks to you while you're on your vacation somewhere in the South Pacific and asks, Sorry, are you an American?, will it strike you as a little odd?

@Cardinal Oh!

Jim Reynolds

No. No. And No!!!

Damkerng T.

I see!

Jim Reynolds

15:20

tightens something on @Dam's CPU.

Damkerng T.

I don't know why, but I'd expect Sorry, are you American?

Jim Reynolds

More likely, but the other not uncommon.

Damkerng T.

Maybe Are you an American? is not as odd as Are you an Englishman?

Jim Reynolds

But even more rarely: are you a Thai?

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds That would strike me as odd!

Jim Reynolds

15:23

Are you a Chinese also fairly rare.

But He's a German He's German both common enough.

Damkerng T.

Hehe! (I just noticed that there's man in German!)

Jim Reynolds

I guess Thai and *Chinese are less often used as nouns.

DEAD

Dam is a Thai

Damkerng T.

It's less odd when it's about a third person to me.

Jim Reynolds

He's a dam Thai.

Cardinal

15:28

3

Q: What do we call a person from a certain country?

Do we call a person from China "a Chinese"? For example, can I say: I have a friend, he is a Chinese?

word-usage

:p

Jim Reynolds

@Cardinal is an orangutan.

Is that correct?

Cardinal

@JimReynolds I think your sentence is not grammatical. It lacks a subject ! :D

Avicenna

16:06

Hi!

DEAD

\o

CowperKettle

hi

Avicenna

Wow! What a busy room! 12 people at once!

@snailplane I am here, if you have time.

Cardinal

I am posting a question on the main site

I would be glad to receive any answers :D

Avicenna

@snailplane Conclusion: if the time is specified, I mean like having the, this,..., then it emplies the duration not point of time so we need to use for not since.

@Cardinal link it here.

Cardinal

16:12

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Q: "Within", "in", "during", or "over" ? I will call him ---------- the next break

Consider you are in a meeting. The meeting is going to continue for the next several hours. Therefore, some breaks have been devised in order to let people refresh themselves. Now consider a brief conversation between two guys sitting near each others: A: Did you notify C that you would be h...

word-choice prepositions

DEAD

(removed)

Avicenna

Good question!

Let me try to answer.

Cardinal

your welcome

CowperKettle

16:31

MS Word's notes have such a little size

Barely legible

Avicenna

within means before the end of sometime
over: during something, while doing something like over lunch
in: during part or all of a period of time
during: 1. from the beginning to the end of a particular period
2.at sometime between the beginning and the end of a period

Considering their meaning all of them are possible.

So it would be about collocation.

If I say within the next break, I mean before the next break is over.

Man_From_India

Strange thing -

> No way will she agree to you leaving early. [CORRECT]

Avicenna

In the next break is really odd to use.

Man_From_India

> She will agree to you leaving early in no way. [CORRECT -> you have to insert in there. Leaving it will make it ungrammatical.]

Avicenna

During the next break, sometime in the next break.

Man_From_India

16:44

> ? In no way will she agree to you leaving early. [CORRECT? INCORRECT?]

How to explain this strange thing? @DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

@Man_From_India Sounds good to me.

Man_From_India

@DamkerngT. But other two example sentences I wrote above?

Damkerng T.

A bit formal, perhaps.

Avicenna

Over the next break, also strange but I like it! o_O

Man_From_India

> She will agree to you leaving early in no way.

I think dropping in will make it incorrect.

But this is correct -

Avicenna

16:47

Hi @DamkerngT. , Man_From_India

Man_From_India

> No way will she agree to you leaving early.

Damkerng T.

I think so, though I wouldn't expect in no way there either.

Jim Reynolds

@Avicenna I think not always odd. Also, within the next break might refer to different breaks: this coming break, or that after this coming break.

Damkerng T.

I think it's grammatical (again, I think), but I doubt if real people say it.

If some people say it in real life, I still don't think it's very often.

Man_From_India

A better example sentence here -

> No way was this good.

> This was in no way good.

Avicenna

16:50

@JimReynolds really! My ears are not used to it. But they are not native!

Man_From_India

> In no way was this good.

Is not that strange that in sentence two we have to use '"in'", but when no way is at the beginning of the sentence it can take in optionally.

Damkerng T.

@Man_From_India My quick judgement (I'm not going to say that this is correct or most people will agree with me. Just my impression): "This is no way good" plain, "In no way was this good" something from another register (think House of Cards, maybe), "No way was this good" (someone trying to imitate that register but failed?).

Jim Reynolds

@Avicenna What we actually say in speech is often a bit different than what we expect. I'll see her sometime in the break is not as common or careful as over, during or within, but people utter such sometimes.

Man_From_India

@DamkerngT. you see it works for This is (in) no way good but we can't drop in in She will agree to you leaving early in no way.

Damkerng T.

This is no way good is odd to me.

But This is, no way, good is probably okay.

It's not written English, anyway, I think.

Jim Reynolds

16:55

@Man_From_India We would drop in occasionally, in the first one. In speech.

Man_From_India

@JimReynolds What about the other cases when no way goes into the sentence deeper?

Jim Reynolds

Oh. I didn't read it carefully.

Damkerng T.

No way this is good sounds a bit more natural and down to earth to me, FWIW.

Man_From_India

@DamkerngT. nods

Avicenna

@JimReynolds So all are possible, but the other 3 ones are more common and during is much more common to use.

