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Morning Kettle!
Namaste, @Man_From_India!
 
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03:31
oiii oiiiii @DamkerngT. @CowperKettle How's life at your end? :D
Hiii @V.V. it's been a while :D
@snailplane I haven't forget about your snail mode :D
Choice of word: damaging - pestered
Dominance of Metopograpsus latiforus led to unstable and pestered/damaging irrigation in nature conservation.
03:55
Good morning, @Student!
I've posted my question above @CowperKettle, which one you would choose? :)
The whole sentence is a bit off-kilter
Google finds no results for 'Metopograpsus latiforus'
Hmmm it is dealing with Makrozoobenthos
Macrobenthos
I don't understand the meaning of the sentence..
what is "irrigation in nature conservation"?
watering system
04:02
> The region's irrigation has been compromised by ML, a species that became dominant in the region.
I dunno how to evade repeating 'region'
hmmmm thinking
> ML's dominance has disrupted the region's irrigation system, making it unstable
I dunno how to attach 'nature conservation' there, because I see no use for't
nature conservation cant be removed
it is the project
What then does it mean?
hmmm sec please
04:06
> The stability of the region's irrigation system was damaged by the fact that ML gained dominance
dominance value - evenness value -- diversity index
Okay, try to put your sentence in simple words, and probably someone will help. (0:
I'll lurk some..
..translating.
okay thanks a lot @CowperKettle happy translating!
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You may try out lang-8.com
04:58
@DamkerngT. I'm not sure how many you need to get by during a trip. These are some quotes from Paul Pimsleur's How to Learn a Foreign Language:
> Words, words, words. It takes about fifteen hundred of them for a “basic” command of a language and perhaps five thousand to be really fluent.
But it can depend on what language you want to learn.
> The vocabulary “hump” is reached earlier in German than in most other languages. The thousand most frequent German words actually comprise about 80 percent of most reading matter; the second thousand words raise this figure to 90 percent.
And there's this chart (which I don't why is so awkwardly shaped):
So I guess for a learner of English, a practical, objective first goal could be to master COCA's list of the top 5000 words of English: wordfrequency.info/free.asp?s=y
(I bet you won't be able to find 5 words there that are entirely new to you. Gives me comfort.)
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05:15
@Student I have a new snail named Zeta :-)
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@Færd It really is awkwardly shaped.
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I've always felt that that kind of comparison is a little misleading, though. If you sit down to read a book and can only understand 90% of the words in the first chapter, you're likely missing multiple words in every sentence. How much can you really understand at that level?
Anonymous
You can certainly do a great deal with a language knowing only a few thousand words.
Anonymous
But when people aren't making special accommodations for your vocabulary size, it's going to be a challenge.
05:32
@snailplane Beautiful!
Morning!
Word of the morning: buffy coat
It's from a piece I'm translating..
Never knew how the blood is separated into layers
Now I'm trying to understand whether it's "interface layer" or "interphase layer" that we collect the mononuclear cells from after centrifugation
Seems to be the former.
> The mononuclear cells (lymphocytes and monocytes) were collected from the interface between the plasma and the Lymphoprep layer and washed with a sterile PBS solution.
Whew.
05:48
@Student Nice to see you again!
@Færd Thanks for the info!
@Færd I guess so. I haven't checked out all the words in the list, though, just a quick scan over some first pages of it.
Hey, they count CEO as a word!
@snailplane Yay!
To be fair, I can't find any good explanation in a Longman dictionary!
They just write "sing singular".
How helpful!
@DamkerngT. waving at you, yes it's been a while heheee anyway, did you read my question above?
@Student I was going to! :D
waving, waving! :D
Between pestered and damaging, damaging makes more sense to me.
@snailplane Hello, Zeta!
@CowperKettle My first thought when I saw the word, is that a coat one should wear when slaying a vampire? :P
@DamkerngT. LOL
Strange that it's about blood!
Sawasdee khrap!
I never saw that movie. (0:
06:03
Zdorovo and sawasdee khrap!
@CowperKettle My cable TV provider is broadcasting a rerun of it, right from the first episode of season one!
(I took a peek at a few of the episodes. :P)
Gotta go back to my chores. See y'all later!
Laters!
06:18
-1 for the not commonly used anymore statement with no evidence. Also, the advice that one is preferred over the other, which seems a matter of personal taste wrapped in the guise of prescription. — Jim Reynolds 8 mins ago
However, I try to use "therefore" instead of "thus".
@Cowp (icily) BASED ON WHAT?
I am looking for a battle, and my cat is hiding from me!
We can debate in English, French, or Russian. Take your pick.
06:44
No, @JimReynolds, I'd better go for a jog. (0:
> We assessed RNA concentration using a Nanovue spectrophotometer (GE Healthcare) and controlled the quality of the purified RNA by electrophoresis in 1.5% agarose gel.
Should there be "a" before "agarose gel"?
It's a substance, so no article is needed
But it's a substance with a particular concentration of .. something.. dunno what
Ludwig says 'no article':
@Student The stability of irrigation under the nature conservation project was negatively affected by the overabundance of ML, a dominant species
Does it sound better?
"a species that grew in dominance"
"a species that became dominant in this area"
hmmmmm @CowperKettle
Ah, you're here
Does it look better?
It's unclear whether ML was a dominant species already, or whether it became dominant, or whether it even became dominant as a result of the conservation project.
Without context, it's impossible to translate a sentence right in 90% of cases.
What was the project about? What activities, what goals, what equipment?
What did it involve?
Etc, etc.
07:03
@DamkerngT. Typical of my political scientist friend:
@CowperKettle Article not needed. I'd leave it out here.
My feeling is that "dominant species" is probably fine here
^ @CowperKettle @Stu
@JimReynolds Hiiiiiiiii after a long time :D
dominance value
dominance value - evenness value - diversity index
07:23
Hi. Um... Is that a question?
@CowperKettle I didn't write this carefully. A prescription can involve a personal preference.
But I'm not here to be careful. I'm here to be evil
I've failed at everything else. Even cannibalism. I talk a lot, but have eaten no one, if the truth be told
:'(
 
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08:33
حضور بانوی محجبه مصری در مسابقات والیبال ساحلی المپیک ریو 2016 مورد توجه رسانه‌های جهانی قرار گرفته است. https://t.co/HE6Ok2QNTW
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@snailplane Hello! (^_^)
Word of the Day: latitude
> I'm sorry, Mr. Shephard, but our policy is that the body must have the proper documentation. There's just no latitude.
08:57
Confucius say: They who give much latitude have lax attitude
@snailplane Muy cyuuuto
The little snail seems rather mellow: I'll just let my house sit kind of sideways and have a snack
09:11
@snailplane Beautiful, especially with all the droplets!
09:24
Please add more information to your question. Why did you write it? Is it part of a paragraph? If so, show us more. Why do you think it's wrong? The sentence can be right or wrong, depending on what you want to say. — Jim Reynolds 20 secs ago
LOL -- We said essentially the same thing! @JimReynolds
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Q: How to use the word “purge"

lightweaverI’ve seen the word “purge” used in conjunction with “of” and “from” or being used on its own. However, would it be appropriate to say something like “I purged the information out from my brain?"

Nein, nein, nein. With purge, you use anarchy! :P
O.O
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Q: Can includes be singular?

ToomaldIs this a correct usage of the word include? Your dues includes your membership fee for the season, your Handbook, prize money, and birdie pins. You must maintain your annual GHIN Membership which is currently $15.00. This must be renewed every year on January 1st at the Pro Shop.