Jim Reynolds

16:58

@Man_From_India She will agree to you leaving early in no way. Seems unlikely, with or without in.

Man_From_India

@JimReynolds But we can write No way will she agree to you leaving early?

Jim Reynolds

@Avicenna Maybe a close contest with over.

@Man_From_India Certainly.

Man_From_India

@JimReynolds Is not that strange? How grammar explains it?

Jim Reynolds

But at the end, we might wonder which ways she might leave.

Avicenna

@JimReynolds So over is more likely to be used by natives. Thank you.

Jim Reynolds

17:00

@Man_From_India Grammar is a religion. Snailplane is our high prophet.

@Avicenna Over and in, or in and over!

Avicenna

@JimReynolds I see.

Anonymous

@Man_From_India Ask your question about (in) no way on the main site! :-)

Man_From_India

:O

@snailplane A good would-be mod who is available on chat :-)

Damkerng T.

That would be exciting for our readers!

To my ear, She will agree to you leaving early in no way sounds like something that supposedly is Beethoven but ends up rap music. :P

Jim Reynolds

:D

Avicenna

17:03

@snailplane Hi.

See my conclusion?

Jim Reynolds

Honestly, I think the robot might be low on fluid today

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds Robot is watching Battlebots (the first-half that I missed in the first rerun).

Jim Reynolds

dusts Avicenna's ears with native powder

CowperKettle

native?

ah

Avicenna

@JimReynolds appreciates!

Jim Reynolds

17:06

@DamkerngT. Have you been participating in any battles?

Damkerng T.

Wow! Tombstone is eating Radioactive alive!

TKO!

CowperKettle

He only participates in battles when he can take a cat with the sniper rifle along with him

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Anonymous

@Avicenna Yes, I think we're on the same page :-)

Jim Reynolds

I think your auxiliary sub-logic processor has been knocked partially loose.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Well said! :D

CowperKettle

17:07

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Man_From_India

A quick question -

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Q: (In) no way? - She will agree to you leaving early in no way.

A manner adjunct - (in) no way. It can move freely in a sentence. (In) no way will she agree to you leaving early. But when (in) no way change its position, we can't drop in. She will agree to you leaving early in no way. It seems very strange to me. How does grammar explain it?

adjuncts

Avicenna

@snailplane Yay! Thank you. I told the same thing to my students, but I added I am not sure.

Man_From_India

will come back later if more input is needed. Or to check the answers :-)

Damkerng T.

@Avicenna (cc @snailplane) But note that:

"...since the last week" could be grammatical if the context indicates what "the last week" is the last week of. "The show I was leading in took its toll. I have been sick since the last week." — Andrew Leach ♦ Jan 16 '14 at 9:22

CowperKettle

> Rooms will be cleaned with hydrogen peroxide once a week (on Mondays). This cleaning will have a 'total cleaning' status. (Or the total cleaning status?)

Damkerng T.

17:20

Not sure about the intended meaning, but it makes me think of something in a database or maybe in a logbook.

LOL -- "We're pumped!" "No, we're jet!" "Yeah, we're jet!" "Yeeaaaahhhh!" (said by the crew of a bot that just won a battle).

CowperKettle

Basically there are routine cleanings and 'total cleanings' in Russian. "Total cleaning" (Generalnaya uborka) is when people really get to it and clean everything.

Damkerng T.

But why does it have "status"?

Jim Reynolds

This will be a total cleaning.

CowperKettle

The original sentence goes like this: "We will consider this a total cleaning" (They previously used a more thorough procedure for total cleaning but discovered that by changing to other detergents makes a less frequent procedure possible)

This is an officialeze-packed table, and the authors sometimes tell "oh, just don't translate this bit" or "oh, haha, let's remove it".

(when I ask for explanations)

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle LOL!

CowperKettle

17:26

There are some official-looking filler constructions. An English-speaking non-native Russian translator would have found the document horrible.

Damkerng T.

You could hand him an empty sheet of paper and said, "I just finished the translation. Here is the bill." :P

CowperKettle

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I learned to avoid "the new technology allows to increase productivity".

Damkerng T.

I think this is a possible workaround Rooms will be cleaned with hydrogen peroxide once a week (on Mondays). This cleaning will have the status 'total cleaning'.

(Whatever it means, because I'm not sure! :)

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Nice!

There may be some English term for "total cleaning".

For instance, in our school we used to clean the classrooms each day, not very vigorously. But once a month we really got down to cleaning the classrooms, with not 2-3 pupils doing that but, say 10 pupils.

Maybe in Thailand there are special employees for cleaning classrooms.

Damkerng T.

Thai is a rather simple language; it'd be something along the lines "big cleaning" (and "small cleaning" or "routine cleaning"). (^_^)

CowperKettle

17:33

In Russian, its Generalnaya Uborka (General Cleaning)

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Sounds like something a Thai school principal might say. :P

CowperKettle

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> Обеспечение маркировки каждой емкости с браком флаконов, и проверка до, во время просмотра флаконов наличие этикеток на емкостях с браком флаконов. (Provision of labeling of each container with defective vials and inspection before, during vial inspection of the presence of labels on defective vial containers)

I could not understand the meaning of the original sentence.

Because it tries to pump too much meaning into impersonal constructions.

> Ensure that each container with defective vials has a label. The label should indicate at which stage in production the defect was noticed.

Avicenna

17:53

@DamkerngT. Thanks for the link.

Damkerng T.

@Avicenna No problem!

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