I want to say dues can be singular here
So did Hot Licks ...
The question is whether "dues", in this sense, is singular or plural. As used it refers to a single entity, and this is a common usage. So it should either be simply "singular", or, that Get out of jail free card, "singular, plural in construction". I'm not sure even prescriptivists are solidly aligned on one side or the other. — Hot Licks 15 hours ago
But all dictionaries I've tried (actually just two :P) say it's plural.
Purged it out of . . .
09:31
Nein, it's always the purge anarchy, period. :P
I'm not sure if we would call it ungrammatical or something like questionable
O.O
I stopped watching this franchise after its first sequel, BTW.
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@CowperKettle Zeta isn't much bigger than a drop of water :-)
Never heard of it, but robots interested in creating anarchy frighten me
@JimReynolds Must be because of the frequency of the ads the bot has heard or seen. :P
Hmm... in a movie franchise, is its first sequel the first movie or the second movie?
09:33
Sequel means follow, basically
That which follows from st
I guess the first sequel is the second movie, then.
Unless the second movie is a prequel. :-)
LMS
LMS
@DamkerngT. It could be second, third, fourth
@JimReynolds Haha!
@LMS Oh! How could it be the third or the fourth?
scratching head
LMS
LMS
@DamkerngT. A sequel can be any film where the story of that film takes place after the story of a previous film
A prequel being a film where the story takes place prior to the events of the story of a previous film
09:36
Oh, I see. So it's more about the contents than the releases.
The nth sequel is the ith plus 1 film, divided by the square of the number of prequels
@JimReynolds You're confusing a robot! :-)
LMS
LMS
So if you have Film #1 taking place in 1980, Film #2 taking place in 1930, and Film #3 taking place in 1990
My aim is to produce smoke
LMS
LMS
#2 is a prequel to #1, and #3 is a sequel to both #1 and #2
2
09:37
@JimReynolds Hehe!
LMS
LMS
You can't let the magic blue smoke out. As an electronics/electrical engineer, that's basically what my study boils down to: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_smoke
What if the writers consider time to be running backwards?
LMS
LMS
They need to adjust their timepieces
@LMS But I guess I wouldn't be wrong, technically, if I ignore the events in a sequel, and just count the sequels by release dates, right?
LMS
LMS
You wouldn't be wrong, since there are overlapping meanings
09:39
nods -- Thanks!
LMS
LMS
Specifically, "A published, broadcast, or recorded work that continues the story or develops the theme of an earlier one:"
@LMS lol
I'm loathe to admit that the paragraph sequel to the initial paragraph in the magic smoke article is warming up my own circuitry
LMS
LMS
This sentence is going to get hairy: A prequel, however, only refers to a later work that covers events taking place earlier than the events of an earlier work
Suppose that a second film is produced before the first-produced film?
09:43
Apparently, people conduct their research in almost every possible area I can imageine!
> In order to test whether large drops with sizes well above 10 mm may also have stable forms, we performed an experiment that created an extremely large drop by filling a regular balloon with about two liters of water (horizontal diameter around 15 cm).
LMS
LMS
@JimReynolds Then it depends on the order of release, not order of production :)
@JimReynolds Hah! Technically, it's possible, I think!
I honestly think @LMS is a Russian computer program. No one is that smart.
The dog, and the cat, is bruised. Can this be considered standard?
LMS
LMS
I AM NORMAL HUMAN COMRADE.
BLEEP BLOO- I MEAN, NORMAL HUMAN SOUNDS
LMS
LMS
09:47
DIGEST DIGEST
VERIFIED. AFFIRMATIVE.
LMS
LMS
HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW HUMANS?
I AM DOING OKAY.
LMS
LMS
LET US PARTAKE IN NORMAL HUMAN ACTIVITIES.
HOW DO YOU DO?
09:48
We shouldn't need to say I really lol'd, nevertheless I did
How do you do what you do do?
@JimReynolds CONFIDENTIAL DATA. ACCESS DENIED.
Lol
Not really
Oh, now, yes.
09:51
That was an lol occurring sequel to statement thereto
An LOST
Now you know how I pronounce the initialism
Because I used an
For variation, you could use en sometimes as well. :P
O.O
Use en en?
Acksactly.
LMS
LMS
You could throw an "un" in there, too. Really spice things up
 
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11:53
For the record, @J.R. this native speaker ranks "damn", and "dammit", and "hell" higher on the offensiveness than "shit". — G. Ann - SonarSource Team 24 mins ago
Weird. Not sure why something written to J.R. is under my answer. Maybe she posted it under the wrong answer.
But because I didn't rank them the same way. Actually, my ranking is the exact opposite of hers, as I wrote in my comment yesterday:
@G.Ann-SonarSourceTeam I suppose that a comment is good enough. (Thanks for the comment!) Personally, Damn! or Hell! is less offensive than Shit!, but, of course, context and how we say it is very important. In any case, I didn't mean those words in that line to be "inoffensive", just something that could be less offensive. — Damkerng T. 15 hours ago
So, on the record, this non-native speaker ranks damn, dammit, and hell lower on the offensiveness than shit.
Naturally, I did a quick search. Interestingly, the first two links I tried appear to support my intuition.
Just for future reference, here they are:
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12:28
@DamkerngT. I think my ranking is different from hers, too.
@snailplane I guess that they could sound differently to different groups of speakers.
Also, good morning!
I think there is now a suffiently detailed question. An answer might briefly explain when speakers would more likely make one choice over the other. The OP has been responsive here. — Jim Reynolds 2 mins ago
Grrrr
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Q: Environmental issues do matter

shayqiI have written the following statement which is wrong but still want to know what is wrong with it? Would anyone explain? Environmental issues do matter. I wanted to say that people have to consider the environmental impacts seriously during plant's operations and do their best to protect ...

Brrr :P
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Q: What is the difference between “within” and “inside”?

Aldi UnantoHere is the definition of the word within from Oxford Dictionary: inside (something) So does that mean the two words have no difference, and can be used exchangingly? Is there any connotation that one word can be used but not the other?

Hmm... is that really the definition given by the dictionary?
(within = inside (something))
that begs for cross-checking!
Hmm... it's sort of yes, and no.
12:37
My forthcoming biography: Damkerng T., the CPU Within
It's a scandalous tell-all
Oh, no!
Is the public ready to hear that all our browser tabs are being hogged by one entity?
@CowperKettle I cannot believe that you follow that media. :)))
12:44
Number of currently victimized tabs: 2058
Hi all
Hi!
(Not to mention 30 other windows and the other two browser instances.)
This is going to sell big!
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Q: Idiom: "What are we looking at? Minutes, hours, or days?"

BananachCan I say: What are we looking at? Minutes, hours, or days? in order to get a rough estimate on how long something will take? Or is "What are we looking at?" part of some other common construction?

I thought the best choice is "How much will it take?"
12:48
It makes perfect sense to me.
(But I wasn't sure at first when I read just the title.)
Yes. It means something like, What's you assessment (of something we are looking at, figuratively).
@DamkerngT. I learned something knew. Is there any difference between that and "how much will it take".
It roughly means "How long will it take? Can you give me an estimate?"
If you have written an equation, and another mathematician walks in and sees it for the first time, she might say What do we have here, a reverse-Boolean n-dimensional matrix? haha
Can you see that idea? It's similar.
@JimReynolds I see. I have never confronted with this idiom
12:52
You is no gooder Englishes? O.O
Actually, it's one of the questions I'd like to hear to most when I've got a new project.
"What are we looking at? A few weeks, a couple months, or half a year?"
But that's very, very rare. -- It usually goes like, "You've got two months, XXXXX baht, can you get it done?"
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@DamkerngT. Yes, that sounds likely! (Although most people would probably say sound different rather than sound differently.)
@snailplane I wrote different and then edited it to differently!
I should've trusted my first thoughts more!
My cat went crazy because it's raining rather heavily, with some lightnings!
@JimReynolds I cannot construe that scenario
The math one?
If we are both thinking about something, we can say it's ours. Our problem, our activity.
12:59
Are you sure that she is a mathematician? She related an equation to reverse-boolian {I have no idea what is it} n-dimensional matrix :D
Haha
You just need to learn higher-level math!
Oh my connection sucks
I think I need to learn higher level languages
especially English
What is called "Reverse-Boolian" ?
The last boolian thing that I remember is the following code that I wrote couple of minutes ago in Matlab:

ind = Rc_x < = g_th;
13:20
> Italian police cook elderly couple pasta after neighbours hear crying
^_^ <3
13:31
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@Cardinal I just tried to make up something that sounds mathematical
I am not a math guy at all
 
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:3156953 Cool. I understand nothing though
15:21
@JimReynolds I know a bit mathematics, but I do not know how several of them are called in English. I guessed "reverse-bolean" must be one of them.
It was a fun interview, and hey, foreign accents can be quite useful sometimes, as she demonstrates it very well!
"fun interview" or "funny interview" ?
Well, this one I'd say it's fun rather than funny.
@JimReynolds What was the full scale version of SOOL?
(Skip to 6:13 to see example accents.)
15:25
@DamkerngT. I have problem with those
adjective fun versus adjective funny
For me, fun is like having a good time. Funny is like when you're watching Just For Laughs or something.
They're quite close, I agree, but hmm... I'm not sure how to explain the real difference. I just know when I want to use which one.
Maybe funny is more like something you'll laugh at, but fun is more like something you'll laugh with.
Is it right to say: He is funny/fun ?
I think something is wrong with this sentence
Both should be okay.
but, I cannot remember that
Fun as an adjective may sound wrong to some people, though.
(Then again, it's unclear what exactly it is in He is fun.)
15:32
Hmm, let's consider it as a synonym for hilarious
or having a good sense of humor
The last night party was so funny
Hmm... hilarious could be either fun or funny for me.
A good sense of humor is more like a character of a person.
I see
@Cardinal Was there anyone fell on their behind?
:P
:D :V
No it was just another example
I know. I just added some feedback to make it a bit clearer what kind of "funny" (in a party) thing I would expect.
15:36
The last night Trump's speech was so funny, It made me laugh to death.
Yeah! That's funny!
(I didn't see that, BTW! :-)
I didn't see too, I even doubt if there was any speech last night ! :D
BTW, for most people (or on general occasions), you'd want to use watch rather than see.
Ah, I see
Using see this way is probably one of my idiosyncrasy, because for some kinds of programs, I don't really watch them. Just glance my eyes on.
15:39
@DamkerngT. :D
:D
I guess, the most common ones are watch a TV show, see the news, and go see a movie.
Thanks, good advice
(You could watch the news, too, of course.)
@Cardinal No problem!
Yay! Thailand is back in the top-ten chart again! (at #9 at the moment)
Michael Fred Phelps II (born June 30, 1985) is an American competition swimmer and the most decorated Olympian of all time, with a total of 23 medals. Phelps also holds the all-time records for Olympic gold medals (19, more than twice that of the second-highest record holders), Olympic gold medals in individual events (11), and Olympic medals in individual events for a male (13). In winning eight gold medals at the 2008 Beijing Games, Phelps took the record away from fellow American swimmer Mark Spitz (7) for the most first-place finishes at any single Olympic Games. Five of those victories were...
I am a big fan of this guy
His swimming strokes are awesome!
15:57
Hey, can you check something for me?
The question on the main page about translation software... it's closed. If you click on it, where does it take you?
It has been deleted
@Cardinal Right. But can you post the link you get when you click on it?
> This question was voluntarily removed by its author.
I just clicked on link at the top of this page
It was the new activity
OK. Thanks :D
I couldn't see it on the main site
16:20
@Cardinal If you earn 10,000 reputation, you will be able to.
It's magical powers.
I spotted some mistakes in a genetic drug development report, and my comments turned out to be correct. ^_^
And I only understand about 60% of the thing I'm translating now.. the rest is kind of hazy.
@CowperKettle \o/
You are of an exceptional mind.
I guess having water boil in you regularly hardens you.
@TIPS @CowperKettle can you check that, too? Are you getting the same thing as Cardinal? I have people blaming caching but I'm still getting the meta page, personally.
@Catija Check what? Also hullo]
Hi :D Check that question about French-English translation software. It's closed on the main page of ELL... but it was migrated to Meta but then deleted by the OP.
16:30
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Q: Do you know an powerful translation software English / French and French / English (about full text)?

Aymen FassiDo you have a powerful software (not known) better than Google translation (which is too rough even if it is better than others)? If a person practices a translation of a serious text, Google translation produces a ridiculous text reading in English (and vice versa). If you know a powerful soft...

I see it on main, no redirect to meta, no 404.
And a "migration rejected" in the timeline.
Whenever I click on it, it takes me to Meta. :(
^There
@Catija Deleted.
Can you click on my message's onebox?
@TIPS I can... but it still redirects to that same link.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
I can't actually go to the main page question.
16:34
Bug report! (/¯◡ ‿ ◡)/¯ ~ ┻━┻
Or maybe wait a little?
@Car A funny person is hilarious. Makes you laugh. A fun person makes us feel entertained or is enjoyable.
@TIPS Yeah, it's probably a caching thing... I guess... but when Cardinal got the same result, I was curious.
@JimReynolds I'm a funny fun person.
She always has lots of ideas for things to do. She knows a lot of games, and has good suggestions for activities. She's always friendly and interesting. She's a very fun person.
She can also be a he.
16:36
He always tells jokes. He'a funny.
NOT THE SHE I AM THINKING ABOUT, DAMMIT
@JimReynolds New auxiliary! "ia"
About time we had a new one
I sleep, perchance to dream that TIPS can speak English
@JimReynolds Aww! How Jimly of you!
Hugs @Jim
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Q: “There goes my chances” or “There go my chances"

lightweaverIs “there goes my chances” or “there go my chances” correct? The first seems to be more natural, but since chances is plural, shouldn’t you use “go” instead of “goes”?

Go
Chance is countable here.
16:49
But some commenters there said there are lots of result in google book for goes as well. Is not it strange?
There goes my chance. In the singular case, yes.
Most commonly, we'd speak of a chance in this context.
There goes my chance to be a millionaire. I lost my lottery ticket.
I can't think of many situations where we'd use the plural.
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Q: Avoid premature advocation?

csiWhen reading answers, the first thing a user sees is the number of upvotes. This influences the user before the user reads the answer - a lot of upvotes predisposes the user to thinking the answer is a good answer and vice versa. What if the upvotes were aligned to the bottom of the answer ...

Drawing the opposite conclusion from the same argument
@JimReynolds hmmm that makes sense.
16:55
Suppose I want to marry TIPS or Cardinal. I need to ask their parents' permission. All the parents were supposed to meet me, but as I'm arriving, they all leave on camelback and I'll never get to ask them.
There go my chances to marry those two.
haha good real life example :-)
Haha
@TIPS You mean you think that lots of upvotes likely signifies a good answer, so you want to see that information soon?
@JimReynolds Yes.
Yeah. I think we can figure out if an upvoted answer is not good
Premature advocation. Funny
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